NJO Luke vs. Nihilus . . . DESCRIPTION INSIDE.

Started by ESB Vader13 pages

what would nihilus do? he would already have drained or stunned luke before he did anything. if luke removes himself from the force, nihilus would stun him then cut him with a lightsaber.

for luke to kill nihilus he would have to use green lightning as his first move, and if he does that there would be a delay and that is when he lifts his hand up while nihilus force drain can be done standing still and doing nothing.

ok the thing is the last thing luke is going to want to do is to remove himself from the force or alter the gravity because doing that would give nihilus the upperhand of winning the fight.

lukes best chance is green lightning and not anything else, nihilus cant be cut from the force because he is already a wound.

"Aside of this Luke can create "loops" in the force at will. Technically he can create some force field that keeps feeding Nihilus meaning the drain would again not effect him."
-from borbarad

how is he gonna do that if nihilus uses the force drain as his first attack? he is stunned, no matter how powerful luke is he cant move or do anything. nihilus did that to an entire planet full of jedis
and even tho luke is at a higher level he still effects him,

even a simple stun effects luke allowing nihilus to attack with a saber and even if the stun is only a split second, luke will already be finished.

so as i say lukes best and only chance is to zap him with green lightning where nihilus completely has no defense against.

the force drain may not seem like an instant kill but it is, remember kreia doing it on the 3 jedi masters? she did it at a lower level and once it hit them which is incredibly fast, they are already dead but the force still getting sucked out from them

dammit couldnt edit my post, sry if i had to type here.

ok now since nihilus sees through the force and luke cuts himself off its a big problem for nihilus. from a distance luke is the winner in this scenerio but a head to head battle where nihilus can see luke physically
the tables would be turned

No, not really...considering WITHOUT the force, Luke is fast and skilled enough to decimate an army of elite warriors.

And stop saying Ni would drain or stun Luke before he did anything. Luke is good enough to have a counter/resistance to both those and is much, much faster than Nihilus.

And Luke has a defense against being stunned, too. And if Ni uses drain, Luke would counter it with a loop right off...one of his masters was PALPATINE who taught him a LOT of what he knew. No, it wouldn't affect Luke, same way it didn't affect the Exile, because Luke has disconnected and put himself back before, same as the Exile.

And no, Kreia made it an instakill. Luke is stronger than those three masters combined.

Serioyus, ESB Vader, quit the Nihilus fanboyism, he's got no chance against Luke. Luke has a defense against just about everything, including stun and force drain, and given how fast he is, he'll pull out attacks before Ni can react...that stun? It won't work.

If Ni tries to feed off Luke when he disconnects, it'll weaken him. Long enough for Luke to reconnect and destroy him. Nihilus has nothing Luke can't defend against and Luke has been shown to counter just about anything thrown at him in an instant

again lightsnake, unless you can conclusively prove that Luke could loop in and out quicker than Nihilus can "eat" him, there is a possibility that Nihilus could use it on him, so once again you don't have an argument with your "omgz Luke knew everything" theory.

fanboyism? me? what bs r u talking about?? Luke has a GREAT resistence to stun not immune to it and didnt you know his force drain is a life drain too? so what if luke makes a loops? it still TOUCHES him, instead of draning the force it Drains his life.

you are talking as if luke is untoucheble and no1 can even put a fight against him,

do i have to repeat myself? lukes only chance of winning is thru green lightning or chop him with his "20" lightsabers.

and creating a force loop only makes him un detectable, what defense does it do against a force drain? the force drain targets the victim not the force aura aound him, use ur common sense lol .
removing him self from the force only allos him not to be detected
and i dont see how its gonna block out a force drain or a life drain.

how many times do i have to say it? visas mentioned nihilus would have destroyed over a thousand planets had the exile not defeat nihilus. and kreia talking about nihilus abilities also proves another thing, that it is the greatest of the sith teachings. wiki and wookiepedia says this too. u underestimate and u over rate luke far too much.

