Semptember the 11th

Originally posted by Katsu
Either The Laws of Physics dont apply anymore or someone is lying (the USA government).

Those buildings went down in virtual FREE FALL SPEED, you saw it, i saw it, my mother saw it, my neighbour saw it. Explosives had to been used to achieve this!

PROOF supplied by and Lenny Charles:

"NIST also ignored the observed twisting of the top 34 floors of the South Tower before it toppled down. This twisting clearly VIOLATES the conservation of both linear and angular momentum unless a large EXTERNAL FORCE caused it."

"Without an ADDITIONAL ENERGY SOURCE to blow the lower floor support structure out of the way of the falling upper mass, the OBSERVED fall speeds were UNACHIEVABLE."

PROOF supplied by Dr. Griffin:

"Dr. Griffin listed ten characteristics of the collapses which all indicate that the buildings did not fall due to being struck by PLANES or the ensuing FIRES. He explained the buildings fell suddenly without any indication of collapse. They fell straight into their own footprint at FREE-FALL speed, meeting virtually NO RESISTANCE as they fell. A PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY unless all vertical support was being progressively removed by EXPLOSIVES severing the core columns."

PROOF supplied by Architect Richard Gage, video: "How the Towers Fell"

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rW6Oez7pag0

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, PROOF supplied by Sir Isaac Newton:

"FREE FALL is a special type of motion in which the only force acting upon an object is gravity. Objects which are said to be undergoing free fall, are NOT ENCOUNTERING A SIGNIFICANT FORCE OF AIR RESISTANCE; they are falling under the sole influence of gravity. Under such conditions, all objects will fall with the same rate of acceleration, regardless of their mass."

The End.

here's the people i've cited

http://europa.la.asu.edu/greeley/biography/

http://www.me.caltech.edu/faculty/culick.html

W. Gene Corley who's online html profile can be found here

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cach...;cd=1&gl=uk

who's company can be found here

http://www.ctlgroup.com/

and who's full list of past projects can be found here

http://www.ctlgroup.com/projects/ca....asp?topic=1280

Foreman Williams

http://www.nae.edu/nae/naepub.nsf/M...BB?opendocument

David Biggs

http://www.asce.org/pressroom/news/...ss.cfm?uid=1874

Mete Sozen

https://engineering.purdue.edu/CE/P...esource_id=2260

Allyn E. Kilsheimer

http://www.almexperts.com/ExpertWit...rt/5155923.html

David Newell, VF Corp (company's plane was 1st above crash site of flight 93)

Michael K Hynes

http://member.expertpages.com/aviat...y/overview.html

infact here's pretty much everyone...please try and discredit their information on a point for point basis and show me how a theology expert is more of an authority on each issue than any of the following and their respective involvment in the 9/11 investigation

Air Crash Analysis
Cleveland Center regional air traffic control

Bill Crowley special agent, FBI

Ron Dokell president, Demolition Consultants

Richard Gazarik staff writer, Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

Yates Gladwell pilot, VF Corp.

Michael K. Hynes, Ed.D.,
ATP, CFI, A&P/IA president, Hynes Aviation Services; expert, aviation crashes

oh...and who are we to believe in regard to these issues...crockett grabbe who is an expert in space travel (although i failed to find any of his credentials anywhere online)...griffin is a Dr of theology and his research was based on someone elses research who themselves never actually conducted any research and never visited the US at all

or the people i cited..who are experts in explosives, architecture, aviation etc etc...

oh...and all of the links were valid at the initial posting but some aren't available not...apologies for that

large EXTERNAL FORCE caused it."

i'd say the impact of a plane constitutes a large external force...would you not?

this is exactly the techniques which i've highlighted in the past by conspiracy theorists...they take things in isolation "a plane couldn't cause the buildings to fall" or "the fire couldn't cause the buildings to fall"...etc etc

not to mention one of your previous posts that claims that thermite was found in the towers...i'm guessing your "evidence" for that was from the famous youtube video of the molten metal coming from the side of the building...of course the fact that this was only observed in a single non load bearing area of 1 of the buildings is completely lost on you...as is the fact the not a single trace of thermite was found in the building...as if the fact that thermite is physically impossible to have cut horizontally and only cuts vertically...and isn't an explosive anyway

for a full list of my references you can go back to page 77 (the links above also work on that page)

Funny how Parker hasn't commented on being busted for his Minoru Yamasaki comment in either this or the other thread I started. I wonder why that is?

