Semptember the 11th

Originally posted by mentalguy
That Rapt guy has been proven to be a fraud. The closest thing to an actual fire he has been to was watching one on TV.

I still refuse to beleve that you are stupid enough to discard firefighter's qoutes on what happened and what can happen when a plane hits a building. I was a firefigher for 2 years before i joined the millitary and I have had experiance with firefighting and I was an on-site EMT during many structural demolitions.

Originally posted by mentalguy
So, you are saying what I saw never really happend? It pisses me off that people go around saying that it never happend, while I'm in Afganistan fighting along side those who have lost someone when the towers fell. I was in New York the day the planes hit, and to deny that it happend is ludacris. It show a lack of intellectual ability and I do not think you should be allowed to breed.

I was thinking you were a NEW poster who hadnt come on here and posted yet is the only reason I bothered with you yet but I see I am mistaken.This says it all about you right here.Classic Necs never said it didnt happen, 🙄 He just pointed out in his videos proof that the films that day were altered for some unknown reason.read through ALL of his last several posts instead of just selectively seeing what you want to see the way lord xyz and jaden do and you'll see the films showing there was a plane that came from the left side of the north tower that day and struck the north tower and ANOTHER one that came from the right side that day that struck it as well.Obviously ONE of those films is fake and has been altered for some reason we dont know the answers to,you know as well as i do.TWO jet airliners did not strike the same tower that day which is what these videos posted say they did.If you know anything about the kennedy assassination you would know that the zapruder film has been altered-thats been a proven fact,that being said,its not at all unbelieveble to see the proof here which classic necs posted,that they altered one of the films for some reason.you obviously dont pay attention because he NEVER said it didnt happen.dont know how anybody could be stupid enough to think thats what he said which this post proves thats what YOU thought. 😆 all the more why you cant be taken seriously and why people like bicnarok and classic necs dont. 😆

Originally posted by Classic NES
No, I'm saying the video's are fake. I find it funny that people's only excuse to ignore evidence are logic fallacy's. In this case an obvious Straw man.

Never mentioned nothing about the event not happening.

this post says it all about you.He NEVER said it didnt happen in his posts yet thats what you posted.All he ever said was one of these videos the government released is obviously fake.I knew thats what he was saying from the very beginning yet somehow YOU didnt. 😆 😆 There goes your credibility right there.like i said,you can post all that disinformation crap you like from that B.S site,all those 47 videos from that link I gave you debunk all that crap and the official 9/11 coverup fairy tale commission. you have two choices,be a patriot and spread the news to people to look at that link and watch all those videos that debunk all that crap you posted,or continue to accept the lies and proaganda from crap like that site you posted and popular mechanics.I choose to be a patriot and spread the truth to people and post that link which shows the truth bubba.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Oh don´t give us all this "while I'm in Afganistan fighting along side those who have lost someone when the towers fell." waffle. You joined the military it was your choice so don´t moan.

Of course the towers were hit, I think there were enough witness´s and the TV coverage couldn´t have been that well special effected. One question is what hit them and IMO there are two possible answers modified Boeing, real Boeing as reported.

Of course the big major questions are why it happened and who did it, there are too many coincidences.

#The USA and Allied (UK) secret services are the best there is, and anyone who has worked with them know that some of the technology at hand is beyond what is available in the normal civilian world. this scale of attack couldn´t have happened without them knowing.

# Noraid was stood down, on that one day🙂

# certain politicians & leaders were warned not to fly that day.

# The pilots training wouldn´t have sufficed to enable them to make such accurate flying.

# Bush´s popularity was was a ball on a mountain, diving big style. A war would do that gooood, after all NO leader was ever thrown out by election during a war.

theres numerous other "coincidences"

*“Coincidence is the word we use when we can't see the levers and pulleys.”*

Like Bicnarok said,theres too many coincidences.if you accept the governments version that bombs didnt go off,your a coincidence theorist.

Have any of you disbelievers read any of the 500 testimonies i have posted? Firefighters, paramedics and other people who were in or near the buildings heard explosions going off.

500 people who were there VS anonymous guy on internetforum.......

You lose i say, but hey guess im the weirdo here 😉

Originally posted by Katsu
Have any of you disbelievers read any of the 500 testimonies i have posted? Firefighters, paramedics and other people who were in or near the buildings heard explosions going off.

500 people who were there VS anonymous guy on internetforum.......

You lose i say, but hey guess im the weirdo here 😉

i addressed them a while ago...more to the point...did you read them?...cause the vast majority of them dont mention anything about explosions...never mind explosives....which are not interchangable as not all explosions are made by explosives

most use terms such as "like an explosion"...etc etc

what it doesn't have is the direct question to those 500 people "do you believe explosives were used to bring down the towers?"

until they say yes to that then taking single comments with similes out of context of their interviews is completely and utterly idiotic

and once again...i think you know it

@jaden, What are you trying to say? Even if it was only 1 witness claiming he/she heard explosions going off that should be more than enough to re-open investigation. Theres more than 500 of them..........

