Why the hell would vibrating your hand really fast be an example of reflexes? It's not. You're moving, you're not reacting to a movement.
Why the hell would rotating your hand in a miniscule range of motion once upon a time even be relevant to swinging a punch? It isn't, they're not analogous motions.
Why the hell would the false extrapolated conclusion that being able to swing a punch at c/10,000 even be relevant to a fight against someone who moves can move at least 10,000× faster anyway and actually has corresponding reflexes? It's not, it's just a filibuster.
Why the hell would anyone think Hulk, whom someone like Spider-Man can be pretty plausibly depicted as dancing around him, can handle someone infinitely faster? Stupidity.
But Flash is obviously screwed, as Hulk will clearly be spinning around like Taz from Looney Toons firing off his magic Oan energy blasts, while concurrently warping time and space around him with his hitherto unknown Starheart powers to render Flash motionless and all his other abilities null.
Meanwhile:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=425959&pagenumber=1
Lulz. Captain America's faster than Hulk who can smash Flash!!1111!! ZOMGWTFBBQ!!111!
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Why the hell would vibrating your hand really fast be an example of reflexes? It's not. You're moving, you're not reacting to a movement.Why the hell would rotating your hand in a miniscule range of motion once upon a time even be relevant to swinging a punch? It isn't, they're not analogous motions.
Why the hell would the false extrapolated conclusion that being able to swing a punch at c/10,000 even be relevant to a fight against someone who moves can move at least 10,000× faster anyway and actually has corresponding reflexes? It's not, it's just a filibuster.
Why the hell would anyone think Hulk, whom someone like Spider-Man can be pretty plausibly depicted as dancing around him, can handle someone infinitely faster? Stupidity.
But Flash is obviously screwed, as Hulk will clearly be spinning around like Taz from Looney Toons firing off his magic Oan energy blasts, while concurrently warping time and space around him with his hitherto unknown Starheart powers to render Flash motionless and all his other abilities null.
Meanwhile:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=425959&pagenumber=1
Lulz. Captain America's faster than Hulk who can smash Flash!!1111!! ZOMGWTFBBQ!!111!
You dont have to react to movement in order to move fast you ahve to have fast reflexes.
http://www.helium.com/tm/232245/effects-exercise-speed-evident
This is a webpage about running it states that in order to increase your running speed you should increase your reflexes.
The faster your nerves send messages to your brain in response to the stimuli of moving quickly the faster you'll be able to react accordingly.
Note in response to the stimuli of moving quickly so that can be just simply moving quickly.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Last time I checked Hulk gets stronger not faster, quicker or smarter. Last time I check the Hulk Buster armor was built for power and durability, if Hulk can move at light speed then Tony sure did miss something there. 😆
In order to move fast you need both speed or power. Even if he just gets more powerful that will enable him to move faster. However I am of the opinion that he can get faster hell ive seen him react to all sorts of different stimuli when he gets angrier hell hes even grown lungs....no no no lungs dont give you lightspeed im just stating that the anger doesnt just have the affect of just making hims stronger.
Originally posted by AlfheimYou really have no idea what you are talking about, so you are now saying that when Hulk gets mad that his nervous system improves which allows him to move faster and improve his reflexes. Give me a break. Do you even know what stimuli means? Who do you think has better reflexes Bruce Lee or Mike Tyson?
You dont have to react to movement in order to move fast you ahve to have fast reflexes.http://www.helium.com/tm/232245/effects-exercise-speed-evident
This is a webpage about running it states that in order to increase your running speed you should increase your reflexes.
The faster your nerves send messages to your brain in response to the stimuli of moving quickly the faster you'll be able to react accordingly.
Note in response to the stimuli of moving quickly so that can be just simply moving quickly.
Originally posted by AlfheimGarble, gibble, hibblebob. <- About as coherent as your sentence.
You dont have to react to movement in order to move fast you ahve to have fast reflexes.
Obviously you don't have to react to movement to move fast. Yet here you are saying that to move fast means is indicative or reactive ability.
A reflex is reactive, a combination of both sensory and motor systems. Just taking into account the motor portion is fallacy.
