wolverine vs sasquatch

Originally posted by tkitna
Well, my explanation for Sas winning is that even if its a straight fist to fist fight and Wolverine does stab Sasquatch, all I envision is Sasquatch picking Wolverine up by the head and slamming him down as hard as he can (with the power that tosses airliners around).

Third, yeah yeah yeah sas tosses plains around... so what? hulk punches planets into debris, yet wolverine somehow manages to survive, AND continue fighting when he gets hit by bricks.. IF sasquatch grabbed him wolverine can simply lop off the arm or stab the arm or slice it beyond recognition.

Originally posted by tkitna
Yes Wolverine has a healing factor, but how much damage can it heal when all that stuff moves around within his admantium skull and skeleton from that kind of force?

wonderman attacked him relentlessly and wolverine didn't even get knocked unconcious.
wolverine fought mauvias (a dr. strange level character) and wendigo at the same time, then fought a mauvais-wendigo hybrid uber power god like creature and took a score of punches from him remaining concious.

he's been hit by hulk with a redwood and the destructive force of a bomb, had all his organs turned to jelly... yet he kept fighting back.

he's been attacked by wendigo and let the beast pound on him to allow other people to escape, never got koed...

he's been attacked by sasquatch as shown in this very thread and he's just cracking jokes.. obviously his damage soak is ridiculous.. he can take plenty of hits from sasquatch more often than not... can the same be said the other way around?
sabretooth, and wendigo say different.

Originally posted by tkitna
Sure, in due time Wolverine heals, but not in the time that it would take for sasquatch to bash him again,,,and again,,,and again,,,,

in any case wolverine WITHOUT admantium was stated to be beaten ALL DAY by a class 70 character in roughouse.... he STILL broke free of his restraints and STILL fought back... obviously, if his healing factor is working at it's best he'll do just fine in a fight...
sure damage can catch up with him, but it's unlikely that sasquatch is going to keep hitting wolverine over and over unanswered...

Originally posted by tkitna
and the damage should worsen each time in which it should take Wolverine that much longer to heal.

Originally posted by tkitna
A backhand from sasquatch should send Wolverine miles away even.

Originally posted by tkitna
I realize its comics, but trying to explain how Sasquatch is going to win is much easier than an explanation as to how Wolverine could possibly win.

all wolverine has to do is move and strike, move and strike... it's not going to take LOADS and LOADS of damage to immobilize sasquatch or slow him down, not like it does hulk, a character who wolverine gives fits to all the time in fights.

Originally posted by tkitna
I also realize that Marvel has made Wolverine into a pretty much DC doomsday clone as I guess he cant die anymore (lame).
Lets face it, if Wolverine wasnt Marvels cash cow, in any comic continuity, characters like namor, tiger shark, hulk, thing, abomination, and wendigo take him out within 2 panels. Just my opinion.

so we're going to ignore the feats that the character does because he's a popular character?

sorry spiderman I guess you really CAN'T take on the sin six, give trouble to the ff, much less thing, or cause groups of x-men trouble, or hulk... etc etc etc...

see that kind of argument is just nonsense. it takes away from anything of value that we learn from comics for these debates. debates which are comics specific in orientation.

Originally posted by jinzin
hell, sas was having problems putting down bone claw wolverine and that was AFTER bone claw took it to the rest of his alpha flight team.

That wasn't Walter (bigfoot of myth not the same Sasquatch), and Alpha Flight were brain washed

Originally posted by jinzin
do you have any other explanation for your 10/10 decision other than sas being stronger because 90% of the people that wolverine fights are stronger than he is, and it makes a difference about 10% of the time.

Sasquatch won't win 10/10, but he will clearly get the majority. Also no, Sasquatch can increase his strength via rage or pain reaching Elder God status.

Originally posted by jinzin
sabretooth had sasquatch at an immediate disadvantage in their fight... how did walt even the odds? by friggin CHEATING... 😕

PIS, wooden spikes impaled Walter, yet he has taken armor peircing machine gun fire without it penetrating his skin. Yet wooden spikes? please.

Originally posted by jinzin
[B]okay first off... if wolverine lands a blow, what makes you think that sasquatch will be able to simply shrug it off?

Because he's a class 100 character and anything that Wolverine could give him is being shrugged off. Yeah, I know Wolverine fights class 100 heros all the time although its PIS. Its complete garbage. Yeah, I know it happens on a regular basis in the comics, but its crap because he's a popular hero and makes the company money. Ok, if he does it,,,he does it. I cant deny his feats, but its retarded. When the Hulk ripped him in half (dont remember the comic or continuity, but thats what would and should happen everytime Wolverine messes with one of the top tiers. I just cant believe they allow it to happen and blind people like they do, but whatever, it happens.

both sabretooth and wendigo have hurt sasquatch with a rake of their claws.. wolverine's claws are longer than either of the afformentioned parties and should do more damage...