Ask yourself why no other countries were allowed to research into this? They lost lives on that day too. Why were all the WTC leftovers immediately shipped to China? Why ohhhhhh Why?

If the official version is true, why would it be a problem to let other countries do their own research? Suspicious........

Originally posted by Mr Parker
read through ALL of his last several posts instead of just selectively seeing what you want to see the way lord xyz and jaden do and you'll see the films showing there was a plane that came from the left side of the north tower that day and struck the north tower and ANOTHER one that came from the right side that day that struck it as well.

Originally posted by jaden101
i addressed them a while ago...more to the point...did you read them?...cause the vast majority of them dont mention anything about explosions...never mind explosives....which are not interchangable as not all explosions are made by explosives

most use terms such as "like an explosion"...etc etc

what it doesn't have is the direct question to those 500 people "do you believe explosives were used to bring down the towers?"

until they say yes to that then taking single comments with similes out of context of their interviews is completely and utterly idiotic

and once again...i think you know it

Originally posted by Katsu
@jaden, What are you trying to say? Even if it was only 1 witness claiming he/she heard explosions going off that should be more than enough to re-open investigation. Theres more than 500 of them..........

Ask yourself why no other countries were allowed to research into this? They lost lives on that day too. Why were all the WTC leftovers immediately shipped to China? Why ohhhhhh Why?

If the official version is true, why would it be a problem to let other countries do their own research? Suspicious........

once again you're entirely missing the point...yes there were explosions...of course there were....planes flew into buildings...the buildings will have had in them pressurised containers and things such as hydraulic equipment for the lifts and many of the utilities....there would have been electrical generators and things of that nature

what people saying they heard explosions doesn't mean is that there were explosives...and of the quotes you posted any that mention the word "explosIVES" do so in the context of "it sounded LIKE"...not "there were explosives"

as for why the WTC "leftovers" were immediately shipped to China...thats just a blatent lie...almost all the wreckage was shipped to a Jersey city scrap yard and was investigated by independantly funded people such as Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl...it was also thouroughly checked for DNA evidence in order to identify the remains of victims

THE FLIGHT 93 FRAUD- Smoking Gun Evidence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-59kouBgO_s

Deano Deano,WHY did you have to bring this thread back to the top again? especially since besides yourself,the only ones that post in the conspiracy forum regularly who can think for themselves and outside the box on this issue are me and Katsu and were pretty much done with this thread?

Originally posted by Deano
THE FLIGHT 93 FRAUD- Smoking Gun Evidence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-59kouBgO_s

the most idiotic and pointless video ever...most plane crashes occur when someone at the controls is attempting to keep speed low and plane level...this didn't occur with flight 93

i also love the "i'm no scientist"...well then the guy needs to STFU and leave it to people who have a clue what they're talking about

the only ones that post in the conspiracy forum regularly who can think for themselves and outside the box on this issue are me and Katsu and were pretty much done with this thread?

Parker's idiocy once again...at its finest

peoples opinions will vary on the video

and the 9/11 debate will never be over parker.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
the only ones that post in the conspiracy forum regularly who can think for themselves and outside the box on this issue are me and Katsu

Originally posted by Deano

and the 9/11 debate will never be over parker.

lets not delude ourselves in thinking there's some kind of debate...there's the facts...and then there's conspiracy theorist nonsense

Parker, I think you should just stop trying, not on here, but at life in general.

Originally posted by Deano
THE FLIGHT 93 FRAUD- Smoking Gun Evidence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-59kouBgO_s

Originally posted by Magee
Parker has mental disability = confirmed.

no thats WHAT you and those other people I described have. 🙄

Originally posted by Deano
peoples opinions will vary on the video

and the 9/11 debate will never be over parker.

true,but the thing,as you can see, its the same old posters posting here ,its never anybody new coming here to post, so its really not worth the effort.and as you know from experience,they wont even bother to watch the videos,or if they do,will come up with some lame excuse to avoid admitting it that it was an inside job.so its really not worth the effort.

and thats true about the 9/11 debate.I just wish that people who like to talk as much about 9/11 would post as much about kennedy.Its every bit as important.They shouldnt have the idea that just because it was so much longer ago than 9/11 that its not just as much as important today as 9/11 is. 🙁 oh well,at least I get to see a lot of people from all over the world who share my same interest in it, at the yearly november in dallas conferences they have down there year.so i at least have that to fall on.