Silver Surfer Vs Majestic

Originally posted by Jesse7
The whole argument was, and I provided scans for it, Surfer only has his speed while on his board.

SECONDLY, surfer has NEVER shown on panel to have thousands of times the speed of light speed IN BATTLE.

Now do you see why Majestic just has to knock him off his board, as so many have, which I posted SCANS showing, then surfer has no speed.

THIRDLY, Thanos KO'ED surfer with punches, Majestic is far stronger then thanos, and without ss board, Majestic could KO or KILL SS

Originally posted by Jesse7
The whole argument was, and I provided scans for it, Surfer only has his speed while on his board.

SECONDLY, surfer has NEVER shown on panel to have thousands of times the speed of light speed IN BATTLE.

Now do you see why Majestic just has to knock him off his board, as so many have, which I posted SCANS showing, then surfer has no speed.

THIRDLY, Thanos KO'ED surfer with punches, Majestic is far stronger then thanos, and without ss board, Majestic could KO or KILL SS

But what you don't seem to understand, is that as soon as the bell rings, Surfer is gone.
He's easily maneuvarble on that board, to dodge majestic.

And Majestic hasn't the speed to catch up.

Your whole argument is based on Surfer being touched.
Majestic isn't fast enough to touch Surfer.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Meanwhile, Surfer is fast enough to touch Majestic.
He's got enough power to fry Majestic.
And he's durable enough to not even blink at planetary explosions.

There goes the planet busting speedblitz theory down the drain.

I wonder how many people arguing for or against Majestic have actually read his books?

Originally posted by Validus
I wonder how many people arguing for or against Majestic have actually read his books?

That a dig at me Vally??

Sure you wanna do that?

Cuz i'll have you know......................

I believe Majestic has the speed/reflexes to contend with Surfer. Sure, he wouldn't win any races but in H2H it would be a whole different story.

When it comes to strength, I also see Maj as having an advantage.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure how Maj would do against him when it comes to durability.

I'm not sure which way to vote on this one as of yet.

Originally posted by UniOmni
That a dig at me Vally??

Sure you wanna do that?

Cuz i'll have you know......................

Majestic is stronger than baseline Surfer. Easy.
Faster?? Wouldn't say that on his best day.

Durability?? Significantly less than.
Energy output?? A bit less than as well.

I've seen Majestic hurt, by alot less than what Surfer is capable of putting out.

And i see what you mean Vally.

When i see Majestic compared to PC Superman, its kinda funny. Cuz if they read his books, they'd see that he's an interesting character on his own.
And i actually hate that in everything he's compared to Superman.

I've enjoyed his latest books a lot more than i have Supermans.

There's an epic scope and feel to his stories that imo are lacking from alot of the other big heroes. Plus i love the art.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Majestic is stronger than baseline Surfer. Easy.
Faster?? Wouldn't say that on his best day.

Durability?? Significantly less than.
Energy output?? A bit less than as well.

I've seen Majestic hurt, by alot less than what Surfer is capable of putting out.

Originally posted by Validus
We've seen Surfer hurt by far less than Majestic too. Brick to the head from Karnak ring any bells? It sure as hell rung Norrin's bell.

For that one, i'm going to make a thread with Kyle vs Deathstroke...............In hand to hand.

I take no prisoners

Uni Omni, as Avalon pointed out earlier, Majestic has the speed to combat SS in h2h, Majestic isnt faster in a race, but im combat SS has poor showings for speed.

If ss can speed blitz anyone in combat at the start, then why does Thanos punk SS in h2h every battle? Thanos is no where near as fast as Majestic.

If SS is so fast in battle, then why can Thor knock his block off? Thor is not thousands of times the speed of light as Majestic is.

As for the durability point, I posted a scan that Majestic can change his matter to become much more durable.

Majestic is not faster then SS that is true, but their speed is in the same level, and in terms of combat speed and agility Majestic far surpasses surfer. Surfer has poor showings for combat speed and
agility.

Majestic has the speed to keep up with Surfer in a battle, Surfer is fast but hes not going to be running circles around Majestic, so your point about Majestic not being able to touch SS is null.

Majestic is far stronger then surfer, and as for energy output I agree hes not as strong, but hes close to SS level, and he doesnt need to surpass SS in energy output, he just needs to knock him off his board and pummel him into submission.

You can claim SS will speed blitz Majestic at the start of the battle all you want, but untill you show scans of SS speed blitzing some one who can move thousands of times the speed of light, and he isn't able to lay a finger on SS as you claim, then your claim is null and void. Well on the other hand I CAN post scans of SS being punked and pummeled in h2h and close quarter combat, as well as posting MANY scans of SS getting beaten down by people FAR slower then Majestic.