Originally posted by AlfheimVisual and somatosensory afferent conduction is exactly the same as motor efferent conduction allowing rapid movement? Oh that's right, no.
http://www.helium.com/tm/232245/effects-exercise-speed-evidentThis is a webpage about running it states that in order to increase your running speed you should increase your reflexes.
The faster your nerves send messages to your brain in response to the stimuli of moving quickly the faster you'll be able to react accordingly.
Note in response to the stimuli of moving quickly so that can be just simply moving quickly.
The passage you quoted essentially says if your sensory reactive ability is better you'll be able to respond to sensory stimuli faster.
Well, no duh.
Additionally with running at a constant velocity, relative velocity means it's the same as you being stationary and your surroundings moving towards you, so more fallacy to an already false analogy.
Still has nothing to do with vibrating your hand a miniscule range of motion somehow equating to having superfast reactions.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
You really have no idea what you are talking about, so you are now saying that when Hulk gets mad that his nervous system improves which allows him to move faster and improve his reflexes.
Why not? His body adapts to all sorts of attacks and he didnt have problems dealing with Sentrys speed attacks. Completely ilogical I know.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Give me a break. Do you even know what stimuli means? Who do you think has better reflexes Bruce Lee or Mike Tyson?
Look dont start your nonsense, of course I know what simuli means. I mean this coming from the guy who said that boxers can punch at 72mph, therefore lets assume that if Hulk can move his hand at 1/9th the speed of light he cant react to it. What the hell has that got to do with anything its a thread about running obvoulsy you think that running doesnt need fast reflexes do you? The point is that it does. Its not a thread about dodging!
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Garble, gibble, hibblebob. <- About as coherent as your sentence.Obviously you don't have to react to movement to move fast. Yet here you are saying that to move fast means is indicative or reactive ability.
A reflex is reactive, a combination of both sensory and motor systems. Just taking into account the motor portion is fallacy.
Visual and somatosensory afferent conduction is exactly the same as motor efferent conduction allowing rapid movement? Oh that's right, no.
What I mean is that just that action of moving fast in itself needs fast reflexes. Ok?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The passage you quoted essentially says if your sensory reactive ability is better you'll be able to respond to sensory stimuli faster.Well, no duh.
Still has nothing to do with vibrating your hand a miniscule range of motion somehow equating to having superfast reactions.
Yes it does. Your brain will be calculating the speed at which your hand will be going and sending relevant signals to your hand to maintain that speed. If your brain needs to regulate the movement of your hand at high speed it will need fast reflexes.
What so if you move your hand theres no stimuli now?
Originally posted by AlfheimYou know nothing about boxing or martial arts in general, boxers do not react to the punch AFTER it is been thrown because by then it is to late and they get hit. They move before the punch has been thrown, they anticipate the movement of the boxer using their knowledge and skill. The same with Baseball, the batter is not reacting to the ball that is coming at them at 90 mph, they can barely even see it but through the combination of the movement of the pitcher and their reflex reactions are they able to hit it.
Why not? His body adapts to all sorts of attacks and he didnt have problems dealing with Sentrys speed attacks. Completely ilogical I know.Look dont start your nonsense, of course I know what simuli means. I mean this coming from the guy who said that boxers can punch at 72mph, therefore lets assume that if Hulk can move his hand at 1/9th the speed of light he cant react to it. What the hell has that got to do with anything its a thread about running obvoulsy you think that running doesnt need fast reflexes do you? The point is that it does. Its not a thread about dodging!
Again, Sentry wasn’t trying to dodge any of Hulks attacks. He was coming straight at him; Sentry was standing toe to toe and trading blows with Hulk. Hulk didn’t have to try and over come the speed, just withstand the power of his blows. Hulk has a hard enough time dealing with the likes of Spider-Man and Wolverine much less someone that is going a million times faster.
Originally posted by AlfheimWhich is false. A "reflex," in the colloquial of this board, generally incorporates reaction to exteroceptive visual, aural or somatosensory stimuli and then subsequent action.
What I mean is that just that action of moving fast in itself needs fast reflexes. Ok?
