Semptember the 11th

9-11 was set up and executed by The Illuminati aka Elite who control our world today.

Anyone who knows what controlled demolitions look like say it was controlled. This is backed up by demolition experts and scientists from all over the world. STEEL COLUMN BUILDINGS HAVE NEVER COLLAPSED DUE TO FIRE! NEVER!

On 9-11, 3 buildings mysteriously collapsed due to fire.......only a fool will argue with facts and proof. People think for yourself!

Tons of people in the streets and the firefighters heard bombs going off inside the building! You can check these testimonies online, tons of sites have them! Research for yourself, the media is not going to tell you the Truth!

Look, you can even see the bombs going off in this picture below!

Thomas Eagar is a professor of Materials Engineering and Engineering Systems. He thinks those buildings could never have collapsed without the use of explosives:

# Steel melts at 1500°C (2700°F).

# Jet fuel produces a maximum temperature of approximately 1000°C (1800°F) when mixed with air in perfect proportions,but this only causes steel to glow a bright red. Therefore, theories that claim the steel melted due to fire violate the laws of physics.

The Twin Towers were rigged with explosives. Or did they violate the laws of physics?!!?!

Look mom, i can fly by flapping my arms, i can violate the laws of physics! (THIS WAS SARCASM)

Ha!

How often do steel column buildings get hit with airplanes?

So far, you've just recited the Conspiracy Theorist Code by mimicking what other people have said, time and again...

The fact is often forgotten that in order for beams to collapse, they don't have to completely melt, all they need to do is become weak, and that's enough. They become weak enough to collapse at around 1500 degrees.

Indeed. The tower didn't become liquid metal, nor did it need to.

PROOF OF THE BIGGEST LIE IN MODERN HISTORY...by a scientist, PhD qualified with an Honurs degree in Engineering - specialising in materials and mechanical design & manufacturing - I teach materials & mechanical design at University level)

Jet fuel cannot melt steel. If it could, foundries would not need to use induction and arc furnaces now, would they?

In 1 atmosphere 101.3 kPa normal air pressure, there is not enough oxygen to reach 1500 degrees to 1650 degrees Celcius, the melting point of iron. When exposed to enough fuel and air for a long period of time, it is possible to get the steel red hot, but not "white hot" on the verge of melting. That is why your barbeque grills, frying pans and cooking pots made of steel do not end up rubbery and guey, like melted glue.

Another interesting fact is that there was NO PANCAKING EFFECT of WTC Twin Tower floors hitting one another, from the top down. In fact, all 3 buildings (WTC 1, 2 and 7) all collapsed at freefall speeds (as if none of the lower supporting floors below displayed any strength, all of a sudden, and in a symmetrical, simultaneous manner, where all columns and supports FAILED at the same time, to create a vertical collapse into the building's footprints... ie. no leaning over on an angle like a felled tree)... Hundreds of thousands of tons of solid concrete all became PULVERISED and converted into fine powder, even after 56 minutes after jet impacts. Scientists have detected the presence of THERMITE in steel samples from the Ground Zero WTC site. Large pools of molten metal were found in the basements, still simmering at over 600 degrees Celcius, several days and several weeks after the collapses of the WTC buildings. (Much hotter than temperatures of steel beams exposed to 250 C flames) Very large 2.0 and 2.1 magnitude earthquakes were measured by seismic monitoring labs in nearby Universities, just before those 3 buildings collapsed, very typical of controlled demolitions. Several news crews, eyewitnesses and firefighters, and even video footage, report or give evidence of multiple explosions: "bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang" occuring just a few moments before the WTC buildings collapsed.

Note that all or most of the jet fuel would have been consumed
almost immediately (in a couple of seconds, during the initial
jet fireball). Typically, the hottest temperatures that steel beams
experience in fires is around 250C to 400C (generally around
250C for cool oxygen starved fires which give off black smoke).
The jet fuel would have all been consumed in the initial explosion
when the plane hit a building, and it doesn't just "hang around",
to burn for 56 minutes. Don't forget that concrete is also fire
proof, and does not explode and convert itself into fine powder,
due to exposure to fire, especially 56 minutes of exposure to
fire. It is the concrete that holds up highrise buildings, not the
steel. Besides, the central steel core skeleton of both twin
towers DISAPPEARED, but should have been left standing
even if the floors all collapsed! They were not damaged by the
jet impacts at the lower levels, so why did all this steel collapse
right down to the ground floors? It doesn't make any sense.