Sabertooth even harming Sasquatch is PIS. Wendigo I can understand.

second, if wolverine lands a blow why would he stand there and let walt pick him up? why wouldn't he keep hopping around slashing as he went along like he did to wendigo? like he does to hulk? like he did to lazuras? why would he stop moving on a point of contact?

We're talking about a creature that has nabbed Northstar and your questioning how he couldnt grab Wolverine?

Third, yeah yeah yeah sas tosses plains around... so what? hulk punches planets into debris, yet wolverine somehow manages to survive, AND continue fighting when he gets hit by bricks.. IF sasquatch grabbed him wolverine can simply lop off the arm or stab the arm or slice it beyond recognition.

Like the Hulk,,,i'm not sure Wolverine even can lop his arm off.

wonderman attacked him relentlessly and wolverine didn't even get knocked unconcious.

He was as close to being knocked out as somebody could be, and I wonder what would have happened if Wonderman would have smashed him with the rock. I guarantee, he was going to be out after that.

wolverine fought mauvias (a dr. strange level character) and wendigo at the same time, then fought a mauvais-wendigo hybrid uber power god like creature and took a score of punches from him remaining concious.

I have no defense for piss poor writing.

he's been hit by hulk with a redwood and the destructive force of a bomb, had all his organs turned to jelly... yet he kept fighting back.

he's been attacked by wendigo and let the beast pound on him to allow other people to escape, never got koed...

he's been attacked by sasquatch as shown in this very thread and he's just cracking jokes.. obviously his damage soak is ridiculous.. he can take plenty of hits from sasquatch more often than not... can the same be said the other way around?
sabretooth, and wendigo say different.

See my above statement

and again, what in blue hell makes you think logans gonna just stand there and take it? what makes you think that sasquatch is gonna even land the first hit, or be able to land more?
sabretooth had sasquatch at an immediate disadvantage in their fight... how did walt even the odds? by friggin CHEATING... 😕

Sasquatch is fast enough to tag Wolverine and about the cheating,,,,its a fight, not a poker game. I'm sure Wolverine slaps out his 'fight rule book' everytime he fights. Please.

in any case wolverine WITHOUT admantium was stated to be beaten ALL DAY by a class 70 character in roughouse.... he STILL broke free of his restraints and STILL fought back... obviously, if his healing factor is working at it's best he'll do just fine in a fight...
sure damage can catch up with him, but it's unlikely that sasquatch is going to keep hitting wolverine over and over unanswered...

Ask yourself,,,do you really think a being that can lift 70 tons isnt going to rip the head off of a person that has 2 to 3 times the strenght of a normal human? Come on now. Bad writing strikes again.

should.. possibly... but assuming that we bring real world physics into a comic book debate that really doesn't help sas win a fight does it? wolverine can still come back to the battlefield fully recovered from the hit and we start from square one all over again.

With real world physics, no healing factor is going to be in the equation if somebody is smacked hard enough to travel that distance. Sorry, he dies.

hmm I suppose that's true....
you know.. if you don't know a great deal about wolverine....

Yeah, I have no idea what the character is or what he's about. 😉

all wolverine has to do is move and strike, move and strike... it's not going to take LOADS and LOADS of damage to immobilize sasquatch or slow him down, not like it does hulk, a character who wolverine gives fits to all the time in fights.

You mean the Hulk that Sasquatch held more than his own against? The same Sasquatch that fought the Hulk and in turn destroyed acres of land during the battle. I'm pretty sure he can take LOADS of damage.

so we're going to ignore the feats that the character does because he's a popular character?

We should, but I suppose we cant. I'm sure the beating that sentry gave him will be retconned eventually too.

sorry spiderman I guess you really CAN'T take on the sin six, give trouble to the ff, much less thing, or cause groups of x-men trouble, or hulk... etc etc etc...

Spiderman is also above Wolverine, but truthfully, no he probably shouldnt be able to do those feats.

see that kind of argument is just nonsense. it takes away from anything of value that we learn from comics for these debates. debates which are comics specific in orientation.

I'll give you this, Marvel has Wolverine jacked up for profits and so forth, but there is no way possible he should be able to hang with class 100 characters,,,,ever. Take it for what it is and i'll do the same.

Originally posted by jinzin
wolverine fought mauvias (a dr. strange level character) and wendigo at the same time, then fought a mauvais-wendigo hybrid uber power god like creature and took a score of punches from him remaining concious.

Easy now he was ko'ed when Mauvais first became Wendigo and he was about to eat him until Alpha Flight arrived. Then later as stated in the comic, Mauvais power was weakening as he summoned a Wendigo army and created a barrier holding back the Gods of the Arctic, he was drawing himself out to thin. He was hardly full power near the end as stated.

