Mace Wundu versus Darth Maul and Darth Vader

Started by zephiel74 pages

I feel Windu takes this.

In the cave of despair, there would far too little space for Vader and Maul to cohesively work as a unit.

This also means that Maul's acrobatics won't save him from Windu. Mace could easily use his shatter point ability to take down Maul.

Vader's choke would be a problem, but Mace could use force crush to counter this (screw up Vader's life support system). He is also Maul's superiour in force techniques so he could throw Maul around without any difficulty.

The duo could pull it off but I doubt it. I would put it at 60/40

lol life support system 馃檪

ok he's the facts, if somehow maul and vader are able to work as a team, they'd have to stay on opposite sides or vader choke and mauls fight or whatever they stand a decent chance of beating windu
But i suspect like all sith they uise the brawn over brain approach (except maybe sidious) is what i would expect, resulting is windu's win

A Windu being hit in the face by dirt, rocks, trees/roots and small animals couldn't beat Maul in a lightsaber fight.

It would be a difficult fight, especially due to the setting. But I feel Windu loses this.

windu wins. not just because hes my fav' but because he uses the hardest form to master, is close to the darkside and is the better swordsman. mauls saber would be to akward and vader uses wide and powerful swings which means that mace has the saber advantage.

he could beat maul, who DOES use vapaad but not to such a high level. as for vader, a half dead cyborg man, even if he was faster and more powerful, mace would take his arm as payback (and maybe a leg), as for force, vader can only really use force choak and mace could use force crush to counter.

MACE WINS!!!!

windu wins. not just because hes my fav' but because he uses the hardest form to master, is close to the darkside and is the better swordsman. mauls saber would be to akward and vader uses wide and powerful swings which means that mace has the saber advantage.

You're correct in a way. However, if Vader's Djem So + Vader's strength, the power generated by the attack could overwhelm Mace, just like it did to Dooku. Plus Vader can do, like he did in ESB, fight with one hand and throw objects at Mace. I think Mace would kill Maul and then lose barely to Vader. Maul could just be a physical distraction before Vader.

However, Mace can do Force Crush to burst Vader open. However, the Sith master would try to block that by swing a rock at Mace or something.

It's a close one.

nah, i figure vader woud do what he did to luke in ESB while maul fights him saber to saber, windu's unmatchable in his time period for saber but he's not that great

Originally posted by Sith Lord Windu
windu wins. not just because hes my fav'
is close to the darkside
maul, who DOES use vapaad
as for vader, a half dead cyborg man
force choak
MACE WINS!!!!

Yay for your credibility.

Anyway, Maul and Vader stomp all over him.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Anyway, Maul and Vader stomp all over him.

Care to back up this unproven statement?

I really would, give me a little while, star wars comics isn't working right now...

Originally posted by jollyjim311
I really would, give me a little while, star wars comics isn't working right now...

Ah, I see.

Come on, give the big black man the credit he is due.

I'm trying to imagine this fight in my head...Vader in suit plus double-saber wielding Maul. It seems a little too much for Mace to handle.
It looks like we'll have to look at each dueler in turn:
Vader - ok he has beaten a LOT of jedi [in suit TV series will reveal] and though he beat Dooku b4 suit I reckon he could do it with suit - mayb me harder or may be easier - I can see Dooku being suit Vader's equal or inferior]. He has 80% Sidious' power according to Lucas and it gets complex again as we don't know for sure whether Mace DID beat Sidious in that duel. I'm sure Lucas says he did in DVD commentary or some other place - and I think after reading shatterpoint that Mace's Vaapad makes him a upper level [but not very high like Yoda] jedi when it comes to strength - same as Vader nearly and an extra great swordsman.
I can see Mace having difficulty as I reckon his problem would come in fending off 3 red baldes with his just one. I read somewhere that at Battle of Geonosis he fought many armed Grievous and couldn't overpower him in saber duel [which is why he crushed his chest later]. Then again he as tired after all that fighting.... And Ani did cut his arm off when he was about to strike Palps down - BUT he was off gaurd - all the same I feel that Mace isn't totally competent in fighting multiple blades.
However maybe Maul's double bladed saber would make it difficult for him and Vader to co-operate well together? It woudl get in his way - hes a big guy after all!
Maul - well neither Qui-Gon or TMP Kenobi could beat him in fair fight [he was killed for underestimating Kenobi and caught off-guard etc]. I wonder if Qui-Gon died deliberately so Maul would lose to Kenobi and Kenobi would train Ani but I've not read novel so I wouldn't know and part of me is sure Maul beat him fair and square. Qui-Gon was so I've heard on par with Mace during their training though I wonder if this is BEFORE Mace mastered Vaapad. So maybe Qui-Gon isn't really a good match. Vader did however beat Maul when he was brought back to life and so Vader would be the bigger threat.
Mace himself as I've said would be nearly as physically strong as Vader and certainly stronger than Maul and his Vaapad would return the darkness the 2 sith fire at him back to them and also his shatterpoint. He could sense the vectors that make up Vader's suit and use minimal energy to exploit it...
Hmmm VERY difficult. I'd have to say I just don't know. For some reason I can see Mace having too much to handle here BUT I can also see him coming out victorious using the things I thought were pitted against him to his advantage. I'm most inclined to say Mace wins with great difficulty

Oh and I should also mention in Mace's defence that Vader in suit was beaten by Luke who I am pretty sure has no where NEAR the level of skill Mace has - though he is skilled and was using his rage etc.

Originally posted by zephiel7
Ah, I see.

Come on, give the big black man the credit he is due.

Of course I'll give Vader the credit he is due.

LMAO!!!

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Of course I'll give Vader the credit he is due.

Vader is a wigger.

He is a white man trying to be black.

Mace is a poser.

He tries to be all bad-ass, but he's a peace lovin' hug preachin', field skippin' virgin.

馃槅

Is this ROTS Vader? If so then the Sith win. Vader alone would give him trouble - Vader's faster, as astrong physically and has more energy. Mace has Vaapad, which is good against Dark Siders, has more experience and is stronger with the Force so he alone'd beat Vader but with Maul there, well, Maul alone is about as fast as Mace and his saber skills arn't far behind. If nothing else Mace loses because he would get tired before either of the Sith would. Maul might die, though, and would most likely get hurt as a minimum.