and if i was a fanboy i would say "o noooo! nihilus is tha man! he cant be beaten!" that kinda noob nonsense. just to let you know i love luke as much as nihilus and the mechanical vader and aswell as DE sidious.

i dont use fanboy crap as my arguements

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7 Nihilius

Why? Cuz he can suck the force out of Luke which will instantly kill him. And even if Luke has the foresight to cut himself off from the force, (Which, he wouldn't have since he mostl ikely has never heard of Nihilius) Nihilius WTFPWNS!!111!!! Luke.

Originally posted by ESB Vader
fanboyism? me? what bs r u talking about?? Luke has a GREAT resistence to stun not immune to it and didnt you know his force drain is a life drain too? so what if luke makes a loops? it still TOUCHES him, instead of draning the force it Drains his life.

you are talking as if luke is untoucheble and no1 can even put a fight against him,

do i have to repeat myself? lukes only chance of winning is thru green lightning or chop him with his "20" lightsabers.

and creating a force loop only makes him un detectable, what defense does it do against a force drain? the force drain targets the victim not the force aura aound him, use ur common sense lol .
removing him self from the force only allos him not to be detected
and i dont see how its gonna block out a force drain or a life drain.

how many times do i have to say it? visas mentioned nihilus would have destroyed over a thousand planets had the exile not defeat nihilus. and kreia talking about nihilus abilities also proves another thing, that it is the greatest of the sith teachings. wiki and wookiepedia says this too. u underestimate and u over rate luke far too much.

and if i was a fanboy i would say "o noooo! nihilus is tha man! he cant be beaten!" that kinda noob nonsense. just to let you know i love luke as much as nihilus and the mechanical vader and aswell as DE sidious.

i dont use fanboy crap as my arguements

I was talking to Lightsnake.

i wasnt talking to u sexy i was talking to lightsnake, sry forgot to quote

Immune? No. Of course he can block it, resist it...he's much stronger than Ni. And a force loop would keep the drain from touching him.
The force drain'll only work if it finds someone in the force, too.

And I don't care what Visas said, Luke was not around then and noone at that time was as strong as him. And Palpatine knew all of what Ni did and more. Luke's power increased threefold in the short time with Palpatine as his master.

Nihilus has absolutely no chance. He's facing someone with a resistance and counter to everything he has, someone far stronger, faster and with a better reaction time.

How'll the stun work? Luke'll resist it or block it right off. Force Drain? Luke'll resist it, created a loop or cut himself off, leaving Nihilus on his knees, a broken shell of himself. A saber fight? Luke's faster enough to slice through dozens of warriors within SECONDS.

The drain isn't going to work, consideirng Luke, unlike the KOTOR people, has an actual defense. The stun? Luke'll simply resist it considering he's taken worse...by the time Ni goes for him with the stun, Luke'll have freed himself, and have hacked him into tiny pieces.

Nihilus loses. Badly

Originally posted by Himo
1-3 Nihilius
7 Nihilius

Why? Cuz he can suck the force out of Luke which will instantly kill him. And even if Luke has the foresight to cut himself off from the force, (Which, he wouldn't have since he mostl ikely has never heard of Nihilius) Nihilius WTFPWNS!!111!!! Luke.

Right, a famous figure in galactic history...

Joke post, hm?

joke post? lol ur the joke and u dont care what visas said?

ignoring CANON material? look whos the fanboy

and the force drain is controled by its user it doesnt simply "look for some1 in the force"

even if luke loops as i say it still WILL touch him because it attacks its victims physically and did u say kreia made it instakill?

well nihilus force drain is far above kreias force drain and its far quicker than the loop and prob faster than emrald lightning why? because the loop and the lightning has a DELAY a split second
and the force drain is Flawless and immediate,

o ya and do u think luke will use it IMMEDIATELY in battle? answer hell no because h doesnt know who the hell is he fighting right?

u think there r records of nihilus where luke can simply press on the key board but no1, not even revan, not even the old republi knew of his existence, not even malak knew

so why would he use it? luke is patient, he tests his opponent and that is a fatal mistake doing so

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Right, a famous figure in galactic history...

