Marka Ragnos vs Naga Sadow

Started by Darth Sexy5 pages

ok? It also says most powerful of the most powerful.

1) Where?
2) It's wiki it doesn't count.

then go to swcomics.com and find GAOTS

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
I did, and I disagree with your statement of "Luke will easily own Ragnos", and "I put Ragnos with Kun and Sidious at the very least".

Oh really? Then what do you think it is?

Ok, for the last time: That comic summary is in present tense
It referred only to the Ancient Sith Empire. Why does everyone keep ignoring the fact that it applies only to what's happening currently and NOT a blanket statement?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Ok, for the last time: That comic summary is in present tense
It referred only to the Ancient Sith Empire. Why does everyone keep ignoring the fact that it applies only to what's happening currently and NOT a blanket statement?

Because lightsnake, you can't sit there and tell me that you have proof that it is only referring to the ancient sith empire. It just says "Most powerful of the most powerful". Why do you ignore the direct quote and add your own interpretation?

Because contextually and clarified by another LFL author, it was referring to the Ancient Empire.

It's not debateable.
"Now he is dead and two explorers arrive."
It's a present tense expkanation fow hat happened 5000 years ago. End of story

Damnit double post

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Because contextually and clarified by another LFL author, it was referring to the Ancient Empire.

It's not debateable.
"Now he is dead and two explorers arrive."
It's a present tense expkanation fow hat happened 5000 years ago. End of story

Where was it clarified by the LFL Author? You INTERPRET it as a present tense explanation, while it could be that or it could be more but this is YOUR interpretation, nothing more.

Dan Wallace on this forum, acually.

And how else can you take it? The now he is dead and two explorers arrive is a dead give away...

Originally posted by Escape81
Oh really? Then what do you think it is?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Dan Wallace on this forum, acually.

And how else can you take it? The now he is dead and two explorers arrive is a dead give away...

Show me where "Dan Wallace" said it. And last I checke Dan Wallace=/KJA. And that is NOT a dead giveaway, because they were were verbally fellating him, in no way does that mean it was referring to that time period. If there was a quote stating, "Palpatine was the greatest sith lord, now he's dead", are you going to interpret that by only his time?

Go to the members face and find 'Danwall88'

And no, it does refer to time period. 'Now he is dead and two explorers' arrive.

Present tense, nothing about all time. And yeah, I'd interpret any quote like that present and not counting the future, because that's exactly what it was.

again, this is your interpretation, this is not fact. Go ahead and email somebody if you wish and get their factual interpretation, but don't sit there telling me your interpretation is fact.

Possibly because of things like context and grammar?

I'd side with Lightsnake.

"Marka Ragnos, the most powerful of the most powerful, but now he is dead." Clearly that's referring to only in that time. I mean, obviously, people like Sidious, Exar, Revan (IDK, just throwing Sith Lords names out) weren't even around, so how could it apply to all throughout the ages?

Answer: It wouldn't. Marka Ragnos is the most powerful of the Ancient Sith, the quote does not apply to any other era of Sith Lords, especially ones that weren't even alive yet.

"Palpatine was the greatest sith lord, now he's dead", are you going to interpret that by only his time?

No, because it says "the greatest Sith Lord", okay, then Palpatine was the greatest Sith Lord up until DE, since that's where he is from. Marka Ragnos' quote couldn't apply to Sith Lords in the future, neither would Sidious', but it does apply to all those who were before him.

If another Sith Lord came out after Palpatine, the quote wouldn't apply to that Sith Lord, because he wasn't before Palpatine. Same with Ragnos' quote, except his quote wouldn't apply to as broad of a time.

No, I understand this fact, I know what it was referring to, I just wanted to see if lightsnake could give me definitive proof. Obviously nobody else existed at that time.

Originally posted by Lord Saboteur
Then you might as well say that t3h chuz3n 1 beats everything.
At least we can still argue about how he fights and is beaten etc.
Originally posted by Sith'ari
The most powerful of the most powerful =/ the most powerful ever.
OMG! Most powerful most powerful. It is just like how Sidious was meant to be the most powerful ever at first. Now there are like thousands of new stories but since there isn't anything really valuable about what kind of power Ragnos has, we just stick to the romantic image of him being most powerful of most powerful evah?

When I first got it here, he could kill all jedi of the prequels and throw stars and shit. All those previous speculations makes the EU unrealistic and dumb. But people just have to drag him in.

I don't think the title was referring to Ragnos, but it was actually referring to the title of Dark Lord of the Sith. Meaning, that, whoever was the most powerful of their time got to be the Dark Lord of the Sith (not that Ragnos was the most powerful up until that time).

No, it was clear that Ragnos was the most powerful of the most powerful of at LEAST that time