Hercules vs. Wolverine

Started by olympian21 pages

Cloathes?

Something else...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Something else...

Like what? A "special" aura?

Yes, but it's powered by an outside source in this very world...

Wolverine's powers and abilities from a Wolvieboy point of view:

Strength:
At least Class 100, if not incalculable.Logan throw down with Class 100 guys, and man, he's WOLVERINE!He must be Class 100, so cool with his cigar, the jacket, the motorcycle and his cool costume.He has punched off their feet guys like...Oh yeah he sent off his feet Hercules with a chair, that is certainly a Class 100 feat.

Durability:
Currently the uber alles Logan can recover from being just a skeleton, he's immortal, he's been into the sun and came back, he survived a nuclear bomb point blank, he's on par with JUGGERNAUT!LOGAN RULES!SNIKT!Adamantium is like uru, just better!

Speed and Reflexes:
Logan has warp speed reflexes.He was able to beat Hogun, he dodged lasers, freakin lasers!He and Sabretooth are faster than human eye can see!They are on Flash level!

Weapons Energy Projection:
Under certain circumstances, his claws became kryptonite coated, and so he can beat the hell outta any kryptonian.He also can project red sun radiation from his eyes, and channel into his hands power cosmic.I once heard Logan tapped into the Speed Force, kicked all the speedsters out of it, and then used the wall source to built his new home.
Berserker Rage Wolverine is rumored to be on par with Pre Retcon Beyonder, and he stated he could make the Living Tribunal his b.i.t.ch but showed mercy cause the guy is a poor golden body who wears a showel on the head.

Funny. For a human sized body to totally move faster than the "eye can see", he would have to move several times the speed of sound. That's fanboy arguments for you though.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Wolverine's powers and abilities from a Wolvieboy point of view:

Strength:
At least Class 100, if not incalculable.Logan throw down with Class 100 guys, and man, he's WOLVERINE!He must be Class 100, so cool with his cigar, the jacket, the motorcycle and his cool costume.He has punched off their feet guys like...Oh yeah he sent off his feet Hercules with a chair, that is certainly a Class 100 feat.

Durability:
Currently the uber alles Logan can recover from being just a skeleton, he's immortal, he's been into the sun and came back, he survived a nuclear bomb point blank, he's on par with JUGGERNAUT!LOGAN RULES!SNIKT!Adamantium is like uru, just better!

Speed and Reflexes:
Logan has warp speed reflexes.He was able to beat Hogun, he dodged lasers, freakin lasers!He and Sabretooth are faster than human eye can see!They are on Flash level!

Weapons Energy Projection:
Under certain circumstances, his claws became kryptonite coated, and so he can beat the hell outta any kryptonian.He also can project red sun radiation from his eyes, and channel into his hands power cosmic.I once heard Logan tapped into the Speed Force, kicked all the speedsters out of it, and then used the wall source to built his new home.
Berserker Rage Wolverine is rumored to be on par with Pre Retcon Beyonder, and he stated he could make the Living Tribunal his b.i.t.ch but showed mercy cause the guy is a poor golden body who wears a showel on the head.

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Originally posted by K3VIL
Wolverine's powers and abilities from a Wolvieboy point of view:

Strength:
At least Class 100, if not incalculable.Logan throw down with Class 100 guys, and man, he's WOLVERINE!He must be Class 100, so cool with his cigar, the jacket, the motorcycle and his cool costume.He has punched off their feet guys like...Oh yeah he sent off his feet Hercules with a chair, that is certainly a Class 100 feat.

Durability:
Currently the uber alles Logan can recover from being just a skeleton, he's immortal, he's been into the sun and came back, he survived a nuclear bomb point blank, he's on par with JUGGERNAUT!LOGAN RULES!SNIKT!Adamantium is like uru, just better!

Speed and Reflexes:
Logan has warp speed reflexes.He was able to beat Hogun, he dodged lasers, freakin lasers!He and Sabretooth are faster than human eye can see!They are on Flash level!

Weapons Energy Projection:
Under certain circumstances, his claws became kryptonite coated, and so he can beat the hell outta any kryptonian.He also can project red sun radiation from his eyes, and channel into his hands power cosmic.I once heard Logan tapped into the Speed Force, kicked all the speedsters out of it, and then used the wall source to built his new home.
Berserker Rage Wolverine is rumored to be on par with Pre Retcon Beyonder, and he stated he could make the Living Tribunal his b.i.t.ch but showed mercy cause the guy is a poor golden body who wears a showel on the head.

i agree lol, fanboys need to star parin wolve up with people that he can at least compare to, threads putting him up against people like thor, hulk, juggs, herc, etc are very laughable

I'd rather see Wolverine vs. Ares (God of War). Now that's interesting.

As for this fight...if Wonder Man can beat the snot out of Wolverine, then Herc can do it quicker and better.

Originally posted by jinzin
all wolverine has to do is snikt him the belly or the groin or the face and bang the fight's over....

