Originally posted by xmeat
hulks list conters everything of flash nuff said bucko
Then show us his list "Bucko"
He has never beaten someone as fast as Flash,he has never beaten anyone as Fast and strong as SPB and he has never beaten someone as Versatile and willing to use their versatility like ZUM and Zoom is even faster than Flash so Hulk loses,big time.
The thing is... There's nothing Hulk can really do. If he hits the ground and causes an earthquake, Flash be percieving and moving so fast that if he just stood there he could easily adjust his footing so he doesn't fall. If Hulk uses some kind of shockwave producing attack, Flash can take the juice out of it with his powers of speed. If Hulk takes a swing, Flash will be going so fast that he could climb up Hulk and slowly ride his arm to where he used to be.
Originally posted by Jax_Jax
do you guys think flash at full potential, no mental avatars, can be on the same scale as people like silver surfer, and other herald beings.kinetic energy speed steel
imps
viabration
speedforce
time travel
dimension travel
???
I think Runner beat SS. Flash has more powers but not as much speed he'd probably land around low - mid level herald
flash has more speed than ss.
ss has cosmic speed, but flash's speed is limitless.
the faster he goes, the more speed he gains.
so you think runner beats flash?? in a race.
(flash has been known to be across the universe, in two diff planets, fighting two diff sets of monsters. at the same time. runnig back and forth hitting them with what i guess would have beem imps.
i dont think runner is faster than the god of kinetic energy.
but thats my opinion,... you?
Originally posted by xmeat
big deal
Big deal?
Any of those (Zoom, the WM, and SBPrime) would make the Hulk seem like a joke.
Two of them (Zoom and SBP) wouldn't even see the Hulk as a threat at any level (no matter how angry the Hulk got).
And Superboy Prime would simply wipe the Hulk from existence (in several ways, my favorite being his reality-warping punches).
Honestly XMeat, two things are very apparent. Actually make that three.
1) You are a Hulk fanboy (which by itself is not a bad thing ....after all the Hulk is a major character, and not only in comics but also from a literally perspective. It denotes the evolution of ancient myth, primarily tales of people who would channel savage beasts due to stress or emotion or love or even mystical cases like Lycanthropy; then mixes those stories with classic literature, in this case the story of Dr.Jekyl and Mr. Hyde, whereby a mild-man would suddenly find himself transformed into a monster; and then that is meshed with early-mid 20th century science fiction, in this case stemming from the whole Gamma radiation burst that turned Banner into the Hulk. Thus the Hulk is a very intricate and rich character, and being his fanboy is not necessarily a bad thing. It just becomes bad when it makes someone degenerate from a fanboy into a sopping idiot)
2) You do not know much about other characters. For you to say 'big deal' to someone like SBP simply shows that you don't know who he is. Or who Zoom is. Or what a White Martian can do. OR for that matter the sheer extent of the Flash's powersets. You don't know about other characters. Which is the major problem with fanboys ....it is not that they are fanboys per se, but that they are so into their character that for all intents and purposes they are blind (more like myopic) to all logic and sense. This is why you see certain people thinking Wolverine can defeat Superman and/or Thor in a non-PIS/CIS match. Their lack of knowledge on other characters (and lack of sense and logic) makes them say things that to everyone else is pure silliness.
3) The third thing is that you are not very good when it comes to logic. Although probably in your case it is due to age (must be, because if it was due to mental atrophy I doubt you'd be able to be on the net posting stuff). Thus it is somewhat understandable, because when i was around 10 years old I tended to believe that no one could defeat Spiderman (yep, I used to be a Spidey fanboy). At that age no one could convince me otherwise.
Thus it is probably the same for you ....at 10 years old (based on your logic, and your posting style and diction ability, I'd place you around 10 years old) you probably think that the Hulk is the greatest thing since sliced bread! Actually far better than sliced bread.
Thus it is alright (which is why I am not really going after you in the same manner I'd go after other fanboy luminaries like G.... and W ...88).
And since you are young it is alright for you to believe that, in the same way that a kid should be allowed to believe in the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, and ol' Saint Nick.
Actually let me do something .....just for you .....the Hulk wins!
