he still stunned her? has it got anything to do with why he drained her? u keep changing ur words and r u talking non canon in fo again?
since when kreia prepares her attacks by yapping at people? she was telling the jedi masters the reasons blah blah
and u played kotor2 didnt you? his attack is instant if not how would he have crippled the jedi order single handed?
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Big deal, he still stunned her. And Kreia was yammering on at the masters for quite some time. She obviously was preparing ahead of time there.And yes, Kreia made it an instakill...but it still held them for severla moments before killing them
And, in conclusion, as Luke has already been disconnected from the Force at earlier points in time, just like the Exile, would Nihilus's ability even work? Or would it backfire totally like the Exile?
You've yet to offer anything besides claiming Ni's attack is instant and infallible-which has no proof. And considering Luke's advanced danger senses and his instant reactions-which is described as instantaneous throughout numerous books...
Oh, by the way, could you get any more illiterate?
Proof would be the fact Nihilius force drained an entire world. Now, if you can do that, I think you'll be able to force drain a man who's never heard of you and has no idea how to defend against.
Even with a danger sense, Luke wouldn't EXACTLY what Nihilius was going to do. Cutting yourself off from the force takes moe a few moments, which time enough for Nihilius to kill him.
And keep it civil. If he doesn't want to take the time to write well, let him be. You can understand it, so he really isn't illiterate.
hehehe atris mical brianna dont even know how nihilus looks like nor know his powers, u really are yammering some fairy tales lightsnake,
and do u know what a delay is when using the force?
heres an example- luke doing green lightning, he HAS to lift his hand up then zap his opponent.\
heres look making a loop.
he takes a deep breath and focus removing himself
all that takes no less that 4 seconds
Non canon info? Opph, sorry, but Hyperspace and the NEC are quite canon, thanks. And he stunned her before her drained her...even when she told him to feed on her, her still had to raise his hand towards her. So, this shows he apparently needs a moment and needs his victim immobilized. Neither of which'll happen with Luke
And Kreia was preparing the attack WHILE she was talking...she obviously intended to kill them when she walked in.
and maybe because the time he encoutnered the order was on Katarr when they were, y'know, trapped onworld? Sion's assassins had a large point in it...that the Jedi were beaten after being weakned and harried...your point?
Originally posted by Himo
Proof would be the fact Nihilius force drained an entire world. Now, if you can do that, I think you'll be able to force drain a man who's never heard of you and has no idea how to defend against.Even with a danger sense, Luke wouldn't EXACTLY what Nihilius was going to do. Cutting yourself off from the force takes moe a few moments, which time enough for Nihilius to kill him.
And keep it civil. If he doesn't want to take the time to write well, let him be. You can understand it, so he really isn't illiterate.
I have nothing but contempt for when people write 'one' as '1'.
It shows he has no respect for other posters.
And Luke would be warned in the force as he'd recognize the attack. And no, cutting osnelf off is INSTANTANEOUS and has been shown twice. Luke can cut an ENTIRE PLANET off under a cloak in a second, that's it.
Luke feels Ni prepping a drain, he counters it or kills Ni right off and he's strong enough to do that. Why do people keep using false info? Got it? Instant.
Oh, and considering Nihilus is well known enough to be mention in galactic records...well, that shoots that point down.
atris? atris never ever met nihilus before and if she did shes finished 😄
she only has a brief idea not knowing whos she dealing with
every sith who walks in on their enemies intend to kill, apprently u dont know that
and he raising his hand? u really dont know do you? lukes first reaction is to see what he does because as YOU say he has a high resistance to sevral force attacks which again proves fatal. and also didnt you see kreia doing it standing there? nihilus was taking his time
Originally posted by Lightsnake
I have nothing but contempt for when people write 'one' as '1'.
It shows he has no respect for other posters.And Luke would be warned in the force as he'd recognize the attack. And no, cutting osnelf off is INSTANTANEOUS and has been shown twice. Luke can cut an ENTIRE PLANET off under a cloak in a second, that's it.
Luke feels Ni prepping a drain, he counters it or kills Ni right off and he's strong enough to do that. Why do people keep using false info? Got it? Instant.
Oh, and considering Nihilus is well known enough to be mention in galactic records...well, that shoots that point down.
How would he recognize the attack? If you can give me proof that he can tell exactly what's going to happen with the danger sense, I'll give you that point.
Again, how would he counter it? Cutting himself off from force, again, won't work until you can prove his danger sense can tell him what exactly is coming.