If the pancaking theory of the collapse really did happen, then where are the pancakes? Where are the solid concrete floors which should be stacked one on top of each other? The WTC Twin Towers should appear much shorter, with no gaps between floors, leaving behind several levels of undamaged solid floors! So where did all that concrete go??? It all turned into fine powder which covered almost the entire area. Even if you drop a large boulder made of solid concrete from off the top of one of those twin towers (110 floors up), and let it hit the ground, it will not convert completely into fine powder, especially before even hitting the ground! All the collapse videos show horizontal puffs of demoltion squibbs (horizontal blast clouds) used to pulverise strong concrete supports several floors below the collapsing wave of falling debris, so that the building had no material to support the upper portions... this occured sequentially, all the way down both the South and North WTC towers.

Many of us have been duped and fooled by the lying mass media,
and are being led to our slaughter, to die for the war profiteers...

Remember that solid concrete cannot be pulverised and converted to fine powder because it has a tensile yield strength of about 4000 psi,
or between 27 to 42 MPa, so the only thing that can weaken all
the concrete pillars holding up all WTC 1, 2 and 7 buildings, is
explosives and thermite used to slice all the steel beems by
melting, so that all buildings could fall downwards, perfectly, in
free fall time (zero resistance from strong material below).

Also the lease owner of all 3 WTC buildings which collapsed on
September 11, Mr Larry Silverstein, himself admitted to
authorising the "pulling" or controlled demolition of Building 7,
the 47 storey skyscraper building that collapsed 6 hours after
the twin towers fell. Remember that Building 7 was not even
hit by a plane, only suffered 2 small fires, and other buildings,
like WTC 5 and 6 which were closer to the twin towers and
which suffered severe structural damage and larger fires, DID
NOT COLLAPSE! Building 7 hardly suffered any structural
damage, yet it just collapsed at freefall speed 6-7 hours after
the collapse of the twin towers!!! Did you see it on TV?

The owner, Mr Silverstein Said these EXACT WORDS about WTC Building 7, which collapsed into it's own footprint at FREE-FALL SPEEDS several hours after the twin towers collapsed, and remember that Building 7 was not hit by any plane or by any of the twin towers:

SILVERSTEIN SAID IN THE PBS "AMERICA REBUILDS" INTERVIEW:

"I remember getting a call from the fire department commander telling me that they were not sure they would be able to contain the fire; and I said, 'You know, we've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is PULL IT, and they made that decision to PULL and then we watched the building collapse."

THE ACTUAL OWNER OF THE THE TWIN TOWERS & WTC 7 ADMITTED THAT BUILDING 7 WAS DESTROYED BY PULLING THE BUILDING...

A demolition operation often takes several days, typically
over a week, to rig a building of that size full of explosives... So
HOW did they manage to rig Building 7 full of explosives within
just 5 or 6 hours after the twin towers collapsed, if the entire
area was covered in fine concrete dust, and WTC building 7 was
still burning in 2 locations? HOW could WTC 7 be "pulled" with
demolition explosives given such short notice, when it takes
over a week to rig a building like this full of explosives at the right
places?

The only answer is: WTC 7 was already pre-planted with
explosives before the jet planes hit WTC 1 and 2 (twin towers).
It comes as no surprise that scientists have found abundant
evidence of thermite on steel samples from Ground Zero, used
to slice steel rapidly so the explosives could blast away the
concrete pillars in a sequential manner, to send all buildings
falling at free-fall (accelerating) speeds.

Originally posted by Katsu
PROOF OF THE BIGGEST LIE IN MODERN HISTORY...by a scientist, PhD qualified with an Honurs degree in Engineering - specialising in materials and mechanical design & manufacturing - I teach materials & mechanical design at University level)

Jet fuel cannot melt steel. If it could, foundries would not need to use induction and arc furnaces now, would they?

