Originally posted by Soujaboyno regular thor gets k.o by Surfer mini Blasts 🙂
The same Thor that holds back as frequently that he appears in comics?
The same Thor that fought The Stranger one on one?
The same Thor that had Galactus running for his life?
The same Thor that defeated Ego the living Planet?According to his best showings, ah Yes.
Your trying to create a argument with no proof.
not only that in all of Thor/ SS working together ...... A weak SS did more damage to his oppenent than Thor.
Originally posted by kgkg
no regular thor gets k.o by Surfer mini Blasts 🙂not only that in all of Thor/ SS working together ...... A weak SS did more damage to his oppenent than Thor.
Doesn't change the fact that there isn't any proof supporting the claim that Thor was more powerful in the blood and Reign arc.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Doesn't change the fact that there isn't any proof supporting the claim that Thor was more powerful in the blood and Reign arc.
and beacause in his normal showing.......... SS had to save his ass .... like 10 times 🙂
Alright I have an argument as to why Majestic would defeat SS.
First being, Silver Surfer has never shown to be able to move thousands of times faster then the speed of light in combat, and he has never been shown to be able to use his speed in combat such as punching thousands of times in a second. The only time he has shown to use his *vast speed* is in travel or dashing in a straight line.
P.S. Surfer has shown multiple times in the past, that when under pressure and moving at tremendous speeds he tends to get nervous and his accuracy tends to suffer (missing the IG)
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Second, Majestic has shown to be able to move thousands of times the speed of light in COMBAT.
Which puts him somewhere around a few thousand times faster than light.
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Here he uses it in combat
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Third, Majestic has planet shattering strength so his punches will hurt Silver Surfer. Thanos has shown to KO Silver Surfer with punches and Thanos strength is no where near as strong as Majestics.
P.S. Thanos has defeated SS in h2h/close combat, Majestic dwarfs and out classes Thanos in this field by leaps and bounds, thus if Thanos can out speed and out power SS, Majestic can do it 100 fold. Thanos may use Tech, but Majestic has shown to have extremely high tier tech, including his sword, teliporters, image projectors, etc.
^Majestic strength was so strong that he had to create special gauntlets that he would use when moving a planet because other wise it would shatter.
http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system043ke.jpg
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Fourth, durability on Majestic part may not be as tough as SS well majestic is in his base form, but majestic has shown to be able to change his matter to be able to become much much more durable. Majestic doesn't need to be as durable as SS, only durable enough to knock him off his board (this is explained later)
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As for what Majestic will do to defeat Silver Surfer, Majestic will speed blitz SS in combat and knock him off his board with his superior strength, once SS is off his board SS is a floating brick in terms of speed, Majestic then pummels SS to death.
First SS without his board cannot fly or move in space and has no super speed.
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Second if SS trys to summon his board back to him, Majestic will use his far superior combat speed and agility and H2H/close range fighting to pummel SS away from his board, while moving at thousands of times the speed of light thus effectively keeping SS board from him.
SS has lost his board and summoned it back to him before, but it is no where near instantanious, it takes time seconds, all of which will cost SS the match, this scan shows that SS cannot instantaniously summon/recover his board.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Surfernotflying22.jpg
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Majestic could also use his magic to do this to SS, and once SS is off his board even for a second, Majestic moves at thousands of times the speed of light while SS is moving at the speed of a falling brick, to pummel SS away from his board (not in a straight line obviously thats where SS speed lies, but rather in circles, turnes, up down, etc.)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7078117
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Not only can Majestic go for knocking SS off his board with Majestic superior combat speed, agility and h2h/close combat skill, but he could use his matter/reality manipulation to do this to SS board
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/SurferandStranger-1.jpg
When has Majestic shown to be able to manipulate matter, time, space, and reality on a grand scale? In these scans of course!
He is turned to stone, and then in the next page he is back to normal by his own powers
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Another Example of Majestic manipulating mass matter is in this scan...Performs a bit of magic/reality altering and....
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http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system175lv.jpg
Voila. Binary star.
