Blackbolt vs. Ironman

Originally posted by Innerhype
Batman is a kind of person who dedicates his life to that kind of stuff as well, and that doesn't exactly makes much of a differance.

From what I could gather, Ikarus's speed isnt anywhere close to being near what Iron Man's is. Iron Man however would be a blur to the human eye moving on foot, he has been recently clocked flying at mach 8.7. Sentry even said he was damn fast and he moves at light speeds. That soildly puts even a superspeeder like Quicksilver to shame.

So Yes, I still think Black Bolt would have a tough time dealing with that.

Im a little confused at the batman analigy, it sounds like your compareing apples and oranges. So ill skip that,
However, this is not a race, this is an H2h fight. It is illogical to assume iron man fights at light speeds or anything remotely close to it. not that thats what you were implying, but what im saying is that Iron man has no speed advantage over BB, in h2h combat, they are on at the minimum equal footing. He wouldent have a hard time dealing with that.

I think alot of people mistake BB for a screaming maniac who uses his voice to solve all his problems. Blackbolt time and time again has gone h2h with people well beyond Iron man. Shrugging off incredible blows from the thing in his early showings (and this is a lower end showing) reminds me that IM isint going to do much more to him than what he hasnt allready handled. In his fight(s) with Hulk he showed the durability required to suck up enraged strikes from him as well.

This is the guy that destroyed Sphinx (after sphinx easily defeated the fantastic 4, the inhumans royal family & quicksilver) With merely blasts and punches. Whom also endured excruciateing torture, and shortly after engaded in h2h combat with Gladiator. The same guy who after going H2h with Thor (and fairing very well UNTILL being struck in his antenna) Fought a team of Namor, thing, mr fantastic, invisible woman, human torch, medusa, gorgon and karnak in a weakened state. Blackbolt has the durability, H2h finess and damage output to put IM down permnantly, the ONLY way IM can win this is if he were to strike him in his antenna (and thats not even a gaurenteed win, as he has shown to go into a berzerk/weakened state if this happens) Or unless he is holding some unholy artifact that is going to suck blackbolts lungs out.

H2H
Black Bolt 8/10
Regular, BB 10/10.

i have to cosign that as well..if you check BB's matchups 90% of the time he doesnt even use his voice. and as far as durability, ronan the accuser once turned hi sown power against him and he didnt even scream out in pain tho the caption said how excrutiating it was he also suffered blinding torture at the hands of ronan and still didnt scream. in fact, on the planet he and the rest of the inhumans were held he let out a little scream to ease his pain and volcanoes , and earth quakes were popping off on the other side of the planet

bump you dirty bastards I wont allow you to kill the truth😄

Originally posted by rotiart
Its been stated to be nuke level. And can shatter mountains. It put out gladiator with ease.

Are you putting iron mans durability ABOVE gladiators then?

Blackbolts a pimp. Ironmans a hobo.
Pimps eat hobos for breakfast.

During a Hulk story, which I think was the latest of many Hulk/Iron Man tangles, Tony tested his armor against a gamma bomb at ground zero that had the power of 7+ megatons (I added the + because Tony actually increased the tonnage just to see what the armor could really do). After getting blown away for what I think was miles, Tony picks himself up and the armor and himself (save for a lil gamma poisoning) was completely unharmed.

In comparison, "Little Boy" which was the nuke used at Hiroshima had a blast power of 13 to 16 kilotons (estimations vary), it isn't the most powerful one made but I think it is the one most known.
1 Megaton = 1000 kiloton

So, if this is any indication to Iron Man's durability compared to Gladiator, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Glads got owned 😛

Oh, and Iron Man by a mile 🙂

nice try pal😄 that armor tony made was an experimental one he was designing for high hazard construction, and the hulk owned him easy

Originally posted by manjaro
nice try pal😄 that armor tony made was an experimental one he was designing for high hazard construction, and the hulk owned him easy

🙂

Originally posted by manjaro
nice try pal😄 that armor tony made was an experimental one he was designing for high hazard construction, and the hulk owned him easy

💃

I'd say take away all the gamma absorption it was able to do and your left with that an armor even weaker than the normal Tony ones uses. Remember, Tony never sold any element of Iron Man to the government ( if he did, the results could be catastrophic)and that gamma armor was designed just for them.