...and if and when wolverine DOES hit him in the gut and or face with those claws.. this fight's over simple as.

Riiiight. rolleyes1

Of course this is assuming that Herc is just standing around with his thumb in his ass letting Wolvie cut him up. Plus this is totally ignoring Herc's durability and regenerative capabilities, not to mention his hand-to-hand skills, as he is a master wrestler.

In conclusion, (if written with sanity, rather than in the spirit of 'Spidey vs. FireLord'😉, Hercules should have little problem with someone like Wolverine.

But if Wolverine manages to lunge at him or sneak up on him and slice him deep in the neck...he'll feel it.

Originally posted by olympian
1- Still with the jib about the Grey Hulk and the Larsen figth? Get over it. He lost both. He even said so in the Larsen figth when we see him running from Hulk to the mine.

no he successfully KOed grey hulk and the real fight that followed up, ended in a stalemate as it was.

the second fight wolverine almost drowned hulk.. hulk needed an extra boost of fury and power to survive the fight... and hulk STILL ended up unconcious.. not wolverine...
way to show you know about squat for what we're discussing here... 😬

Originally posted by olympian
1.a- Everyone transformed by Apocalypse wer upgraded. Show me why wouldnt Wolverine be, when everyone else, including more powerful people wer. Thats Apocalypse M.o.
and so was wolverine... he got an admantium skeleton and a nifty suit with camo mode, and psionic failsafes... prove to me where it's ever been statewd ANYWHERE that he was given more than that..

Originally posted by olympian
2- The Avengers didnt backed up Herc in his first figth with the Mindless Hulk, no. He went at it alone. As seen by the fact the others wer watching the two figthing without interfering.

avengers fight hulk... herc goes in a goes a round or two... avengers fight hulk.. it's not the same as a 1on1.... 😕

if that's the case wolverine handeled hulk just fine during their spat in the infinity war.

Originally posted by olympian
3- Circunstancial nothing. Logan challenged him and was ko with a love tap.
it was circumstantial.. he was on the fritz and mr. fantastic even states that on panal.. why don't brick shots work like that the other 100% of the time? oh that's right cause the one time it DID happen it was under circumstances..

Originally posted by olympian
3.a- Do you even have examples of him stabbing top tiers instead of just cutting? Or your best example is cutting someone whos not in the top tier bracet?
thanos isn't in the top tier bracket now? 😕

Originally posted by olympian
4- haha. So you count that as a superior showing just because he finally scored one single hit after being humilliated across the room? Priceless.
no I count it as a superior showing cause
a) herc was scared to death of wolverie's claws
b) herc had to grab a shield to even try and deal with wolverine.
and c) wolverine put herc on his ass and hit him so hard herc was rubbing his jaw...

Originally posted by olympian
5- No. Your have discounting the mini brawl just because he was again treated as inferior. Wereas i dont discount any of them.
no I'm discounting it cause it wasn't a fight.. what happened.. herc once again sprang for a shield.. and then he ran away... not a fight... knocking wolveirne down does not equate to a victory... and running away from someone, and shielding yourself from them with the fear of god in your voice equates to even less so.

Originally posted by olympian
6- Two superior showings over one.
yup two superior wolvie showings over hercs controverisal ONE.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So anytime Wolverine is knocked out it was because he was "hit before", but if he's in a fight and takes hits from much stronger characters, that by the same margin is ok?

not really.. it's just hard to use something as a "standard" example when it's already been flawed or tainted by something else. that's all.

So you count wolverine stabbing thanos? interesting...

Logan was scared shi*less of Tigershark, and only took a technical win by cutting TS's suit, which he needed to stay above water.

Can't Herc pull off Wolverine's limbs without breaking any adamantium.
Last I heard, you can dislocate a limb without it being broken.
I say Hercules turns Logan into a hairy, smokey, cursing paperweight.

Or, he just binds Wolverines arms out to his sides, and uses his adamantium laced body as a grumpy, cursing punching bag for eternity.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Just saying a reason how he could have lost them...🤨

oh..sorry.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Erm...it's a known fact that Grey Hulk is NOT as powerful as other Hulk incarnations...there is no way going around the fact that 99% of the greatest Hulk feats are made by Savage or Professor Hulk...Grey Hulk is simply not as powerful as those two are.
not as powerful at base strength no.. but in the same league while angered nonetheless. Hell he's even gone for a feat of strength vs. savage hulk and was completely overpowered like some ragdoll.... true enough about the last statement.. but again you're missing the point someone said he's never beaten hulk.. he has.. which version was never specified.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Uhh...did I say that they don't count? I just said that this one was a weak-ass incarnation...I notice how you fail to explain the fact that it took him MINUTES to heal his EYES, whereas Professor Hulk, for example healed his ENTIRE BODY from near-skeletal state in seconds...

hulk's healing factor is as inconsistant as wolverine's... yet I'm apparently the only one who seems to notice this... why does savage hulk bleed for minutes on end when speed freak tears into him but he can heal his entire chest having a hole blown through it in minutes?
it doesn't mean he's automatically a weaker version...