In 1 atmosphere 101.3 kPa normal air pressure, there is not enough oxygen to reach 1500 degrees to 1650 degrees Celcius, the melting point of iron. When exposed to enough fuel and air for a long period of time, it is possible to get the steel red hot, but not "white hot" on the verge of melting. That is why your barbeque grills, frying pans and cooking pots made of steel do not end up rubbery and guey, like melted glue.

Another interesting fact is that there was NO PANCAKING EFFECT of WTC Twin Tower floors hitting one another, from the top down. In fact, all 3 buildings (WTC 1, 2 and 7) all collapsed at freefall speeds (as if none of the lower supporting floors below displayed any strength, all of a sudden, and in a symmetrical, simultaneous manner, where all columns and supports FAILED at the same time, to create a vertical collapse into the building's footprints... ie. no leaning over on an angle like a felled tree)... Hundreds of thousands of tons of solid concrete all became PULVERISED and converted into fine powder, even after 56 minutes after jet impacts. Scientists have detected the presence of THERMITE in steel samples from the Ground Zero WTC site. Large pools of molten metal were found in the basements, still simmering at over 600 degrees Celcius, several days and several weeks after the collapses of the WTC buildings. (Much hotter than temperatures of steel beams exposed to 250 C flames) Very large 2.0 and 2.1 magnitude earthquakes were measured by seismic monitoring labs in nearby Universities, just before those 3 buildings collapsed, very typical of controlled demolitions. Several news crews, eyewitnesses and firefighters, and even video footage, report or give evidence of multiple explosions: "bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang" occuring just a few moments before the WTC buildings collapsed.

Note that all or most of the jet fuel would have been consumed
almost immediately (in a couple of seconds, during the initial
jet fireball). Typically, the hottest temperatures that steel beams
experience in fires is around 250C to 400C (generally around
250C for cool oxygen starved fires which give off black smoke).
The jet fuel would have all been consumed in the initial explosion
when the plane hit a building, and it doesn't just "hang around",
to burn for 56 minutes. Don't forget that concrete is also fire
proof, and does not explode and convert itself into fine powder,
due to exposure to fire, especially 56 minutes of exposure to
fire. It is the concrete that holds up highrise buildings, not the
steel. Besides, the central steel core skeleton of both twin
towers DISAPPEARED, but should have been left standing
even if the floors all collapsed! They were not damaged by the
jet impacts at the lower levels, so why did all this steel collapse
right down to the ground floors? It doesn't make any sense.

If the pancaking theory of the collapse really did happen, then where are the pancakes? Where are the solid concrete floors which should be stacked one on top of each other? The WTC Twin Towers should appear much shorter, with no gaps between floors, leaving behind several levels of undamaged solid floors! So where did all that concrete go??? It all turned into fine powder which covered almost the entire area. Even if you drop a large boulder made of solid concrete from off the top of one of those twin towers (110 floors up), and let it hit the ground, it will not convert completely into fine powder, especially before even hitting the ground! All the collapse videos show horizontal puffs of demoltion squibbs (horizontal blast clouds) used to pulverise strong concrete supports several floors below the collapsing wave of falling debris, so that the building had no material to support the upper portions... this occured sequentially, all the way down both the South and North WTC towers.

Many of us have been duped and fooled by the lying mass media,
and are being led to our slaughter, to die for the war profiteers...

Remember that solid concrete cannot be pulverised and converted to fine powder because it has a tensile yield strength of about 4000 psi,
or between 27 to 42 MPa, so the only thing that can weaken all
the concrete pillars holding up all WTC 1, 2 and 7 buildings, is
explosives and thermite used to slice all the steel beems by
melting, so that all buildings could fall downwards, perfectly, in
free fall time (zero resistance from strong material below).

Also the lease owner of all 3 WTC buildings which collapsed on
September 11, Mr Larry Silverstein, himself admitted to
authorising the "pulling" or controlled demolition of Building 7,
the 47 storey skyscraper building that collapsed 6 hours after
the twin towers fell. Remember that Building 7 was not even
hit by a plane, only suffered 2 small fires, and other buildings,
like WTC 5 and 6 which were closer to the twin towers and
which suffered severe structural damage and larger fires, DID
NOT COLLAPSE! Building 7 hardly suffered any structural
damage, yet it just collapsed at freefall speed 6-7 hours after
the collapse of the twin towers!!! Did you see it on TV?

