Originally posted by Scoobless
In Exiles an alternate Wolverine had Sasquatch pretty much beat.shrug
eh? and what was the reason? Heather Hudson didn't want to fight and kill her husband...again. She even said that in the issue. She killed her reality Wolverine, and even when she was injuired she still believed she could kill the feral Wolverine from the different reality.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
It looks like Sasquatch was throwing the punch before Logan noticed it. And it also looked like Logan wasn't looking for a fight. What was actually going on there?
Yeah he was looking for a fight, as Shaman told him to expect one as the Demon Shaman took control over Sasquatch, Snowbird and Puck. Wolverine just finished killing these psychic bugs and then Sasquatch appeared. He knew what he was getting into
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Did he amp Sasquatches abilities? If not then it appears Sasquatch has two wins over Logan.
Nope, Puck and him were the same, just under his evil manipulation mentally. He granted no augmentation, but he activated Snowbird's transformation ability to transform herself into a female demon fly.
I consider that fight a non-contest.
Originally posted by Scoobless
And when he did have the opportunity all he did was say hi.Not sure why you keep picking at it as I'm agreeing it was a non-fight.
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Oh well earlier you comment about the Exiles fight but there was more to it.....much more. It seemed you basically were just trying to discredit Sasquatch.
Originally posted by jinzin
cop out. "i don't like it, it didn't happen"... sorry but being a strong character doesn't make you invulnerable...
wonderwoman fights superaman but she can still go down from getting stabbed...
sunspot can go 100+ but he's afraid of being raked by wolverine's claws...
class 100 doesn't equate to making someone impervious to harm.
When I see a character that takes a shot from Colossus and another shot from 6 grenades directly to the face and just shrugs them off like nothing ever happened, I tend to feel that he is somewhat invulernable, or at least somewhat enough that even after being stabbed by Wolverine, he isnt going to flinch enough to stop him from doing what he started to do. Another words, being stabbed by Wolverine isnt going to stop Sasquatch in his tracks. The fight would continue as it was before.
clearly you don't know about the adamantium bonding process that turned wolverine's bones into admantium beta pulling wolverine apart in the 616 timeline is and SHOULD BE an impossibility.. hell class 100's have tried.. and failed... there's a reason why it had to happen in ultimates.
Because Wolverine doesnt have admantium cartlidge. Theres no reason why the spine cant be pulled apart in any continuity. Plus, werent we talking about the Wolverine that had his admantium taken away? (I cant remember what part of the debate this statement came from.
do you have an actual reason to believe that?
Yes, its the same reason we are having this debate. Sasquatch is so far above Sabertooth that any win for him would be PIS.
no I'm questioning why wolverine would stop moving/fighting and allow sasquatch to hit him... say sasquatch DOES grab him.. difference between wolverine and northstar is that wolverine can continue to hurt sasquatch afterwards.. northstar not so much... example; wolverine slices his arm or stabs it and continues to go to work.. again why would he stop on point of contact?
Because I dont think that Wolverine would or should be in any shape to continue jumping and slicing around after he takes a shot from a class 100 hero. I agree that Wolverine would get a shot in if Sasquatch grabbed him, but I dont believe Wolverine can kill him or injure him enough with a one shot to stop Sasquatch from coninuosly bashing off of trees. It shouldnt be that hard to understand.
I would think hulk to be a great deal more durable than sasquatch overall.. but true. perhaps he can not, but doing damage to it isn't out of the question is it?
No, he can probably damage his arm, but I dont think it will be enough damage to even slow Sasquatch down.
for a guy so close to the edge he was sure still standing by the end of it.. 😕
Wolverine was clearly as close to a vegetable as one could be in at least two panels and if Wonderman wasnt stopped, i'm pretty sure Wolverine would have been out cold if Simon hit him in the face with that rock.
if he can't win without cheating, then he can't win straight up, it's that simple.
Thats crap. Your going to sit there and tell me that Wolverine, Spiderman, Captain America, Superman, etc,,,has never cheated to win a fight? Hell, if cheating was never in the equation, I suppose Batman and his prep has to be dismissed then right?
not if that person's wolverine with an admantium bonded skeletal structure at the molecular level...
in any case why would wolverine even be in that position? giving sas the ben of the doubt yet again.. in any case your ignoring what I said, why is sasquatch going to be landing hit after hit unanswered?
Because with each hit, Wolverine should become weaker and weaker regardless of his healing factor. Sure, Wolverine could heal after time, but these are hits from a class 100 hero, not some street leveler ninja.
first, you can't slap eal world physics on a SUPERPOWER... that's just retarded... might as well say that majic and tanaraq don't exist in the real world so walts stuck in his human form.. see how ridiculous that is in a comic book discussion.. put physics on the power behind a punch, the distance a 300 pound man would travel from it etc etc.. but not on superpowers.. that's just wrong. second, even IF wolverine died, he'd come right back.. via retcon from wolverine vol 3> 48.. sorry..
Bringing physics into the world of comics is tuff, but if you dont, why do they even have class 20, 30 50, 100 heros. You might as well make everybody the same level.
Wolverine not being able to be killed,,,,,I know for a fact that everybody that reads comics loves that cop out. Thats the most retarded thing marvel ever did and the writer who thought up that idea should be fired on the spot.
clearly you don't if you think he's going to die from a class 100 punch or get his head ripped off. 😐
Getting his head ripped off should be a real factor. Also earlier you spoke about Wolverine taking on class 70 characters all day long even without his admantium,,,,yeah I can see that. One character that has the strenght to lift 800 to 1000 lbs. fighting numerous characters that can lift 70 tons? If there was ever a case of writing worse than Spiderman beating Firelord, that was it.
not when it comes to getting sliced and diced he can't.. those are two variants of vulnerability levels.. sure he can take brute force all day but what he took from sabes was nothing and he was hurt, what he took from wendigo.. hell i've seen bone claw wolvie take more punishment than that...
Again, being hurt by Sabertooth is crap writing. Wendigo I can agree with as he also should be able to put Wolverine down whenever he wants, so a fight with sasquatch is more believable.
spiderman needs to prove it first....
Faster, stroner, and more agile,,,and I think he has proven he's better.
so then what feats define some of these characters are ones not to be used? 🤨 I'm sorry I just don't follow that logic.
Spiderman/Firelord, Wolverine/Hulk, Galactus ever losing to earth bound heros, etc,,,,. They fall into the same category.
you try to ignore what takes place in a fictional environment so you can have a better argument but you tell me to take it for what it is? hmmmm
I tell you to take it as it is, because when one reads a title for a debate like this, he immediately thinks to himself thats its retarded and its so one sided, but then again, lets grab all the comics that have Wolverine doing things so out of character just to boost his popularity up and we'll use those feats to argue. See my point.
Originally posted by snoopdoggthey've never really fought apparently... both encounters wolverine has had with walt have been sneak attacks on walt's behalf... the first did knock wolverine out.... though I don't know how much clout that ancient encounter has considering how much stronger/durable wolvies become since then. The second enocunter was what mungi said, but it was another sneak attack,
With Wovlerines track record against bricks he's got a shot. That's just the way it is even if we don't like it.Have these two ever fought?
Originally posted by King_Mungi
First one was definetly, but not the second one. Wolverine was searching for Sasquatch
Originally posted by snoopdogg
It looks like Sasquatch was throwing the punch before Logan noticed it. And it also looked like Logan wasn't looking for a fight. What was actually going on there?