Silver Surfer has shown countless times to be weak to magic and mystical powers, Majestic has mystical/magic powers, which I have posted scans of him using already on a grand scale of him turning a star into a binary sun, its the scan after he manipulates his matter to become much more durable to go through the cores of stars.

A good example of this is when Dracula punked SS, where was SS speed there? This example also shows how weak SS is to magic and mystical powers.

Majestic did slap around the ole Eradicator there for awhile.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Uni Omni, as Avalon pointed out earlier, Majestic has the speed to combat SS in h2h, Majestic isnt faster in a race, but im combat SS has poor showings for speed.

If ss can speed blitz anyone in combat at the start, then why does Thanos punk SS in h2h every battle? Thanos is no where near as fast as Majestic.

If SS is so fast in battle, then why can Thor knock his block off? Thor is not thousands of times the speed of light as Majestic is.

As for the durability point, I posted a scan that Majestic can change his matter to become much more durable.

Majestic is not faster then SS that is true, but their speed is in the same level, and in terms of combat speed and agility Majestic far surpasses surfer. Surfer has poor showings for combat speed and
agility.

Majestic has the speed to keep up with Surfer in a battle, Surfer is fast but hes not going to be running circles around Majestic, so your point about Majestic not being able to touch SS is null.

Majestic is far stronger then surfer, and as for energy output I agree hes not as strong, but hes close to SS level, and he doesnt need to surpass SS in energy output, he just needs to knock him off his board and pummel him into submission.

You can claim SS will speed blitz Majestic at the start of the battle all you want, but untill you show scans of SS speed blitzing some one who can move thousands of times the speed of light, and he isn't able to lay a finger on SS as you claim, then your claim is null and void. Well on the other hand I CAN post scans of SS being punked and pummeled in h2h and close quarter combat, as well as posting MANY scans of getting beaten down by people FAR slower then Majestic.

Silver Surfer has shown countless times to be weak to magic and mystical powers, Majestic has mystical/magic powers, which I have posted scans of him using already on a grand scale of him turning a star into a binary sun, its the scan after he manipulates his matter to become much more durable to go through the cores of stars.

Firstly.

Why does Darkseid hit Superman? Why does anybody??
For the sake of the plot.

I never said Surfer is going to speedblitz Majestros.

I only said, that he can fly circles around him. Thats the truth.

At the starting bell, Surfer can and will take off, faster than Majestic can keep up.
He can easily fly and shoot and win the battle that way. Its his mo.

Do you wanna know when combat speed matters??
When the opponent either has none, or to such a small degree in comparison that its null.

Surfer is way beyond Majestic in speed.

His average durability is significantly beyond him as well.

And Majestic doesn't have magical powers.

Nor reality manipulation. He can build items, though that do.

You can call it PIS CIS all you want, but untill you show me scans of SS speed blitzing some one who can move thousands of times the speed of light IN COMBAT, then your claims have no ground.

While I on the other hand have posted scans of MAjestic of being able to do this, SS is not going to dance circles around majestic.

Want to know why? Because through SS entire comic history he has been tagged, KO'ed, beaten down, and killed (by the red bugs during abraxas arc) by people FAR slower then Majestic and SS.

Secondly Majestic does have vast matter manipulation did you not look at the scans I posted shall I post them again?

THIRDLY majestic does have mystical powers, ill post the scans in a momment.

FOURTHLY SS durability as pointed out by Validius is not this all powerful durability as you make it sound, SS has been KO'ed by punches, he has been hurt by a knife, he has been hurt by Thor. SS can be beaten by brute force, Thor has done it before, Thanos has done it many times, runner has done it too, the stranger has.

Even in a fight, it doesn't take much to fly in a straight line and blitz somebody. I highly doubt Surfer is going to try to take Majestic in a pure slug-fest.

Originally posted by Jesse7
You call it PIS CIS all you want, but untill you show me scans of SS speed blitzing some one who can move thousands of times the speed of light IN COMBAT, then your claims have no ground.

While I on the other hand have posted scans of MAjestic of being able to do this, SS is not going to dance circles around majestic.

Want to know why? Because through SS entire comic history he has been tagged, KO'ed, beaten down, and killed (by the red bugs during abraxas arc) by people FAR slower then Majestic and SS.

As has Superman. And Majestic as well.

Flash was gutted last year by Deathstroke..............Deathstroke!

And Flash is the premier speedster.

So why do you single out Surfer for it, when every fast character has in the past?

And why do you keep bringing up speedblitzing??

I never said Surfer would speedblitz.

All i said, was that Surfer is more than fast enough to render such a thing moot.

Do you go by the name of JellyRobes on another board??

Cuz you sure aren't reading what i'm posting.

Your whole case rests on Majestic punching Surfer.

But when Surfer is past Majestic at the starting bell, he won't be able to keep up.