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Funny how Parker hasn't commented on being busted for his Minoru Yamasaki comment in either this or the other thread I started. I wonder why that is?

i guess we're probably both on ignore...he has a tendency to do that after you pound his points to dust...its the internet equivelent of putting your fingers in your ears and shouting "NAH NAH NAAHHH CANT HEAR YOU CANT HEAR YOU"

Either The Laws of Physics dont apply anymore or someone is lying (the USA government).

Those buildings went down in virtual FREE FALL SPEED, you saw it, i saw it, my mother saw it, my neighbour saw it. Explosives had to been used to achieve this!

PROOF supplied by Dr. Crockett Grabbe and Lenny Charles:

"NIST also ignored the observed twisting of the top 34 floors of the South Tower before it toppled down. This twisting clearly VIOLATES the conservation of both linear and angular momentum unless a large EXTERNAL FORCE caused it."

"Without an ADDITIONAL ENERGY SOURCE to blow the lower floor support structure out of the way of the falling upper mass, the OBSERVED fall speeds were UNACHIEVABLE."

PROOF supplied by Dr. Griffin:

"Dr. Griffin listed ten characteristics of the collapses which all indicate that the buildings did not fall due to being struck by PLANES or the ensuing FIRES. He explained the buildings fell suddenly without any indication of collapse. They fell straight into their own footprint at FREE-FALL speed, meeting virtually NO RESISTANCE as they fell. A PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY unless all vertical support was being progressively removed by EXPLOSIVES severing the core columns."

PROOF supplied by Architect Richard Gage, video: "How the Towers Fell"

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rW6Oez7pag0

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, PROOF supplied by Sir Isaac Newton:

"FREE FALL is a special type of motion in which the only force acting upon an object is gravity. Objects which are said to be undergoing free fall, are NOT ENCOUNTERING A SIGNIFICANT FORCE OF AIR RESISTANCE; they are falling under the sole influence of gravity. Under such conditions, all objects will fall with the same rate of acceleration, regardless of their mass."

Originally posted by Katsu
Either The Laws of Physics dont apply anymore or someone is lying (the USA government).

Those buildings went down in virtual FREE FALL SPEED, you saw it, i saw it, my mother saw it, my neighbour saw it. Explosives had to been used to achieve this!

PROOF supplied by Dr. Crockett Grabbe and Lenny Charles:

"NIST also ignored the observed twisting of the top 34 floors of the South Tower before it toppled down. This twisting clearly VIOLATES the conservation of both linear and angular momentum unless a large EXTERNAL FORCE caused it."

"Without an ADDITIONAL ENERGY SOURCE to blow the lower floor support structure out of the way of the falling upper mass, the OBSERVED fall speeds were UNACHIEVABLE."

PROOF supplied by Dr. Griffin:

"Dr. Griffin listed ten characteristics of the collapses which all indicate that the buildings did not fall due to being struck by PLANES or the ensuing FIRES. He explained the buildings fell suddenly without any indication of collapse. They fell straight into their own footprint at FREE-FALL speed, meeting virtually NO RESISTANCE as they fell. A PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY unless all vertical support was being progressively removed by EXPLOSIVES severing the core columns."

