NJO Luke vs. Nihilus . . . DESCRIPTION INSIDE.

Originally posted by ESB Vader
he is mentioned IN REAL life books NOT in the star wars UNIVERSE. what usaying luke travles to a book store and read about nihilus?

Sorry, but this is blatant fanboyism...Luke's shown to be able to sense and react in no time at all-by lightsnake.

well well well look whos the fanboy here /points at lightsnake

Actually, you're wrong on that. He's mentioned in a book that is written from an in universe perspective. In other words, a book written by an actual Star Wars character, writing down history. So, if the man who wrote it, Voren Na'al, knew about Nihilus - it stands to reason that Nihilus was written down in a Star Wars history book or something. Adding to the fact that the man is from the New Republic, which is where Luke is from. Adding to the fact the guy is still alive when Luke is alive, and you can conclude that Luke could know of Nihilus.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
She witnessed his work on Katarr.

And once again:
Luke has an incredibly perceptive danger sense, able to feel exactly what someone's about to do...in his duel with Welk, he could see Welk's moves practically before Welk made then.
Luke has the ability to instantly cut himself off and defend himself
Luke's cut himself off to hide in the past, same as the Exile. Meaning Nihilus's technique might well backfire.
Luke is far faster than Nihilus.

Okay then, so he would know what an unknown ability that hasn't been used in thousands of years would feel like?

Doesn't matter about how fast he is. Think of Nihilius as a machine. If Luke came near him, he would instantaneously kill him with his ability. In this instance, Luke's incredible abilities is a disadvantage. Nihilius won't get shocked by Luke. Since Luke has most likely never heard of him, he won't have foresight to do anything. If his danger sense is instant and it shows exactly what will happen, it will confuse Luke more than help.

Lesse...several people who rebuilt the Jedi Order were known to have witnessed him firsthand? Visas for one? Hell, she took his mask even. That'd be a giveaway if the Jedi kept it in their Sith artifacts area.

The fact is: They knew about him and had records

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Sorry, doesn't work. And if he uses green lighning, Ni dies anyways. Point moot. And why;'s it impossible? Because you dislike Luke? Ok, Luke masks his presence from the start, then

And how are you going to prove that green lightning would work on a wound in the force like Nihilus? Haven't we had these discussions of Nihilus being able to eat/consume force attacks?

yea but the point is how did a dude 4000 years away from nihilus death get to know about him? lucasarts could have made that up saying the timeline came from this guy? u will never know because had nihilus been so well known even revan should know him in the first game

wait a min sexy i thought green lightning works on everything?

Originally posted by Himo
Okay then, so he would know what an unknown ability that hasn't been used in thousands of years would feel like?

Doesn't matter about how fast he is. Think of Nihilius as a machine. If Luke came near him, he would instantaneously kill him with his ability. In this instance, Luke's incredible abilities is a disadvantage. Nihilius won't get shocked by Luke. Since Luke has most likely never heard of him, he won't have foresight to do anything. If his danger sense is instant and it shows exactly what will happen, it will confuse Luke more than help.

And Luke hides himself off in the force, blindind Ni to him. Luke is ale to move faster than anyone's eye can perceive, meaning he'd slaughter Ni before he can react.

Since I've proven Ni is common knowledge by the GA era-mentioned in two sources as a Dark Lord- Luke will have heard of him, and Luke has knowledge of Nihilus's abilities and how to respond thanks to his tutelage from Palpatine...well, this's open and shut. Ni dies.

Originally posted by ESB Vader
yea but the point is how did a dude 4000 years away from nihilus death get to know about him? lucasarts could have made that up saying the timeline came from this guy? u will never know because had nihilus been so well known even revan should know him in the first game

Gee, how do they know about Marka Ragnos or Darth Bane?

Sorry, but it's an IN UNIVERSE SOURCE, meaning they know about Nihilus.

And green lightning would work on Nihilus. When do Exiles 'eat Force attacks?' Why didn't the Exile 'eat' the stun? Besides, Luke uses a plane of the force dark siders can never reach

sidious a master of it? lmfao since when sidious became a master of the force drain technique? dont u know nihilus force technique sucks life outta you? sidous has learnt many techniques and they r not even 1/4 as much as the ancient sith, the true users of the ancient techniques

they know about nihilus? how EXACTLY? the exile took the mask and fled into unknown space looking for revan, it hasnt been said how exactly they know about him but atm we assume they dont

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Lesse...several people who rebuilt the Jedi Order were known to have witnessed him firsthand? Visas for one? Hell, she took his mask even. That'd be a giveaway if the Jedi kept it in their Sith artifacts area.

The fact is: They knew about him and had records

Okay. Point dropped. Luke's heard about him. Now, advent, cna you tell me if the man in the stroy talks about the destruction of Katarr? Does he mention how it's accomplished?

Nihilus drained more than 1 planet, but Katarr was the known one since it was the meeting place of the Jedi.

Originally posted by ESB Vader
sidious a master of it? lmfao since when sidious became a master of the force drain technique? dont u know nihilus force technique sucks life outta you? sidous has learnt many techniques and they r not even 1/4 as much as the ancient sith, the true users of the ancient techniques

Palpatine learned EVERYTHING. It's canonically stated. Do you not understand? He learned EVERYTHING the Ancients and Jedi knew and created his own abilities. Got it? Directly, canonically stated.

Originally posted by Himo
Okay. Point dropped. Luke's heard about him. Now, advent, cna you tell me if the man in the stroy talks about the destruction of Katarr? Does he mention how it's accomplished?

Katarr's destruction isn't mentioned, but its devastation is mention in the visual guide

Originally posted by ESB Vader
sidious a master of it? lmfao since when sidious became a master of the force drain technique? dont u know nihilus force technique sucks life outta you? sidous has learnt many techniques and they r not even 1/4 as much as the ancient sith, the true users of the ancient techniques

What? Sidious knows far more than the Ancient Sith. He's knows every technique there is.

yes lightsnake but lucasarts made nihilus force drain different and on an astronomical scale. if sexy is right about green lighting not affecting nihilus then he can win with his lightsaber

I'm afraid Palpatine's was on the same scale as he ALSO drain planets. He drained Byss, remember? In moderation, but he still drained millions, if not billions.

And LA made it so Palpatine knows far more than the Ancient Sith

every technique? u sure advent he didnt even learn to blow up a star he did learn most of them but he didnt master them, he couldnt even master his force strom properly and luke disrupted it causing his own powers to kill him

draining plantes doesnt mean the same scale as nihilus, nihlus was insta kill and sidious took time lots of it while nihilus is instant

For the last time: They used SHIPS to destroy stars, they didn't do it on their own.
And no, it says he did 'master' them.
And no, he mastered his force storm. Luke and Leia used the entire light side to cut him off from the force. That kinda hurts your control.
To quote: He had mastered the great power in all its guises and all its traditions. He had mastered all known, previously unknown and forgotten powers and devises new ones at his leisure

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Katarr's destruction isn't mentioned, but its devastation is mention in the visual guide

So how would Luke know what Nihilius would do? If it is not mentioned how Nihilius did it, than it's irrelevant to the situation. I've seen the ruins of Machu Picchu but do I know how the Incans did it? No. Unless it directly states how Nihilius did it, Luke won't know what's coming. Nihilius's force drain is different from Sidious's. Nihilius is a wound in the force, and therefore does not use the same technique as Sidious, who is a regualr force user.