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
And what a odd nuke it was...see it's result from the first panel...

Yeah, like I said, barely made a crater (A small crater)

THIS one is a nuke.
http://img84.exs.cx/img84/3118/nuke54wz.jpg

that's not what I'm talking about I'm talking about when he whacked him with a redwood.. and then the ground was glazed over in the entire area.. as akin with a nuke.. not that the destruction that was caused was on the same volume as a nuke.. 😬

hell you can even see the glazed ground in that pic.. I seriously think you're misinterpreting things here...

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
😂 Because we all know that a fricking headbutt from Wolverine is enough to make Savage Hulk bleed...

No...Savage Hulk is the incarnation that survives a re-entry from space with no trouble AT ALL.
http://img110.exs.cx/img110/3433/nebulon24iq.jpg

so apparently... hulk's cartilidge in his nose is harder than admantium?

dude I really don't get what the big deal with this is, cap registers hits on namor, wolverine's registered hits on hercules, daredevil's registered hits on hide.. it's not that big a deal for these kinds of guys to hurt bricks.. Also.. you can't POSSIBLY say that savage hulk had no trouble at all from re-entry... savage hulk is cut by wolverine but he heals so fast he SEEMS impenetrable... and this is stated ON PANEL. any damage he may have sustained in re-entry wouldn't be there once out of the crater.. simple as...
the headbut; well again hulk healing factor is written as inconsistantly as wolverine's... I guess everytime people make wolverine bleed for more than 2 seconds they're obviously fighting a debpowered wolverine. 😬

again all we're workin with here is speculation.. it was savage hulk.. it wasn't stated to be a weak version of savage hulk so.... it was savage hulk.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
If a HEADBUTT from Wolverine is enough to make this Hulk bleed and shout in pain, and it takes it more then FIFTEEN MINUTES to heal his EYES, Namor, Hercules, or Thor would stomp that weak-ass incarnation to the ground.
read above.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
And the examples don't count because the heroes were holding back...even a five-year-old child could see the difference between the punches that topple mountains and the pathetic punches they throw against Wolverine...hell, the sound effects ALONE show that.
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OMG another ONE! another guy that thinks savage hulk holds back his punches! 🤣

"Hulk smash little man!"

yes... yes he's clearly CLEARLY holding back ain't he? 🙄

Originally posted by bigbran
So you count wolverine stabbing thanos? interesting...
I don't see why not.. it WAS canon.. and wolverine's been shown to pierce through pretty much anything and anyone on his path aside from majic, and maybe one or two other things off the top of my head....

Originally posted by Horrificus
Logan was scared shi*less of Tigershark, and only took a technical win by cutting TS's suit, which he needed to stay above water.
wolverine wasn't scared.. 🤨

and he didn't rip his suit.. he shredded the shit out of tiger shark himself.. that's why tigershark was bleeding all over the place.. that's why a swarm of sharks showed up to eat him.. 😬

Originally posted by Horrificus
Can't Herc pull off Wolverine's limbs without breaking any adamantium.
Last I heard, you can dislocate a limb without it being broken.
I say Hercules turns Logan into a hairy, smokey, cursing paperweight.
no he can't.. ba'al tried it didn't work.. and before we bring ultimates into this ultimate is NOT 616 so that's that.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Or, he just binds Wolverines arms out to his sides, and uses his adamantium laced body as a grumpy, cursing punching bag for eternity.
with what per se?

In Wolverin II #19, Logan was very worried because of TS's record of going toe to toe with Namor. And, he did not do very well against TS. And, all he did was screw up his suit.

In #20 was when Logan actually beat TS.
And, strong ropes will hold Logan if his arms are stretched out tight enough. So he cant twist and cut. Unless he now can grow blades from his wrists.
Logans limbs can't be dislocated? So, Logan really doesn't have a skeleton? It is somehow all connected in one continuous line of adamantium? Then, I wonder how it moves. If it is all one piece.
Bunk, all bunk.

Originally posted by jinzin
I don't see why not.. it WAS canon.. and wolverine's been shown to pierce through pretty much anything and anyone on his path aside from majic, and maybe one or two other things off the top of my head....
Thanos has withstood everything that he has cum up against, be it, galactus, tyrant, the maker, odin, a black hole. but he can be cut by wolves?
That's like using thing one punching wolverine. or daredevil doing it as well.
It's pis.

and plus when wolves stabbed him, thanos had the IG.
And when bone claws did it, well theres nothing else to say...
There both pis.

Originally posted by jinzin
read above.

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OMG another ONE! another guy that thinks savage hulk holds back his punches! 🤣

"Hulk smash little man!"

yes... yes he's clearly CLEARLY holding back ain't he? 🙄

You do realize there's a difference between a character that holds back and a character being written held back.
Originally posted by jinzin
I don't see why not.. it WAS canon.. and wolverine's been shown to pierce through pretty much anything and anyone on his path aside from majic, and maybe one or two other things off the top of my head....
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