Where is he mentioned? Show me, and I'll drop the point.
how many times do i have to say? there is no record of nihilus existence and luke being warned that nihilus is gonna drain him? sry but that wont happen because the drain is as fast as his lighting and luke will have no time to react.
and if he tries 2 sense nihilus attack it proves fatal again because of the small moments wasted
She witnessed his work on Katarr.
And once again:
Luke has an incredibly perceptive danger sense, able to feel exactly what someone's about to do...in his duel with Welk, he could see Welk's moves practically before Welk made then.
Luke has the ability to instantly cut himself off and defend himself
Luke's cut himself off to hide in the past, same as the Exile. Meaning Nihilus's technique might well backfire.
Luke is far faster than Nihilus.
Originally posted by ESB Vader
how many times do i have to say? there is no record of nihilus existence and luke being warned that nihilus is gonna drain him? sry but that wont happen because the drain is as fast as his lighting and luke will have no time to react.and if he tries 2 sense nihilus attack it proves fatal again because of the small moments wasted
And YES there's a record of Ni's existence because he's mentioned in IN UNIVERSE SOURCES, do you have selective hearing?
And Luke's faster than lightning! Does 'instantaneous' mean nothing to you?
Sorry, but this is blatant fanboyism...Luke's shown to be able to sense and react in no time at all
do i need to mention nihilus covers his next attack? he maskes his presence and it is impossible for luke to sense nihilus attack at a start to a head to head fight. why? because luke has no time to do so
and this is the 100th time im saying lukes best chance is green lightning not some stupid loop, not some lame sensing which ALL jedi and sith have
he is mentioned IN REAL life books NOT in the star wars UNIVERSE. what usaying luke travles to a book store and read about nihilus?
Sorry, but this is blatant fanboyism...Luke's shown to be able to sense and react in no time at all-by lightsnake.
well well well look whos the fanboy here /points at lightsnake
Originally posted by Himo
Where is he mentioned? Show me, and I'll drop the point.
He's mentioned in the New Essential Chronology, which is written from an in universe perspective, ergo there has to be records on Nihilus for someone to write about it. And not surprisingly, the "character" who wrote the NEC is from Luke's era, and he was even part of the New Republic.
Originally posted by Himo
How would he recognize the attack? If you can give me proof that he can tell exactly what's going to happen with the danger sense, I'll give you that point.Again, how would he counter it? Cutting himself off from force, again, won't work until you can prove his danger sense can tell him what exactly is coming.
Where is he mentioned? Show me, and I'll drop the point.
He trained under Darth Sidious who taught him sith secrets, showed him the draining of Byss and during several fights with Luke he's able to see exactly what will happen and react accordingly...in his duel with Welk, a Dark Jedi able to take on Jedi Masters, Luke kills him in moments. It's the same as Mace's shatterpoint in that it takes no time, nor effort at all. It just happens and Luke reacts accordingly.
And Luke's been cut off from the Force before. It takes him no time t do so and since he's done it already, Ni's abilities would hardly work. It'd be like if he tried draining the Exile.
Nihilus is mentioned in the Visual Guide and in the galactic records in the Essential Chronology and in the lecture in 'Evil Never Dies: The Sith Dynasties
Originally posted by ESB Vader
do i need to mention nihilus covers his next attack? he maskes his presence and it is impossible for luke to sense nihilus attack at a start to a head to head fight. why? because luke has no time to do soand this is the 100th time im saying lukes best chance is green lightning not some stupid loop, not some lame sensing which ALL jedi and sith have
Sorry, doesn't work. And if he uses green lighning, Ni dies anyways. Point moot. And why;'s it impossible? Because you dislike Luke? Ok, Luke masks his presence from the start, then
hmm isnt the chronology written by lucasarts or the authors? i dont get ur point advent, what do u mean
dude u said nihilus records in the sw universe not RL of course there r sources of him in books
i dislike luke? no i dont, i love him big time honestly.
green lightning is fast and just as fast as force drain, isnt both of them instant kill? that would kill both of them if both of them use it at the exact moment
Originally posted by ESB Vader
he is mentioned IN REAL life books NOT in the star wars UNIVERSE. what usaying luke travles to a book store and read about nihilus?Sorry, but this is blatant fanboyism...Luke's shown to be able to sense and react in no time at all-by lightsnake.
well well well look whos the fanboy here /points at lightsnake
No, he's mentioned in IN UNIVERSE SOURCES, sorry!
Evil Never Dies? In universe sources
New Essential Chronology? In Universe Source