Yes, Nate can reform his body and have someone go through it, my point is that he was already fighting and had that split second to react. If Supes doesn’t drop him in the first nanosecond then Supes gets schooled. His PreCon is not working all the time and is not automatic, if you can show me where that is then he will own Supes but without it he can not react fast enough to protect himself. The chemical reaction that transmits data in the brain and makes it function doesn’t not react even close to the speed of light so unless his brain is already working that fast he can not think before Supes would reach him.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well prove me wrong. Just saying so isn't doing anything. THe stats on Superman's powers are well documented. The Flash consistantly beat Superman. Flash runs at light speed for fun. 700 billion tons of pressure per square inch is exceedingly powerful. Your telling me that is not right? I've read that stat about superman many times. And if Superman was so much more durable than taking a blast from a Nuclear bomb, then why do villians like sparx have the ability to hurt supers? I dont' think I'm skewed at all. Superman is great. But he just should be able to beat any New GOD. By the very definition of NEW GODS, the very least is supposedly stronger than any sky father. I'm not going off of what's been written since Superman can move the universe according to DC. I'm going off of descriptions and logical sense.
Well, first to your response about Superman's heat vision being only as hot as '20,000' degrees: Superman can make his heat vision hotter than anything that can be scientifically measured. Meaning they can measure the heat of plasma (BILLIONS of degrees), but not Superman's.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/863/supermansheatvision30nk.jpg
Second of all, Flash travels MULTIPLES upon MULTIPLES of light speed, so that point is pretty much moot.
Third, Superman is much stronger than that:
(holding black holes in his hand)
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9199/supermanblackhole0015ak.jpg
(tossing a moon-sized ship casually)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/moonmover.jpg
(splitting a moon in half ladies and gentlemen)
http://img450.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanspeedfeatub7.jpg
Fourth, about your notion that Superman can barely take a nuclear bomb:
(Superman flying out of a DOUBLE black hole)
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4198/untitled128qt3bk.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5858/untitled138wy8fy.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5207/untitled140kt3ew.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/938/untitled152oe8eq.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8946/untitled166ov4wo.jpg
(Superman taking a blast equal to a million nuclear blasts)
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/850/0822346hj.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3932/08222005121910pm8yp.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/6301/089054127na.jpg
(Here is supes surviving an island destroying nuke at ground zero WHILE laying in kryptonite AND weakened from fighting multiple enemies for days. He comes out unfazed.)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/supesnuke.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/supesnuke2.jpg
u forget that even SUPERMAN'S mind does not work at or near lightspeed. he can ACCELERATE to near lightspeed with great effort {and many many circles around the earth on panel} but he doesnt THINK that fast he thinks significantly faster than mos human bot NOT phenomonally faster. he also has to let light reach him to see and that is only after his brain processes it and he makes a DECISION. and yes nate's telepathy/precog WILL give the advantage over that and nate CAN even if he doesnt try easily survive a SPEED BLITZ his psionic being is NOT seperate from his physical being he has taken blows from extremely powerful superhumans without a shield up at all and gotten right back up. and anyway it would take supes WAY longer than a nanosecond to get to him. besides the fact that supes CANT speedblitz him, nate CAN survive an unwarned speed blitz.
Originally posted by batdude123
Well, first to your response about Superman's heat vision being only as hot as '20,000' degrees: Superman can make his heat vision hotter than anything that can be scientifically measured. Meaning they can measure the heat of plasma (BILLIONS of degrees), but not Superman's.http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/863/supermansheatvision30nk.jpg
Second of all, Flash travels MULTIPLES upon MULTIPLES of light speed, so that point is pretty much moot.
Third, Superman is much stronger than that:
(holding black holes in his hand)
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9199/supermanblackhole0015ak.jpg(tossing a moon-sized ship casually)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/moonmover.jpg(splitting a moon in half ladies and gentlemen)
http://img450.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanspeedfeatub7.jpgFourth, about your notion that Superman can barely take a nuclear bomb:
(Superman flying out of a DOUBLE black hole)
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4198/untitled128qt3bk.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5858/untitled138wy8fy.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5207/untitled140kt3ew.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/938/untitled152oe8eq.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8946/untitled166ov4wo.jpg(Superman taking a blast equal to a million nuclear blasts)
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/850/0822346hj.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3932/08222005121910pm8yp.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/6301/089054127na.jpg(Here is supes surviving an island destroying nuke at ground zero WHILE laying in kryptonite AND weakened from fighting multiple enemies for days. He comes out unfazed.)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/supesnuke.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/supesnuke2.jpg
At least marvel has the sense not to have any one Character be so over used and abused. So many inconsists with the character and DC as a whole.
If Superman was so powerful,then why does he need the JLA?