The owner, Mr Silverstein Said these EXACT WORDS about WTC Building 7, which collapsed into it's own footprint at FREE-FALL SPEEDS several hours after the twin towers collapsed, and remember that Building 7 was not hit by any plane or by any of the twin towers:

SILVERSTEIN SAID IN THE PBS "AMERICA REBUILDS" INTERVIEW:

"I remember getting a call from the fire department commander telling me that they were not sure they would be able to contain the fire; and I said, 'You know, we've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is PULL IT, and they made that decision to PULL and then we watched the building collapse."

THE ACTUAL OWNER OF THE THE TWIN TOWERS & WTC 7 ADMITTED THAT BUILDING 7 WAS DESTROYED BY PULLING THE BUILDING...

A demolition operation often takes several days, typically
over a week, to rig a building of that size full of explosives... So
HOW did they manage to rig Building 7 full of explosives within
just 5 or 6 hours after the twin towers collapsed, if the entire
area was covered in fine concrete dust, and WTC building 7 was
still burning in 2 locations? HOW could WTC 7 be "pulled" with
demolition explosives given such short notice, when it takes
over a week to rig a building like this full of explosives at the right
places?

The only answer is: WTC 7 was already pre-planted with
explosives before the jet planes hit WTC 1 and 2 (twin towers).
It comes as no surprise that scientists have found abundant
evidence of thermite on steel samples from Ground Zero, used
to slice steel rapidly so the explosives could blast away the
concrete pillars in a sequential manner, to send all buildings
falling at free-fall (accelerating) speeds.

your points have all been addressed several times with large numbers of references through the course of this thread...i suggest you have a read

@jaden

Well, than it should be clear as water.

9-11 was an inside job!

The proof speaks for itself. Tons of scientists from all over the world proved that the official version is a fraud.

The only people on this planet who still can not seem to believe it was an inside job, are the Americans. The rest of the world already knows the official story is a fraud.

When are you Americans going to accept reality as it is?

We can hereby close this topic. When are we going to put the real perpetrators in jail?

Originally posted by Katsu
@jaden

Well, than it should be clear as water.

9-11 was an inside job!

The proof speaks for itself. Tons of scientists from all over the world proved that the official version is a fraud.

The only people on this planet who still can not seem to believe it was an inside job, are the Americans. The rest of the world already knows the official story is a fraud.

When are you Americans going to accept reality as it is?

We can hereby close this topic. When are we going to put the real perpetrators in jail?

then i suggest you read through it again...

and who are you addressing your question to?

government officials are doing what they do best,

denying everything for as long as they can until everyone stops believing the lies, then come out with the truth

"i did not have sexual relations with that woman"

"i did have sexual relations with that woman"

Originally posted by Classic NES
Impossible Crash Physics:

YouTube video

YouTube video

Case Closed

Originally posted by jaden101
then i suggest you read through it again...

and who are you addressing your question to?

I have read through it and the evidence speaks for itself. Too much evidence, in fact it only an uneducated person would still not believe it after all this overwhelming evidence has been presented. We can thus conclude that you are not that smart.

Its Lies of The USA vs The Laws of Physics. Easy win for the Law of Physics! 🤣

It was an inside job!

The End.

Originally posted by Katsu
I have read through it and the evidence speaks for itself. Too much evidence, in fact it only an uneducated person would still not believe it after all this overwhelming evidence has been presented. We can thus conclude that you are not that smart.

Its Lies of The USA vs The Laws of Physics. Easy win for the Law of Physics! 🤣

It was an inside job!