Wendigo before we have no idea his strength level as they vary as one got hurt from bullet shots and one was afraid of when Wolverine yelled at it.

Originally posted by tkitna
Ask yourself,,,do you really think a being that can lift 70 tons isnt going to rip the head off of a person that has 2 to 3 times the strenght of a normal human? Come on now. Bad writing strikes again.

Dumb handbooks, they list him as class 70 but that doesn't match up with what it is said. In an upcoming issue, Sasquatch ko'es Wrecker and Thunderball with one hit..just one hit.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
That wasn't Walter (bigfoot of myth not the same Sasquatch), and Alpha Flight were brain washed

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Sasquatch won't win 10/10, but he will clearly get the majority.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Also no, Sasquatch can increase his strength via rage or pain reaching Elder God status.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
PIS, wooden spikes impaled Walter, yet he has taken armor peircing machine gun fire without it penetrating his skin. Yet wooden spikes? please.

wait.. what do the spikes have to do with the fight that took place before hand? 😕

Originally posted by tkitna
Because he's a class 100 character and anything that Wolverine could give him is being shrugged off. Yeah, I know Wolverine fights class 100 heros all the time although its PIS. Its complete garbage. Yeah, I know it happens on a regular basis in the comics, but its crap because he's a popular hero and makes the company money. Ok, if he does it,,,he does it.

cop out. "i don't like it, it didn't happen"... sorry but being a strong character doesn't make you invulnerable...
wonderwoman fights superaman but she can still go down from getting stabbed...
sunspot can go 100+ but he's afraid of being raked by wolverine's claws...
class 100 doesn't equate to making someone impervious to harm.

Originally posted by tkitna
Ok, if he does it,,,he does it. I cant deny his feats,

then why are you trying to.

Originally posted by tkitna
When the Hulk ripped him in half (dont remember the comic or continuity, but thats what would and should happen everytime Wolverine messes with one of the top tiers. I just cant believe they allow it to happen and blind people like they do, but whatever, it happens.

Originally posted by tkitna
Sabertooth even harming Sasquatch is PIS. Wendigo I can understand.

Originally posted by tkitna
We're talking about a creature that has nabbed Northstar and your questioning how he couldnt grab Wolverine?

Originally posted by tkitna
Like the Hulk,,,i'm not sure Wolverine even can lop his arm off.

Originally posted by tkitna
He was as close to being knocked out as somebody could be, and I wonder what would have happened if Wonderman would have smashed him with the rock. I guarantee, he was going to be out after that.

Originally posted by tkitna
I have no defense for piss poor writing.
See my above statement

Originally posted by tkitna
Sasquatch is fast enough to tag Wolverine and about the cheating,,,,its a fight, not a poker game. I'm sure Wolverine slaps out his 'fight rule book' everytime he fights. Please.

Originally posted by tkitna
Ask yourself,,,do you really think a being that can lift 70 tons isnt going to rip the head off of a person that has 2 to 3 times the strenght of a normal human? Come on now. Bad writing strikes again.

Originally posted by tkitna
With real world physics, no healing factor is going to be in the equation if somebody is smacked hard enough to travel that distance. Sorry, he dies.

Originally posted by tkitna
Yeah, I have no idea what the character is or what he's about. 😉

Originally posted by tkitna
You mean the Hulk that Sasquatch held more than his own against? The same Sasquatch that fought the Hulk and in turn destroyed acres of land during the battle. I'm pretty sure he can take LOADS of damage.

Originally posted by tkitna We should, but I suppose we cant.

Originally posted by tkitna Spiderman is also above Wolverine, but truthfully, no he probably shouldnt be able to do those feats.

so then what feats define some of these characters are ones not to be used? 🤨 I'm sorry I just don't follow that logic.

Originally posted by tkitna I'll give you this, Marvel has Wolverine jacked up for profits and so forth, but there is no way possible he should be able to hang with class 100 characters,,,,ever. Take it for what it is and i'll do the same.

Originally posted by jinzin
was it not? I could have sworn that wolverine was calling him walt in that issue...
I'm still not convinced...

what do you mean no here? I didn't say anything that contradicted this... 🤨

At this time they thought Sasquatch was Walter who lost his mind, but later issue or two it was revealed he was really a big foot Department H captured. Sasquatch II bio

Right, do you believe Wolverine can take down one of the personifications of death on Earth?

You said others were much stronger than him, when in reality Tanaraq is limitless. He spanked Talisman and Exiles Tanaraq beat Zarathos, Kulan Gath, an augmented Morbius who had Wendigo as a pet, Exiles like they were nothing.