Joke post, hm?

No, he wouldn't be a famous figure. How many actually knew his name? How many knew what he looked like? And if there were records of him, they'd be long gone with the purge by Sidious. Nihilius would be a footnote at best.

What canon material? What Visas says means nothing to this. Like I said: there wasn't Luke back then, hm?

And no, you need to sense someone IN the force to use force drain. And no, it wasn't an instakill from Kreia, it took her several moments to actually kill the three and Luke, having a FAR greater ability than any of those three masters, would be able tor esist the drain. Especially considering he'll know what Ni is, given his intense studies of earlier times after the Exar Kun fiasco.

And nope, sorry, loop and all Fallanassi abilities are immediate as shown in the Black Fleet Trilogy, sorry.

Last I chcked, Nihilus takes time to prepare...he had to paralyze the Exile first...AND he was in orbit above Katarr for some time.

So, nope! Sorry! Luke's split second abilities waste Nihilus

see? just as i say no1 knows of his existence and he strikes from the shadows

Originally posted by Himo
No, he wouldn't be a famous figure. How many actually knew his name? How many knew what he looked like? And if there were records of him, they'd be long gone with the purge by Sidious. Nihilius would be a footnote at best.

Umm...everyone, considering he's mentioned in CLASSROOM LECTURES and GA HISTORY TEXTS?

So, sorry!

Originally posted by ESB Vader
see? just as i say no1 knows of his existence and he strikes from the shadows

Are you being dense on purpose?

Ni is mentioned int he chronology and Galactic Alliance History Lessons...he's quite well known

no wait a min! u just said kreia made it insta kill! u changing ur words?

and nihilus takes time to prepare? do u know why he stunned the exile? he was testing her, to know why she came to his ship,

and kreia didnt prepare before draining, u claim im a fanboy and im gonna provr ur 1, u alrdy prove to urself u are one.

and where did u get that bs? hes well known? u making up nonsense again? answer yes. nihilus was never ever mentioned in the novels and o? im being dumb for saying this?

Ni is mentioned int he chronology and Galactic Alliance History Lessons...he's quite well known- lightsnake.

known by whom?
after kriea died and the exile left known space no1 givs a damm who attackes telos and crippled the jedi order because what evers left felt the echos of nihilus death

Big deal, he still stunned her. And Kreia was yammering on at the masters for quite some time. She obviously was preparing ahead of time there.

And yes, Kreia made it an instakill...but it still held them for severla moments before killing them

And, in conclusion, as Luke has already been disconnected from the Force at earlier points in time, just like the Exile, would Nihilus's ability even work? Or would it backfire totally like the Exile?

You've yet to offer anything besides claiming Ni's attack is instant and infallible-which has no proof. And considering Luke's advanced danger senses and his instant reactions-which is described as instantaneous throughout numerous books...

Oh, by the way, could you get any more illiterate?

Originally posted by ESB Vader
and where did u get that bs? hes well known? u making up nonsense again? answer yes. nihilus was never ever mentioned in the novels and o? im being dumb for saying this?

Ni is mentioned int he chronology and Galactic Alliance History Lessons...he's quite well known- lightsnake.

known by whom?
after kriea died and the exile left known space no1 givs a damm who attackes telos and crippled the jedi order because what evers left felt the echos of nihilus death

No, he's not mentioned in the novelz. He's mentioned in the Visual Guide, Chronology and Hyperspace articles though...some of which are in universe sources by the time of the Galactic Alliance.

Oh, and Brianna. Atris. Mical. Visas...y'know, the people who rebuilt the Jedi Order?

Nice try though.