He smashes the Flash, smashes Superman, smashes the Silver Surfer.
He then goes to hell and smashes Mephisto, before going to the Dreamworld and smashing the Dreaming (and if he catches Lucifer then he also smashes him).
Then he jumps down a random rabbit hole and smashes the entire kingdom of Wonderland that Alice had gone to.
After which he takes a nap, a snack, and a bath ....before ....
Going to heaven and smashing the angels (for not singing 'Hulk smash' in unison with him).
Then he goes after the Living Tribunal and smashes him (he doesn't like people with 3 heads and shining eyes), finds where the Spectre is and smashes him (he doesn't like his green cloak since the Hulk, even when smashing, gets jealous).
Then he smashes the Beyonder, smashes Bat-mite and MR.Mxy, smashes Psi-Lord for creating a pocket universe with a 'Smash Authorization' (TM), and smashes the Vishanti and the Lords of Order and Chaos.
Finally he smashes the entire MU and DCU.
Then smashes himself.
Hulk wins .....'coz the Hulk can SMASH!!!!
(Only one thing: Wolverine survives, because according to Wolverine8888 the Hulk cannot defeat Wolverine. Thus I guess the Hulk cannot win everything ....but at least the Hulk can smash ....)
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I think Runner beat SS. Flash has more powers but not as much speed he'd probably land around low - mid level herald
Flash is high herald level. Vibrations, Kinetic energy steal, Infinite Mass Punches, the Speed Formula, and an INSANE healing factor make him high herald.
Originally posted by Jax_Jaxthat's the stupidess shit i ever heard
where do you guys think flash stands on the poles.i mean, skyfather/street levler . where do you think he is, and wher do you think hulk is.
by the way, hulk bein strong means absolutley nothing. death itself couldnt catch flash. what makes you think hulk would?
Originally posted by xmeat
flash been tagged by to many people that should of never hit in the first place he isn't beating the hulk no, no but he can run away.
Several people have already answered that, but for some reason it is not getting through to you.
That was PIS/CIS .....logically speaking, there are very few people who should be able to tag the Flash. Virtually all of the showings where the Flash gets hit (be it by Gorilla Grodd or by Deathstroke) are pure BS. Now, Zoom hitting the Flash is another story, but the list gets terribly short after that.
It is like when the Hulk was kicked by Batman and the Hulk felt it to such an extent he gasped (thus inhaling the gas Batman had been trying to use against the Hulk). Now, does that mean the Hulk can feel the kick of a human?
In Kingdom (or was it Kingdom Come), the Flash is shown stopping crime all over the world at the same time. He simply runs so fast he is EVERYWHERE AT THE SAME TIME. That is what the Flash is capable of.
He could stop (as some other poster said) every crime, every fire, every typhoon, every accident, every kid dropping his lollipop, every dog crapping on the sidewalk ....everything, all over the world. In his comic book fights he would be finishing everything in one panel (and even in fights against similarly fast characters, like Zoom, they would also last one panel because both would be so fast it would be over as it began). However no one would be buying comic books whereby by the first panel everything is over!
That is why you see the Flash getting some stress from human gorillas and one-eyed mercenaries.
In KMC (read the rules) characters are not jobbing, there is no PIS/CIS, and they are out for the kill. In such a case there are not many characters (virtually none on DC Earth or MU Earth, unless you want to go into Deus Ex Machina character types) that can even SEE the Flash. The Flash would be moving so fast he could (ala Kingdom Come) take out an entire planet of people simply by moving so fast he was everywhere at the same time (and at the speed his mass would be infinite ....think of it this way, when he rescued 500,000 people in the Korean city by taking all of them, in ones and twos, out of a city that had a nuclear detonation taking place ....and doing all this in a fraction of a second, and remember he would have to find them, since they are scattered around the city, run with them to a far enough distance that they will not be harmed, and then go back for more ....well, when he finished that it was written that his eyes alone were at infinite mass. IMAGINE what would happen if he was running so fast he was everywhere at the same time! A slight brush against an opponent at such speeds and such mass would lead to that opponent ....even a whole planet of them .....simply being annihilated).
I don't expect that to make much sense to you, but it might be helpful if you read up on the KMC rules.