PROOF supplied by Architect Richard Gage, video: "How the Towers Fell"

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rW6Oez7pag0

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, PROOF supplied by Sir Isaac Newton:

"FREE FALL is a special type of motion in which the only force acting upon an object is gravity. Objects which are said to be undergoing free fall, are NOT ENCOUNTERING A SIGNIFICANT FORCE OF AIR RESISTANCE; they are falling under the sole influence of gravity. Under such conditions, all objects will fall with the same rate of acceleration, regardless of their mass."

yes that's the 2nd time you've posted that (remember me saying that when a CT's theories get destroyed they wait a couple of days then post the same thing again...well that just happened)

Katsu dont bother with him.Take it from me,he's not interested in the truth.you've already proven him wrong along with the help of others but he only wants to see his own point of view and doesnt want to see the other side of the coin.he's not worth wasting your time on.Like you said so brilliantly before,to accept the ludicrise version of the 9/11 coverup commission,you got to ignore the laws of physics that scientists have gone by for ages and ages and like i said,the proof is in the pudding with the way witnesses discovered countless numbers of body parts and bones scattered all over the area.to accept the governments version that bombs didnt go off you got to all of a sudden believe that buildings for the first time in the history of mankind,can all of a sudden collapse due to fire strait down defying the laws of physics and not only that,that for the first time in mankind history,that they all of a sudden make people lose body parts everywhere and scatter bones all over the place,in the streets and rooftops due to just a mere fire collapse of a building.He ignores these kinds of facts and comes up with some kind of lame ass explanation for it.thats why ashtar and myself dont bother with him anymore.I would advise you to do the same.

Like you said,if you listen to the governments version or the apologists such as jaden,they're asking us to all of a sudden believe that the laws of physics dont apply anymore and that these people going around doing 9/11 truth movement conventions talking about how they got death threats given to them for talking about explosives going off -something they are not getting paid for,that they're making up these stories. 🙄

Originally posted by Peek
Wow Mr. Parker really said that? 😂

okay so I heard my friend wrong.I asked him about that the other day and he said that Robertson who was the lead designer, said that in the initial testimony on the towers,he later changed it for the nova series in the coming months for the NOVA special WHY THE TOWERS FELL so obvioulsy the government gave him a death threat like they did so many other witnesses.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Why, so you can focus all your arguments on it and ignore the evidence of fake videos?

No thank you, if you wanna continue living your fantasy be my guest, but I'm not gonna waste my time just feed your delusions.

Originally posted by Peek
Wow Mr. Parker really said that? 😂

As I just said,I heard my friend wrong,people make mistakes like that sometimes you know.I guessed YOU missed it earlier when jaden said it would take 80,000 people to plant explosives in the towers? 😆 😂 😆 thats a new one for me in the history of going to message boards and talking about 9/11 with the other 9/11 apologists who defend the coverup commission.all the others have at least only said a FEW thousand,NOT 80,000. 😆 if you think thats even remotely close,then you and jaden should become best friends. 😛 since you two are about the only ones that have that hilarious theory.

would take 80,000 people to plant explosives in the towers?

please quote where i said that...rather than saying that 80,000 people were employed in the towers

Originally posted by Mr Parker
see what I mean katsu.the more and more you hang around and post with him,the more and more you will see like me and CLASSIC NES has that jaden has these delusions that explosives were not planted in the towers.again thats why we dont bother with him anymore.

hahaha...yeah...that's why you put me on ignore...not before your ideas got proverbially shotgunned in the face

Originally posted by Mr Parker
As I just said,I heard my friend wrong,people make mistakes like that sometimes you know.I guessed YOU missed it earlier when jaden said it would take 80,000 people to plant explosives in the towers? 😆 😂 😆 thats a new one for me in the history of going to message boards and talking about 9/11 with the other 9/11 apologists who defend the coverup commission.all the others have at least only said a FEW thousand,NOT 80,000. 😆 if you think thats even remotely close,then you and jaden should become best friends. 😛 since you two are about the only ones that have that hilarious theory.