Thats the flaw in your case.

Its all dependent on Majestic touching what he can't touch.

And i know Surfer has been hurt by brute force.

Never said he hasn't.

But how is Majestic going to touch him??

And Thor and the knife that cut him, are both steeped in magic.

Its well known that Surfer as a creature of comic book science stuff, is vulnerable to magic.

And theres no shame in being koed, by someone whos stronger than you originally, but now being times ten.

Thats like me saying that WW being beaten by Sundipped Superman is a low showing.

I am reading you post, but are you READING mine? Majestic has the speed and reaction time to dodge and slug SS off his board ill post the scans again.

SS is only going to do so much in straight line, and Majestic isnt a dumb slow brick, his speed level is close enough to SS that he would be able to see SS.

AND I have posted Scans that Majestic has extremly fast analyzes and reaction speeds, faster then anything SS has ever shown in comics.

Majestic saw, analyzed, and reacted in PICTO seconds, that is faster then any reaction SS has ever shown on panel, and being able to react this fast with his thousands of times the speed of light speed he could dodge SS even if by an inch, and thats all MAjestic needs to slug SS off his board. Going at the speeds SS will be going at hes not going to be able to make a 90 degree turn fast enough to dodge Majestic.

Going fast in a straight line is dandy, but it is in no way going to win the fight, if anything it puts SS at a major dis advantage.

P.S. unlike Flash being stabed by DS, SS has had consistent bad showings for combat speed and agility through his entire comic history.

P.S.S. An example of why SS speed blitzing wouldn't work is this;

"Thanos for example is not the fastest of characters. However he has been shown to have reflexes that are sharp enough to hit characters who move at light speeds." -Soujaboy

Now Thanos is able to hit and KO SS, Majestic's combat, flight, and reaction speed all surpasses Thanos, now its not that hard to see why Majestic would KO SS.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Majestic is stronger than baseline Surfer. Easy.
Faster?? Wouldn't say that on his best day.

Durability?? Significantly less than.
Energy output?? A bit less than as well.

I've seen Majestic hurt, by alot less than what Surfer is capable of putting out.

And i see what you mean Vally.

When i see Majestic compared to PC Superman, its kinda funny. Cuz if they read his books, they'd see that he's an interesting character on his own.
And i actually hate that in everything he's compared to Superman.

I've enjoyed his latest books a lot more than i have Supermans.

There's an epic scope and feel to his stories that imo are lacking from alot of the other big heroes. Plus i love the art.

I wouldn't say SS is faster. On his board his travelling speed is excellent, but Maj is just as fast in one of his flying contraptions. While
Maj doesn't have Surfers accelaration on the board, he seems to be controlling his machine just fine. He's basically got a screen connected to an engine and nothing else here.

Reaction wise, they are the same.

Surfer has scanned and analyzed in pictoseconds as well.

But what you aren't getting, is that once the bell goes off, Surfer is gone.
Whether in front of him or behind, Surfer is gone.

Speedblitzing mean nothing, when the guy you're trying to blitz, is gone lightyears in the other direction, only to swoop back in and start shooting at you from a distance.

And the way you're writing Majestic, he'll keep on zooming into a face full of high powered cosmic energy.

And he can't take as much of that as others.

And theres a vast misconception about Surfer here it appears.

He isn't only fast in a straight line. He is hella shifty on that board.

So its not a simple blitz in and knock him off thing.

And i'd say Thanos is stronger than Majestic. Easily.

If you noticed, only heroes get lifting feats the majority of the time.

Darkseid hasn't lifted anything in ages, if ever, and yet we know he's stronger than Superman and the rest.

Why the disregard to Thanos?

And Avy, i got the comic. He's using that to cross a vast amount of space to find the citizens of Earth.

Thats not standard Majestic equipment.

Surfer's board is a mainstay of Surfer comics.

And i'd say Surfer is quite a bit faster.

Crossing the universe/galaxies in seconds >>>> Crossing universe/galaxies in several panels.

You just don't get it Omi! SS is not going to be past Majestic soon as the bell goes off, Majestic is going to see SS coming, dodge him and slug him off his board.

UniOmi why don't you post scans of Silver Surfer speed blitzing some one who moves at thousands of times the speed of light?

and Majestic is stronger then Thanos, when has thanos pushed planets around with his own strength and no tech or outside empowerment?

Originally posted by Jesse7
You just don't get it Omi! SS is not going to be past Majestic soon as the bell goes off, Majestic is going to see SS coming, dodge him and slug him off his board.

UniOmi why don't you post scans of Silver Surfer speed blitzing some one who moves at thousands of times the speed of light?

and Majestic is stronger then Thanos, when has thanos pushed planets around with his own strength and no tech or outside empowerment?