The End.

haha...how did i miss this one...what laws of physics are these then?...please show your science...i have...and it pretty much trumps every spurious theory brought up since the beginning of this thread...not to mention all the quotes people have claimed were said...one stands out...Mr Parker's claim that a friend of his said he heard with his own ears...in person...that the main architect of the towers said after 9/11 that the towers should have stood...despite the fact that he'd been dead for years

i also love the fact that theorists on here have their points smashed to dust...disappear for a little while...then come back and repost the same stuff again and hope that noone will notice

Originally posted by jaden101
Mr Parker's claim that a friend of his said he heard with his own ears...in person...that the main architect of the towers said after 9/11 that the towers should have stood...despite the fact that he'd been dead for years

hysterical

Originally posted by Katsu
I have read through it and the evidence speaks for itself. Too much evidence, in fact it only an uneducated person would still not believe it after all this overwhelming evidence has been presented. We can thus conclude that you are not that smart.

Its Lies of The USA vs The Laws of Physics. Easy win for the Law of Physics! 🤣

It was an inside job!

The End.

yep.well said.funny how he always ignores facts such as human body parts and bone fragments were found all over the area by witnesses scattered everywhere in the area and some reported seeing people vaporize as well.yeah like thats going to happen just from a mere collapse of a building..something that has never happened in the history of mankind from just a mere collapse of a building. 🙄 😆 😆

or how witnesses have had death threats given to their familys for reporting explosives going off. funny also how in the initial reports,people like dan rather and other prominent newscasters were saying the collapse of these buildings are typical of controlled demolitions but you never heard them after that because they were not reporting it how they wanted them to.Plus there is also a known case where a controlled demolition expert came forward to the 9/11 commission and told them their reprt is full of lies,that those buildings could only have come down the way they did due to explosives and wanted to testify and was told by the commission to shut the hell up and was given death threates to his family if he didnt.noene of this of course is being controlled by the CIA controlled mainstream press of course. as I said before,even a former CIA director wrote a book talking about how the CIA has plants in the mainstream press and they control the mainstream news.this is coming from a FORMER CIA director. a very credible source.

like you said,to believe the governments version,that they collpased due to fire and the impact of the jet is being a fool because you thats sayin gthe laws of physics that scientisits have gone by for hundreds of years all of a sudden dont matter anymore. 🙄 so like you said,the laws of physicas win against the governments version.victory for lasw of physicas,defeat for governments version.INSIDE JOB.end of story for sure.People are getting death threats to their family for saying that explosives went off in the towers.inside job,case closed.

Originally posted by jaden101
http://www.oilempire.us/griffin.html

wow...look at this...even other truth activists ridicule griffin's claims and point out that some of his opinions he referenced neo-nazi holocause deniers....and printed it in a jewish magazine...clearly a credible source of information

see this is why your not worth my time anymore.I read through this post of yours because I knew your last post would be addressing the issue of david ray griffith asking to see a VIDEO pf griffith being allowed to defend himself against the people saying he doesnt know what he is talking about,a reasonable request.as I knew,you just posted an INTERNET LINK something you criticised me for ealier,listenting to the internet yet thats what YOUR doing,what a hypocrite you are.thanks for showing your talking out of the thing that you use to sit down on. 😆 you dont have that video with griffit there to defend himself like I knew you wouldnt,therefore you got no case.thanks for proving you didn what I knew you would do,post an INTERNET LINK which you criticised ME for earlier to not take what the NET says seriously,Again thansk for showing what a hypocrite you are and why no one should take you seriously.

Wow Mr. Parker really said that? 😂

Originally posted by Mr Parker
see this is why your not worth my time anymore.I read through this post of yours because I knew your last post would be addressing the issue of david ray griffith asking to see a VIDEO pf griffith being allowed to defend himself against the people saying he doesnt know what he is talking about,a reasonable request.as I knew,you just posted an INTERNET LINK something you criticised me for ealier,listenting to the internet yet thats what YOUR doing,what a hypocrite you are.thanks for showing your talking out of the thing that you use to sit down on. 😆 you dont have that video with griffit there to defend himself like I knew you wouldnt,therefore you got no case.thanks for proving you didn what I knew you would do,post an INTERNET LINK which you criticised ME for earlier to not take what the NET says seriously,Again thansk for showing what a hypocrite you are and why no one should take you seriously.