and for anyone who actually believes Mr Parker on this issue...here is my original post on the matter

i just try to show you how plainly idiotic your ideas are...your theories would require the 80,000 people who work in the towers to all consent and keep quiet about explosives being planted throughout the building...a job which would have taken months if not years to carry out...not to mention the videos which were supposedly evidence of explosions used to bring down the building being in non structural parts of the building

my further clarification of it when Mr Parker exhibited his uncanny ability to misquote and fail to understand english

do you not understand basic english...80,000 worked in the twin towers...its not hard to understand...thus for your "theory" to work it would require all those people to not notice any charges being set to demolish the building....what i didn't say is that it would 80,000 people to do the work...do try and understand you muppet

my even further dumbed down explanation seeing as he still insisted on being an idiot

i never actually said that did i...once again you complete and utter moron...i said...now pay attention....THERE WAS 80,000 EMPLOYED BY COMPANIES WHO HAD PREMISES IN THE WORLD TRADE CENTRE...it would take either active allowance by all these people to allow explosives experts to destroy the building....or it would need the big bad CIA to visit and ensure the silence of all those people....DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW????????

it went on like this until shortly after he called out on his lieing

but then your failure to quote me directly speaks volumes for your credibility

Originally posted by Katsu
Either The Laws of Physics dont apply anymore or someone is lying (the USA government).

Those buildings went down in virtual FREE FALL SPEED, you saw it, i saw it, my mother saw it, my neighbour saw it. Explosives had to been used to achieve this!

PROOF supplied by Dr. Crockett Grabbe and Lenny Charles:

"NIST also ignored the observed twisting of the top 34 floors of the South Tower before it toppled down. This twisting clearly VIOLATES the conservation of both linear and angular momentum unless a large EXTERNAL FORCE caused it."

"Without an ADDITIONAL ENERGY SOURCE to blow the lower floor support structure out of the way of the falling upper mass, the OBSERVED fall speeds were UNACHIEVABLE."

PROOF supplied by Dr. Griffin:

"Dr. Griffin listed ten characteristics of the collapses which all indicate that the buildings did not fall due to being struck by PLANES or the ensuing FIRES. He explained the buildings fell suddenly without any indication of collapse. They fell straight into their own footprint at FREE-FALL speed, meeting virtually NO RESISTANCE as they fell. A PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY unless all vertical support was being progressively removed by EXPLOSIVES severing the core columns."

PROOF supplied by Architect Richard Gage, video: "How the Towers Fell"

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rW6Oez7pag0

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, PROOF supplied by Sir Isaac Newton:

"FREE FALL is a special type of motion in which the only force acting upon an object is gravity. Objects which are said to be undergoing free fall, are NOT ENCOUNTERING A SIGNIFICANT FORCE OF AIR RESISTANCE; they are falling under the sole influence of gravity. Under such conditions, all objects will fall with the same rate of acceleration, regardless of their mass."

hitting bottom with an estimated speed of 200 km per hour. If it had been free fall, with no restraint, the collapse would have only taken eight seconds and would have impacted at 300 km/h

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html

People, check my posts. The proof is in there.

The Law of Physics still applies!

Dont let the blatant lies fool you.

Sir Isaac Newton was not lying to you when he came up with those laws!

Originally posted by Mr Parker
see what I mean katsu.the more and more you hang around and post with him,the more and more you will see like me and CLASSIC NES has that jaden has these delusions that explosives were not planted in the towers.again thats why we dont bother with him anymore.

Yeah, i have decided to ignore him. He obviously has never heard of Sir Isaac Newton and the Law of Physics.

All the disinfo agents, please study what Sir Isaac Newton had to say about Free Fall.

Originally posted by Katsu
Yeah, i have decided to ignore him. He obviously has never heard of Sir Isaac Newton and the Law of Physics.

All the disinfo agents, please study what Sir Isaac Newton had to say about Free Fall.

given that i just proved that the building didn't enter freefall i guess that's why you're ignoring me

i love the fact that all these theorists are putting me onit ignore...it's actually a compliment...it's blatent proof that they are unable to hold their ground in this debate as i ***** slap their idiotic ideas to the point where they simply cant answer and so hit the old ignore button....i love it

*Ahem*

I believe that has been tampered with.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
I believe that has been tampered with.

Yes, by the media, since the videos are fake.

YouTube video

Here's the actual piece:

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/911-abc-news-evan-fairbanks-interview/3622779970