A fast reflexive movement will intuitively require a fast movement.
A fast movement will not necessarily require fast visual, aural or somatosensory reactions.
Originally posted by AlfheimYou're equating interoceptive proprioception to exteroceptive reaction. Hulk vibrated the vials fast, there was nothing to indicate any sort of angular velocital precision.
Yes it does. Your brain will be calculating the speed at which your hand will be going and sending relevant signals to your hand to maintain that speed. If your brain needs to regulate the movement of your hand at high speed it will need fast reflexes.
Equivocation. False analogy.
Wave your hand in front of your face as fast as you can and see what happens.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
You know nothing about boxing or martial arts in general, boxers do not react to the punch AFTER it is been thrown because by then it is to late and they get hit. They move before the punch has been thrown, they anticipate the movement of the boxer using their knowledge and skill. The same with Baseball, the batter is not reacting to the ball that is coming at them at 90 mph, they can barely even see it but through the combination of the movement of the pitcher and their reflex reactions are they able to hit it.
Ive boxed before actually. They dont always react before the punch has been thrown, so we cant assume that he cant react. Its debeteable.
Ive seen a 72mph punch didnt look that fast to me
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Again, Sentry wasn’t trying to dodge any of Hulks attacks. He was coming straight at him; Sentry was standing toe to toe and trading blows with Hulk. Hulk didn’t have to try and over come the speed, just withstand the power of his blows.
That does not apply to when he charged him, his objective was to hit him as hard and fast as possible.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Hulk has a hard enough time dealing with the likes of Spider-Man and Wolverine much less someone that is going a million times faster.
Ok if you want to use that argument Hulk didnt have any problem hitting Hyperion. I can show you scans right ***ing now stating that Hyperion can react in nanoseconds. Hulk stomped him.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Which is false. A "reflex," in the colloquial of this board, generally incorporates reaction to exteroceptive visual, aural or somatosensory stimuli and then subsequent action.A fast reflexive movement will intuitively require a fast movement.
A fast movement will not necessarily require fast visual, aural or somatosensory reactions.
You're equating interoceptive proprioception to exteroceptive reaction. Hulk vibrated the vials fast, there was nothing to indicate any sort of angular velocital precision.Equivocation. False analogy.
Wave your hand in front of your face as fast as you can and see what happens.
Ok so if you move your hand then your brain doesnt try to regulate the speed? Got it. 👆
Looks like Hulk side stepped this 😕
Originally posted by AlfheimLulz at the inept response and further lulz at the smugness in spite of the ineptitude. Did you even try and do what I suggested. Wave your hand in front of your face as fast as you can, and tell me what happens.
Ok so if you move your hand then your brain doesnt try to regulate the speed? Got it. 👆
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Looks like Hulk side stepped this 😕
You see this is your problem you pick and choose the arguments you like. There are two scans of WWH getting hit by Sentry and another of him reacting to it. In your mind the fact that he got hit negates the fact that he was able to respond in the other instance.
Not only that, this is a more powerful Sentry, when Sentry is more powerful he has better feats. Thats why his feats vary from having trouble ithw IM to pawning Terrax.
In this case he was more powerful so we can assume that he was travellign faster than normal.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Lulz at the inept response and further lulz at the smugness in spite of the ineptitude. Did you even try and do what I suggested. Wave your hand in front of your face as fast as you can, and tell me what happens.
Did you answer my question? Hell im not the one who said there was no sonic boom and therefore he wasnt travlleing fast, dont be a hypocrite.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Both characters fighting at their best Flash is untouchable when fighting the Hulk. The claim that Flash can't harm the Hulk is crazy we know he can.
Im just saying that I think Hulk can get some hits. Hel he doesnt een always fight at light speed.
Originally posted by AlfheimYes. Interoceptive sensory perception does not equate to exteroceptive sensory perception. Therefore Huc vibrating his hand really fast is irrelevant, unless he somehow has Golgi tendon organs inside Flash. It's just not in my post because I quoted you before you edited.
Did you answer my question?
Now answer mine. Wave your hand in front of your face as fast as you can. What do you see? 🙂
