http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm
micro nuke theory
http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm
micro nuke theory
I'm telling you guys right now. Conspiracy theories related to 9-11 will get people almost nowhere.
What people SHOULD be doing, is focusing simply on the fact that those planes were in the air way long enough for the Government to send the Air Force to check things out.
Dick Cheney gave the order for our Air Force to stand down. 5,000 people are dead because of Dick Cheney's decision. Plain and simple.
This is what people need to focus on. This is a proven fact. Dick Cheney ordered NORAD to stand down.
If the people of America would call the President and the Vice President out on this simple fact, than they would be driven out of the White House immediately.
If they sit around twittling their thumbs trying to come up with the best conspiracy theory to fit the collapse of the towers, it will solve nothing. Because Bush/Cheney won't pay unless people focus all of their attention on the facts, because once they leave office, it will be a back-seat issue anyways.
Originally posted by DeanoThe way I remember it, Building 3 collapsed didn't it?
http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htmmicro nuke theory
Originally posted by NuclearWinterAlthough I believe this, I'm still looking to debink it, no such luck yet.
I'm telling you guys right now. Conspiracy theories related to 9-11 will get people almost nowhere.What people SHOULD be doing, is focusing simply on the fact that those planes were in the air way long enough for the Government to send the Air Force to check things out.
Dick Cheney gave the order for our Air Force to stand down. 5,000 people are dead because of Dick Cheney's decision. Plain and simple.
This is what people need to focus on. This is a proven fact. Dick Cheney ordered NORAD to stand down.
If the people of America would call the President and the Vice President out on this simple fact, than they would be driven out of the White House immediately.
If they sit around twittling their thumbs trying to come up with the best conspiracy theory to fit the collapse of the towers, it will solve nothing. Because Bush/Cheney won't pay unless people focus all of their attention on the facts, because once they leave office, it will be a back-seat issue anyways.
Originally posted by Spartan005
Even though you're on my ignore list I just couldn't resist.... oh my god you are so STUPID. YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO SOURCES WHATSOEVER. You can't just say... "oh yeah I met this random guy last week and we started talking about 9/11 conspiracis all of the sudden." YOU ARE SO FULL OF SHIT.And what the hell are you talking about... "luckily he's here right now to tell me this" as your typing... in your house?
well he's not here now.I post at the library and he's not at the library now.Is it so inconceivable to you that I might possibly be telling the truth? your the stupid one,why would I make that up? sheesh.I have listed many sources besides him in the past.you have only read like maybe 10 out of like 200 posts of mine in the short time since you joined the conspiracy forum.I knew if I brought that up about my friend that some stupid kid like you would come on and say that.My experience over the Internet the last 6 years has taught me there are always Internet kid geeks out there like you who got to come on and say crap like that.
Originally posted by Mr ParkerOnly fools ask the question, "Why would someone lie?"
well he's not here now.I post at the library and he's not at the library now.Is it so inconceivable to you that I might possibly be telling the truth? your the stupid one,why would I make that up? sheesh.I have listed many sources besides him in the past.you have only read like maybe 10 out of like 200 posts of mine in the short time since you joined the conspiracy forum.I knew if I brought that up about my friend that some stupid kid like you would come on and say that.My experience over the Internet the last 6 years has taught me there are always Internet kid geeks out there like you who got to come on and say crap like that.
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
I'm telling you guys right now. Conspiracy theories related to 9-11 will get people almost nowhere.What people SHOULD be doing, is focusing simply on the fact that those planes were in the air way long enough for the Government to send the Air Force to check things out.
Dick Cheney gave the order for our Air Force to stand down. 5,000 people are dead because of Dick Cheney's decision. Plain and simple.
This is what people need to focus on. This is a proven fact. Dick Cheney ordered NORAD to stand down.
If the people of America would call the President and the Vice President out on this simple fact, than they would be driven out of the White House immediately.
