Originally posted by manjaro
all i see is IM desperately trying to keep a rampaging Namor at bay and resorting to cheap tricks to subdue him
Cheap tricks, eh? 🙄
That's what makes Tony Stark/Iron Man so great. It's his wits and ingenuity that make him who he is. It's his intellect and technological skill and his ability to think on the move that makes him able to hang with guys like Thor, the Hulk, and Namor.
The bottom line is that Iron Man had the savvy and smarts to beat Namor in his home turf: the water.
Originally posted by manjaro
black bolt didnt need any fancy specialzed armor to take on thor
That's because Tony Stark is merely a human.
A human who can go toe-to-toe with a god and hold his own.
Yeah, Stark is really gonna take on Thor in his pajamas. 🙄
Originally posted by Darth Vegas
Cheap tricks, eh? 🙄That's what makes Tony Stark/Iron Man so great. It's his wits and ingenuity that make him who he is. It's his intellect and technological skill and his ability to think on the move that makes him able to hang with guys like Thor, the Hulk, and Namor.
The bottom line is that Iron Man had the savvy and smarts to beat Namor in his home turf: the water.
That's because Tony Stark is merely a human.
A human who can go toe-to-toe with a god and hold his own.
Yeah, Stark is really gonna take on Thor in his pajamas. 🙄
which is a good showing and im not taking his feats away from him, but BB is a whole differnt animal. and he's got smarts and savvy coming out the ass too
Originally posted by manjaro
whats the master blow you ask...thats when he charges energy into his fist and pucnh the shit outta somebody........like Iron first times 1000..only the most durable can receieve it and live..even ben says it feels like "being booted around by the hulk"
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That page kind of contradicts what you were trying to fight for with BB. Karnak said to BB that Ben was too strong for him and the only way he could win was to use the master punch. Which he did and he charged it up so much that he KO'd himself while Ben was actually in better shape than BB himself.
So in that one page it shows that BB is not as strong as Ben who at the time was CL85. And that when charging his master punch to it's fullest he couldn't KO Ben and he KO'd himself Karnak had to catch him from hitting the ground.
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actually i posted it in that fashion that perhaps some would read the entirety of the pic before it where medusa says he's charging up for his master blow. when he was fighting namor...you know just in case somebody didnt know what the master blow was
, and antoher thing that should be gotten straight i never said that under normal circumstances he was physically stronger than thing hulk namor or thor..the whole contingent of this thread is h2h, and basically everything excpet his scream so i posted as many h2h feats i could find...the point was to show that he gave out and took massive hits from uber ppl without exploding into a million pieces,,,like when thor zapped him with lighting..iron man couldnt have taken that without dying...even if the suit remained mostly in tact, his body just wouldnt be able to withstand those forces.. cuz i can post other feats all day where he didnt even use his voice and still owned but its not h2h so i didnt. thats the main point...BB is stronger, more durable, more versatile, a better fighter, and a better tactician....
and anonter thing about IM thats a big mis conception . yeah his suit makes him lift 100 tons but not like....."ooooh look 100 tons!" *lift* he has to divert power to the particlar areas in his armor that facilitats lifting..BB would be all over his ass b4 you know it.. and another thing the Extremis virus just lets tony house the the inner layers like that yellow inter facing body suit in the hollows of his bones not the whole armor itslef.
in fact, the armor that he made just jump up outta the breif case was just a replacement for the one that mallen tore up cuz as you can see they were virtually identical..ergo the same way some enhacned red neck can rip thru his armor with his bare hands BB can do that too and more...
Originally posted by Tony Stark
[B]😎That page kind of contradicts what you were trying to fight for with BB. Karnak said to BB that Ben was too strong for him and the only way he could win was to use the master punch. Which he did and he charged it up so much that he KO'd himself while Ben was actually in better shape than BB himself.
So true but that's his earliest showings. IM's earliest showings aren't any better then that. IM was a walking clunk of iron.
It'll be a struggle but IM would loose to Black Bolt. Hand to hand Black Bolt is much better than IM because, unlike Tony, Black Bolt fights hand to hand more than his scream and other powers. Bolt's had one k.o. and that was only because Thor knocked out his antenna. BB's skills and durability are much better than Tony.
Originally posted by manjaroand anonter thing about IM thats a big mis conception . yeah his suit makes him lift 100 tons but not like....."ooooh look 100 tons!" *lift* he has to divert power to the particlar areas in his armor that facilitats lifting..BB would be all over his ass b4 you know it.. and another thing the Extremis virus just lets tony house the the inner layers like that yellow inter facing body suit in the hollows of his bones not the whole armor itslef.
in fact, the armor that he made just jump up outta the breif case was just a replacement for the one that mallen tore up cuz as you can see they were virtually identical..ergo the same way some enhacned red neck can rip thru his armor with his bare hands BB can do that too and more...
Around 100 tons would be under normal operating conditions, if Tony was to divert power from other systems, it'll be far above 100 tons.
Also, the new armor he used to take on Mallen the second time was an experimental armor. It's tougher, faster and lighter than the current unit.
So yeah, bet your ass this new experimental would own all previous models.
"enhacned red neck"? C'mon now, Iron Man has taken blows from the Hulk, Thor, and they didn't do what this Mallen did to Iron Man, not in a long shot even. That just goes to show that this Mallen was Insanely powerful.
EXTREMIS IM is way too fast for BB. Reactions to explosions at .004 seconds. BB wont have a chance. IM's pre-EXTREMIS base strength was 100 tons with the capabilities to increase to almost 2x that. With the EXTREMIS it's considerably more than that now... Even though this fight is restricted to being just H2H...
Why couldn't IM just absorb BB's Vocal powers and use it to juice up his armor even more so? He's done it with THOR's lightning, SS's PC...Etc. Why not BB's voice?
becuz bb voice isnt a surge of energy per se..thats why they call it a quasi sonic scream cuz once his voice goes out it rips the electrons from atomic particles cuasing them to violently explode..and once the first batch explodes it cuases a chain reaction to obliterate all the others in the direction of his voice.. so since there are literally millions if not billions of atoms flaoting around in even a small area,(seeing as how everything in the universe is made of atoms) and even more electrons, them fighting out in an open space,plus the Extremis armor being made of atoms just like anything else....well need less to say what would happen if he tried to absorb it😄
Originally posted by manjaro
becuz bb voice isnt a surge of energy per se..thats why they call it a quasi sonic scream cuz once his voice goes out it rips the electrons from atomic particles cuasing them to violently explode..and once the first batch explodes it cuases a chain reaction to obliterate all the others in the direction of his voice.. so since there are literally millions if not billions of atoms flaoting around in even a small area,(seeing as how everything in the universe is made of atoms) and even more electrons, them fighting out in an open space,plus the Extremis armor being made of atoms just like anything else....well need less to say what would happen if he tried to absorb it😄
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That sounds an awful lot like a poppycock. Your pulling that out of your ass.
Any actual facts from MARVEL that says that what your saying is actually how BB's vocal power happens, and also something from MARVEL that says that IM is unable to absorb that type of energy?
If in fact it was actually happening like that or are you just making that claim up to pretend that you know what your talking about and for people to think you have alot of knowledge while supporting your case against IM and for BB...Which I might add is H2H only...
FTR I think it's the later...
Please prove me wrong on both accounts (BB's vocal power/IM's unable to absorb it)
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