Why are Daxamites stronger than him?
Why are the Martians as strong as him, fast as him, tuff as him, with like 12 more powers, yet he is able to beat them?
How come he is vulnerable to magic, and both Diana and Billy have Godly magic but can't beat him?
How Come Darksied was able to creme the silver Surfer and by rights is the most powerful non entity in DC but Superman beat him? After all this time, Superman Finally decides to Beat someone?
If Superman is so powerful, how come he has recurring enemies? SOmeone that powerful should have everyone scared of them.
How come Zodd, Bizarro, and Doomsday dont' just kick in Superman's teeth? Geez people take a great character and ruin him by making him so unbeatable that it really means nothing to be a hero. Being a hero is about sacrifice and putting ur self in mortal danger. Kinda like How Wonder Woman did when she Fought Superman knowing full well he could have killed her. That's heroic.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
At least marvel has the sense not to have any one Character be so over used and abused. So many inconsists with the character and DC as a whole.If Superman was so powerful,then why does he need the JLA?
Why are Daxamites stronger than him?
Why are the Martians as strong as him, fast as him, tuff as him, with like 12 more powers, yet he is able to beat them?
How come he is vulnerable to magic, and both Diana and Billy have Godly magic but can't beat him?
How Come Darksied was able to creme the silver Surfer and by rights is the most powerful non entity in DC but Superman beat him? After all this time, Superman Finally decides to Beat someone?
If Superman is so powerful, how come he has recurring enemies? SOmeone that powerful should have everyone scared of them.
How come Zodd, Bizarro, and Doomsday dont' just kick in Superman's teeth? Geez people take a great character and ruin him by making him so unbeatable that it really means nothing to be a hero. Being a hero is about sacrifice and putting ur self in mortal danger. Kinda like How Wonder Woman did when she Fought Superman knowing full well he could have killed her. That's heroic.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
SHOW ME ON PANEL EVIDENCE DUMASS! post crisis superman does NOT travel at or beyond lightspeed END OF DISCUSSION. its in his OFFICIAL BIO.
You know, this post is almost not even worth of a response but oh well.
Superman travelling 21x the speed of light:
http://img450.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanspeedfeatub7.jpg
Superman taking Darkseid to the Sun in seconds, when it takes light 8 minutes:
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5590/darksiedbeaten7sq.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6573/darksiedbeaten25ph.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/192/supermanbatman13pg08097cu.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1609/supermanbatman13pg109es.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5647/supermanbatman13pg114cl.jpg
Superman heres GL (Kyle) millions of miles away from Earth in bed, and he gets there in seconds.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1954/08222005054558pm3oy.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2785/08222005054722pm5jq.jpg
And these are just few of the MANY speed feats well over the speed of light. 😉
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
At least marvel has the sense not to have any one Character be so over used and abused. So many inconsists with the character and DC as a whole.If Superman was so powerful,then why does he need the JLA?
Why are Daxamites stronger than him?
Why are the Martians as strong as him, fast as him, tuff as him, with like 12 more powers, yet he is able to beat them?
How come he is vulnerable to magic, and both Diana and Billy have Godly magic but can't beat him?
How Come Darksied was able to creme the silver Surfer and by rights is the most powerful non entity in DC but Superman beat him? After all this time, Superman Finally decides to Beat someone?
If Superman is so powerful, how come he has recurring enemies? SOmeone that powerful should have everyone scared of them.
How come Zodd, Bizarro, and Doomsday dont' just kick in Superman's teeth? Geez people take a great character and ruin him by making him so unbeatable that it really means nothing to be a hero. Being a hero is about sacrifice and putting ur self in mortal danger. Kinda like How Wonder Woman did when she Fought Superman knowing full well he could have killed her. That's heroic.
There are many things wrong with this. I'm not even going to touch it.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
u forget that even SUPERMAN'S mind does not work at or near lightspeed. he can ACCELERATE to near lightspeed with great effort {and many many circles around the earth on panel} but he doesnt THINK that fast he thinks significantly faster than mos human bot NOT phenomonally faster. he also has to let light reach him to see and that is only after his brain processes it and he makes a DECISION. and yes nate's telepathy/precog WILL give the advantage over that and nate CAN even if he doesnt try easily survive a SPEED BLITZ his psionic being is NOT seperate from his physical being he has taken blows from extremely powerful superhumans without a shield up at all and gotten right back up. and anyway it would take supes WAY longer than a nanosecond to get to him. besides the fact that supes CANT speedblitz him, nate CAN survive an unwarned speed blitz.
I have no idea where you came up with that notion, but it's COMPLETELY wrong. Take your flawed logic elsewhere and stop spamming up this thread with complete and utter bullshit like this.