If they sit around twittling their thumbs trying to come up with the best conspiracy theory to fit the collapse of the towers, it will solve nothing. Because Bush/Cheney won't pay unless people focus all of their attention on the facts, because once they leave office, it will be a back-seat issue anyways.
good point.that more than anything is proof enough that it was an inside job carried out by the government and Bush and Cheney have committed treason.Like you said,those are all proven facts and thats what the people really need to be confronting Bush and Cheney on is this.The media should be doing so as well.The proof that it wasnt all just a matter of incompetence also is that there should have been multiple firings of many people yet nobody lost their jobs.Reminds me of the kennedy assassination,same thing.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
well he's not here now.I post at the library and he's not at the library now.Is it so inconceivable to you that I might possibly be telling the truth? your the stupid one,why would I make that up? sheesh.I have listed many sources besides him in the past.you have only read like maybe 10 out of like 200 posts of mine in the short time since you joined the conspiracy forum.I knew if I brought that up about my friend that some stupid kid like you would come on and say that.My experience over the Internet the last 6 years has taught me there are always Internet kid geeks out there like you who got to come on and say crap like that.
First of all, yes it is very difficult for me to believe that your not making that up. Why would you meet some random person and somehow get on to the subject of 9/11 conspiracies? And if I came up with something like that (except with my version of events) then would you believe me? No.... you would say that I'm immature and ignorant to believe that fake US Government story. Secondly, I've only replied to 10 of your posts... that doesn't mean I haven't read other ones too. From almost all of the quotes I've read you've failed to post any relevent information and instead make fun of everyone else for having a different opinion. Finally, STOP CALLING ME A STUPID KID OR AN INTERNET GEEK. I love how immature assholes like yourself just assume these things when you don't know me at all. At least I show my damn age unlike you.
Originally posted by Spartan005
First of all, yes it is very difficult for me to believe that your not making that up. Why would you meet some random person and somehow get on to the subject of 9/11 conspiracies? And if I came up with something like that (except with my version of events) then would you believe me? No.... you would say that I'm immature and ignorant to believe that fake US Government story. Secondly, I've only replied to 10 of your posts... that doesn't mean I haven't read other ones too. From almost all of the quotes I've read you've failed to post any relevent information and instead make fun of everyone else for having a different opinion. Finally, STOP CALLING ME A STUPID KID OR AN INTERNET GEEK. I love how immature assholes like yourself just assume these things when you don't know me at all. At least I show my damn age unlike you.
stop acting like a stupid internet geek kid all the time with comments such as I got butt raped by an alien and all your other posts you have posted to me and I wont have to. 🙄 yeah that shows your true age all right.ha ha. its simple,he was at the library and he just looked over at me and said-Man the government is corrupt.Lots of people think that. 🙄 so thats when I brought up 9-11.I wouldnt have any problem believing you about that.I run into idiots like you all the time who swallow the lies and propaganda by the government that 9-11 wasnt an inside job because your so afraid of the truth so i would have no reason to say that you made that up.My sister is like you guys,an idiot as well,she swallows the lies and garbage from the media also.shes so ignorant she still thinks oswald killed kennedy.I brought up 9-11 with her once.I should have known better not to that it would just go through one ear and out the other with her since she is so ignorant about the kennedy assassination.See why would I make up that story if Im willing to say my OWN sister is ignorant like you guys because she is ALSO afraid of the truth?
your a disagrace to your fellow new yorkers who died in that tragedy for being so afraid of the truth and swallowing those lies and propaganda by the government. I cant stand Lord Xyz as a poster most the time,but recently unlike you and others, he has started conducting himself in a mature adult manner like he did on that other thread of Deanos and Im beginning to enjoy my debates with him now since he recently has been acting like an adult for a change.He was the ONLY one on there who was actually interested in the topic that Deano created instead of acting like an idiot coming on there attacking me with immature comments like others like you did.He decided to grow up recently.too bad you havent.
also you only just started posting recently in the conspiracy section so I know you were not here like 6 months ago or so when I was posting on the 9-11 thread or you would have jumped in at that point acting like a stupid fool then instead of waiting till now.Your only interested in starting flame wars.well Im done taking your bait.Im not going to play your game anymore.Maybe Deano will with you.