everything you say about anything to do with this subject can be questioned due to the fact you blatently lie and make things up

oh and one more thing,I noticed in my glance there you meniton Minoro Yamasaki,he said in the initial first few days after 9/11-Im sure they got to him later to get him to change his testimony,the 9/11 cover up commission follows the same pattern of coverups and lies in the jfk assassination,he said PUBLICLY-I know because a friend of mine who researchs this thing even much more that I do was there and he heard it with his own ears on the news INITITALLY that Yamasaki was saying the towers should have stood. Leslie Roberton the main engineer ALSO said they could sustain multiple hits from airliners.he later changed his testimony after 9/11 so obviously they got to him like they did with yamasaki,but you dont want to find that truth out so its really a waste of my time bothering with you apologists/coincidence theorists,YOU especially with your bible length hours on end posts.

remember that? ^

exactly

you clearly just make things up in your own little head...i called you on it and you put me on ignore because you couldn't answer any of my points

i have no need to further answer your points as i've already done so several times from several credible sources...i even recommended that you read the 100 page document (seeing as you've read countless others i would've thought this would've been a reasonable request) but given that you moan about my posts it seems its not the length of text that bothers you but the content...if you dont agree with it you dont read it...am i right?

well how can you counter something if you dont read it?...exactly...you cant...i read all of your points...i researched them and i countered them thouroughly....the you left with your tail between your legs

then you return with nothing but gibberish and insults harping on about a video that if your clearly so interested in you would have looked for it yourself...i have no need to cause i've already countered every point you've made

like you said,to believe the governments version,that they collpased due to fire and the impact of the jet is being a fool because you thats sayin gthe laws of physics that scientisits have gone by for hundreds of years all of a sudden dont matter anymore. roll eyes (sarcastic) so like you said,the laws of physicas win against the governments version.victory for lasw of physicas,defeat for governments version.INSIDE JOB.end of story for sure.People are getting death threats to their family for saying that explosives went off in the towers.inside job,case closed.

hahaha...gold...what laws of physics are these then?

i distinctly remember talking about the laws of physics regarding mass and speed and energy and you claimed i was talking rubbish...then i quoted one of the engineers who you tried to use as backing up your claims...who actually quoted the same law i did in his interview regarding the collapse of the WTC...and what did you do?...that's right...talked shit as per

yep.well said.funny how he always ignores facts such as human body parts and bone fragments were found all over the area by witnesses scattered everywhere

now you're contradicting someone you're trying to agree with cause Katsu tried to claim no pieces of the plane or bodies were found at all...to which i also proved him completely and utterly wrong by posting photographic and testimonial evidence

Either The Laws of Physics dont apply anymore or someone is lying (the USA government).

Those buildings went down in virtual FREE FALL SPEED, you saw it, i saw it, my mother saw it, my neighbour saw it. Explosives had to been used to achieve this!

PROOF supplied by Dr. Crockett Grabbe and Lenny Charles:

"NIST also ignored the observed twisting of the top 34 floors of the South Tower before it toppled down. This twisting clearly VIOLATES the conservation of both linear and angular momentum unless a large EXTERNAL FORCE caused it."

"Without an ADDITIONAL ENERGY SOURCE to blow the lower floor support structure out of the way of the falling upper mass, the OBSERVED fall speeds were UNACHIEVABLE."

PROOF supplied by Dr. Griffin:

"Dr. Griffin listed ten characteristics of the collapses which all indicate that the buildings did not fall due to being struck by PLANES or the ensuing FIRES. He explained the buildings fell suddenly without any indication of collapse. They fell straight into their own footprint at FREE-FALL speed, meeting virtually NO RESISTANCE as they fell. A PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY unless all vertical support was being progressively removed by EXPLOSIVES severing the core columns."

PROOF supplied by Architect Richard Gage, video: "How the Towers Fell"

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rW6Oez7pag0

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, PROOF supplied by Sir Isaac Newton:

"FREE FALL is a special type of motion in which the only force acting upon an object is gravity. Objects which are said to be undergoing free fall, are NOT ENCOUNTERING A SIGNIFICANT FORCE OF AIR RESISTANCE; they are falling under the sole influence of gravity. Under such conditions, all objects will fall with the same rate of acceleration, regardless of their mass."

The End.