Originally posted by jinzin
wait.. what do the spikes have to do with the fight that took place before hand? 😕

Just pointing out Sasquatch was not at his best of abilities, as he has beaten people far superior to Sabertooth in the past. Just look at Sasquatch respect thread, he punched a hole in reality for goodness sake. Sasquatch is stated to be on a higher level than Wendigo, as the Gods of the Arctic who created the Wendigo are equal to the Great Beasts.

Information concerning Sasquatch and the Earth, which as stated the Great Beasts are older than the Earth itself
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Great Beast
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Alpha Flight #38 & 44 (Vol.1): Death and Decay
The Great Beasts were embodiments of death on Earth when it was first commencing to come alive. It was stated "the Great Beasts rule over death and decay, and can implore death and decay as a weapon against mankind".

1. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/AlphaFlight38-15.jpg
2. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlight44-19.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi
At this time they thought Sasquatch was Walter who lost his mind, but later issue or two it was revealed he was really a big foot Department H captured. Sasquatch II bio

Right, do you believe Wolverine can take down one of the personifications of death on Earth?

You said others were much stronger than him, when in reality Tanaraq is limitless. He spanked Talisman and Exiles Tanaraq beat Zarathos, Kulan Gath, an augmented Morbius who had Wendigo as a pet, Exiles like they were nothing.

also, I don't think I said people are much stronger than sas.. but I may be mistaken, can you quote me on this again?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Just pointing out Sasquatch was not at his best of abilities, as he has beaten people far superior to Sabertooth in the past. Just look at Sasquatch respect thread, he punched a hole in reality for goodness sake. Sasquatch is stated to be on a higher level than Wendigo, as the Gods of the Arctic who created the Wendigo are equal to the Great Beasts.

Originally posted by jinzin
out of continuity characters mean beans here.. sorry...

also, I don't think I said people are much stronger than sas.. but I may be mistaken, can you quote me on this again?

don't get me wrong while i DO think that sasquatch has the capacity for being at that level I don't think he's going to be at that level more often than not on any given occasion. sure he's beaten people far superior to sabretooth, but sabretooth's beaten people far superior to sabretooth, that kind of logic only gets you so far here.

616 Tanaraq dominated Talisman who is Dr.Strange's equal in a canon story.

Your correct, I thought you said they were stronger than Sasquatch, but in reality you said they were stronger than Wolverine is. So you are correct, my mistake. Sorry about that

Unfourntatly for Walter it's true he is becoming more like Tanaraq ever time he takes his form.

1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlight119-03.jpg

Most of the time he is afraid of using his full strength incase of slipping, lately he just doesn't care. As stated the longer the fight continues the stronger Sasquatch will get due to rage or pain allowing Tanaraq to take control. Sabertooth has't beaten or fight the likes of people Sasquatch fought. Alpha Flight was very mystical in nature and the Great Beasts will be returning in Omega Flight. Sasquatch is the only survivor of New Avengers #16 and he is pissed what happened to his team so we may see Tanaraq soon or not. Don't know

Even Snowbird who breifly took Sasquatch form, ran the risk of him controlling her

1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlight-Annual01-1986-16.jpg
2. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlight-Annual01-1986-17.jpg

Sasquatch is just a big old wookie (joke scan)
1. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/A_Flight11/AlphaFlight130-19.jpg

With Wovlerines track record against bricks he's got a shot. That's just the way it is even if we don't like it.

Have these two ever fought?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
With Wovlerines track record against bricks he's got a shot. That's just the way it is even if we don't like it.

Have these two ever fought?

Indeed, but I don't feel he takes the majority

Twice, first fight Sasquatch ko'ed him the second no contest as Sasquatch was freed from the Demon Shaman's control.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Indeed, but I don't feel he takes the majority

Twice, first fight Sasquatch ko'ed him the second no contest as Sasquatch was freed from the Demon Shaman's control.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
So basically Sasquatch is 1-0 against Wolverine?

Yeah, but it was meh! He grabed him from behind and bashed him against walls and ko'ed him

Sasquatch vs. Wolverine (battle #1)
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Sasquatch vs. Wolverine (battle #2)
1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/w_179_012.jpg
2. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/w_179_013.jpg
3. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/w_179_014.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yeah, but it was meh! He grabed him from behind and bashed him against walls and ko'ed him

Sasquatch vs. Wolverine (battle #1)
1. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/UXM_120_Sasquatch.jpg

Sasquatch vs. Wolverine (battle #2)
1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/w_179_012.jpg
2. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/w_179_013.jpg
3. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/w_179_014.jpg

First one was definetly, but not the second one. Wolverine was searching for Sasquatch

Originally posted by King_Mungi
First one was definetly, but not the second one. Wolverine was searching for Sasquatch