Originally posted by Mr ParkerYou've said that so many times.
also you only just started posting recently in the conspiracy section so I know you were not here like 6 months ago or so when I was posting on the 9-11 thread or you would have jumped in at that point acting like a stupid fool then instead of waiting till now.Your only interested in starting flame wars.well Im done taking your bait.Im not going to play your game anymore.Maybe Deano will with you.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
stop acting like a stupid internet geek kid all the time with comments such as I got butt raped by an alien and all your other posts you have posted to me and I wont have to. 🙄 yeah that shows your true age all right.ha ha. its simple,he was at the library and he just looked over at me and said-Man the government is corrupt.Lots of people think that. 🙄 so thats when I brought up 9-11.I wouldnt have any problem believing you about that.I run into idiots like you all the time who swallow the lies and propaganda by the government that 9-11 wasnt an inside job because your so afraid of the truth so i would have no reason to say that you made that up.My sister is like you guys,an idiot as well,she swallows the lies and garbage from the media also.shes so ignorant she still thinks oswald killed kennedy.I brought up 9-11 with her once.I should have known better not to that it would just go through one ear and out the other with her since she is so ignorant about the kennedy assassination.See why would I make up that story if Im willing to say my OWN sister is ignorant like you guys because she is ALSO afraid of the truth?your a disagrace to your fellow new yorkers who died in that tragedy for being so afraid of the truth and swallowing those lies and propaganda by the government. I cant stand Lord Xyz as a poster most the time,but recently unlike you and others, he has started conducting himself in a mature adult manner like he did on that other thread of Deanos and Im beginning to enjoy my debates with him now since he recently has been acting like an adult for a change.He was the ONLY one on there who was actually interested in the topic that Deano created instead of acting like an idiot coming on there attacking me with immature comments like others like you did.He decided to grow up recently.too bad you havent.
Shes not afraid of the truth. You are. You cannot accept the fact that the Death Star indeed destroyed WTC. Nor you cannot accept the fact SpiderMan films kicked ass in both critic reviews and box office. Silly liberal. Why don'tcha get raped by the godless killing machines known as 'Bears' hmmm? You have not shown proof of any of your arguments while I have. Don't believe me? Here
Doesn't it finally make sense? Only an idiot would have not believe this. Which in this case..is you.
I wonder how many people here are aware that CNN actually reported that the buildings collapsed one hour before it actually did.people can find that out by going to www.911sharethetruth.com and go to that link that says foreknowledge of wtc' collapse analysis at wtc.net
9-11: Comparing the Facts
Hey all you conspiracy theorists! I need your help.
For one of my classes at my junior college, I am required to write an essay on a worldly topic, something relevant to the world today, something that is very hotly debated.
And that just happens to be 9-11 in here, doesn't it?
I would like it if each side (the government did it vs. the terrorists did it...or whatever other sides there are...?) could present a few links that I could use for resources.
It'd be greatly appreciated, and I'd never raise another sarcastic remark against the conspiracy theorists again. Cross my heart, hope to die. 😄
-REX
Originally posted by Kinneary
http://www.911myths.com/html/progressive_collapse.html
L'Ambiance Plaza was planned to be a sixteen-story building with thirteen apartment levels topping three parking levels. It consisted of two offset rectangular towers, 63 ft by 112 ft each, connected by an elevator. Seven-inch thick posttensioned, concrete slabs and steel columns comprised its structural frame (Cuoco, 1992). Posttensioning overcomes the tensile weakness of concrete slabs by placing high strength steel wires along their length or width before the concrete is poured. After the concrete hardens, hydraulic jacks pull and anchor the wires compressing the concrete (Levy and Salvadori, 1992)...At the time of collapse, the building was a little more than halfway completed.
How exactly does an unfinished 16 story building compare to a 110 story skyscrapper with a unique design?
Even the site acknowledges that the design was different :
This building had a very different design to the WTC, of course. And it was under construction, with the cause of collapse being primarily temporary issues
Yet, the author draws this conclusion:
But nonetheless this does show a structure can undergo progressive collapse, when it no longer has the capacity to support a given load.
Problem with this is that the towers like all buildings in New York City is supposed to be able to produce floors capable of holding 5 times their maximum weight capacity. That's over five times the weight of any particular floor.So, the claim that the towers could fall on their own weight is odd.
Another example of an unfinished building:
In December 1985, a catastrophic accident occurred in Los Angeles during construction of a 21-story steel-frame building. Eighty tons of structural steel sections were stockpiled on one bay on the fifth floor, loading the bay to twice its designed capacity. Three beams failed suddenly at their temporary connections, precipitating a progressive collapse of 10 bays all the way to the ground floor. Three construction workers were killed in the accident.