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Here Majestic manipulates time dust (manipulates time) then moving at thousands of times the speed of light ( while in combat ) he gets rid of it, and then returns to apprehend the badguy.
Inhales time dust:
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Wakes up with Saturn in the background, flies under the rings to get back to Earth, meaning he flew past it.
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Returning in mid-rant to apprehend the badguy:
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So as you can see Majestic can indeed defeat SS and I dare argue that he could take the majority. Majestic just needs to fight intelligently, which he often does as shown here ^_^
Majestic and crew are being attacked by the building itself. After scanning on a molecular level, Maj decides he needs to go build some shit. In the VERY NEXT PAGE, he's back. He's researched and built (twice, since he had to change the plans) a brand new piece of technology almost instantly. Note how he describes the time spent in nanoseconds and thousandths of a second.
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Majestic has NEVER shattered planets to my recollection. Never.
He's pushed them, but this planet shattering you speak of doesn't exist.
And Surfer has flown through stars and blackholes.
The only way Majestic can win this, is if Surfer doesn't know he's in a fight.
His highend trumps Majestics. A by a fair bit.
Did you skip my entire argument! I posted detail by detail how Majestic would win, Ive explained enough I'm done. Im convinced Majestic could defeat SS the way I explained.
P.S. majestic does have planet shattering strength, read his solo series, its when an object is coming towards the solar system that would mean destruction, so he designs and builds special gauntlets to move the planet, because without them he would shatter the planet as he moves it.
Originally posted by Jesse7
Did you skip my entire argument! I posted detail by detail how Majestic would win, Ive explained enough I'm done. Im convinced Majestic could defeat SS the way I explained.P.S. majestic does have planet shattering strength, read his solo series, its when an object is coming towards the solar system that would mean destruction, so he designs and builds special gauntlets to move the planet, because without them he would shatter the planet as he moves it.
pinch
Go easy on him, Uni. jockey
Originally posted by Jesse7
Did you skip my entire argument! I posted detail by detail how Majestic would win, Ive explained enough I'm done. Im convinced Majestic could defeat SS the way I explained.P.S. majestic does have planet shattering strength, read his solo series, its when an object is coming towards the solar system that would mean destruction, so he designs and builds special gauntlets to move the planet, because without them he would shatter the planet as he moves it.
Idiot. He wore the gloves so that when he pushed against the planet, he wouldn't fly through it and break it apart.
That would happen if any durable brick was tossed at the planet at high speeds. Let Mangog throw colossus at the earth from space.
Colossus would probably break the planet apart.
Does that mean he has planet busting strength?
Either way, the planet busting means little when Surfer is faster than the guy.
Speedblitz only works when theirs a speed advantage.
Not disadvantage.
Majestic doesn't touch Surfer, if Surfer doesn't want him to.
Thats the flaw in your argument.
Majestic is apparently moving at the speed of light, while Surfer stands still like a douche.
Surfer is faster than Majestic.
Surfer is much more durable than Majestic.
Surfer has higher energy output Majestic.
How does Majestic win in your scenario??
Oh yeah, a guy quite a bit faster than him will stand there and let him beat on him.
Not happening.
Isnt the current Majestic supposed to be dying of chronal radiation cause of time/dimensional hopping, obviously his not immune to most energies + nerve pinches. SS does not have this weakness when time/dimension hopping, with his abilities to control forms of energy, I think he could very much defeat Majestric.
The whole argument was, and I provided scans for it, Surfer only has his speed while on his board.
SECONDLY, surfer has NEVER shown on panel to have thousands of times the speed of light speed IN BATTLE.
Now do you see why Majestic just has to knock him off his board, as so many have, which I posted SCANS showing, then surfer has no speed.
THIRDLY, Thanos KO'ED surfer with punches, Majestic is far stronger then thanos, and without ss board, Majestic could KO or KILL SS
Originally posted by Rols
Isnt the current Majestic supposed to be dying of chronal radiation cause of time/dimensional hopping, obviously his not immune to most energies + nerve pinches. SS does not have this weakness when time/dimension hopping, with his abilities to control forms of energy, I think he could very much defeat Majestric.