Originally posted by manjaro
nice try pal😄 that armor tony made was an experimental one he was designing for high hazard construction, and the hulk owned him easy

What fight did you read? That storyline was called "Big Things".

Hulk hardly owned Iron Man in that encounter.

And "owned him easy"?

Please. 🙄

Unless your interpretation of "owning" means the same thing as struggling.

You should read that story more closely. If anything, Iron Man was in control of that match up (granted, Tony really wasn't himself due to slight gamma radiation poisoning).

well i actually own a copy..admittedly i havent read it in a while it wasnt for construction it was for gamma absorption after a nuclear attack...well yes hulk did still own him easy. play by play...... IM was tripping off pure oxygen in the suit, he smacked hulk in the face, hulk went down..huge crater in the ground...tony stood over him and said

"its going to be alright bruce, i promise i just lost control, but im going to make it up to you, you have my word ....here" tony plops an empty bottle of pain killers on hulk's face, then flies off and sacrastically says "take two--with water"

skip ahead a few panels tony destroys a fighter jet that was in the area just for the f **** of it(obviously still stoned as hell)..saves the pilot. hulk leaps at him from outta nowhere and delivers a massive punch in the back and says "somebody gave you permssion to leave?" in the mean time some crazy ass dude is trying to detonate the other nuclear bomb back at the site(they were in the desert) hulk wont let up, squeezing the shit outta him in fact..tony's all like "let me go you idiot im ok now...ive come back to my senses"(all the while trying to beat hulk off him) the bomb explodes hulk says its a little late...end of matchup...

so yeah he did kind of own him..cuz when the fight just started hulk was trying to plug the hole in the ground with a boulder to prevent the radiation from contaminating the area. cuz once it went off and the armor soaked it up tony just got high all of a sudden and flew off... they were even telling him back at mission control that he would contaminate the area so hulk went to plug the crater he just flew out of. however the armor was very impressive tho...

but that one like i said was and experimetal one, a bulkier than normal one at that...it was made to withstand a nuclear device at ground zero and absorb radiation...the extremis armor , with its flat panel design and ability to be folded down and packed into a freaking suit case isnt NEARLY as durable as that one...not even f ****ing close, it might be the best and coolest one to date, but not more durable than the afore mentioned one..therefore, i dont know why it was even brought up in the first place..oh yes i remember somebody said since the armor stood up to a nuke that makes tony more durable than gladiator...right 😉 it all makes sense, such a conclusion

Originally posted by manjaro
well i actually own a copy..admittedly i havent read it in a while it wasnt for construction it was for gamma absorption after a nuclear attack...well yes hulk did still own him easy. play by play...... IM was tripping off pure oxygen in the suit, he smacked hulk in the face, hulk went down..huge crater in the ground...tony stood over him and said

"its going to be alright bruce, i promise i just lost control, but im going to make it up to you, you have my word ....here" tony plops an empty bottle of pain killers on hulk's face, then flies off and sacrastically says "take two--with water"

skip ahead a few panels tony destroys a fighter jet that was in the area just for the f **** of it(obviously still stoned as hell)..saves the pilot. hulk leaps at him from outta nowhere and delivers a massive punch in the back and says "somebody gave you permssion to leave?" in the mean time some crazy ass dude is trying to detonate the other nuclear bomb back at the site(they were in the desert) hulk wont let up, squeezing the shit outta him in fact..tony's all like "let me go you idiot im ok now...ive come back to my senses"(all the while trying to beat hulk off him) the bomb explodes hulk says its a little late...end of matchup...

so yeah he did kind of own him..cuz when the fight just started hulk was trying to plug the hole in the ground with a boulder to prevent the radiation from contaminating the area. cuz once it went off and the armor soaked it up tony just got high all of a sudden and flew off... they were even telling him back at mission control that he would contaminate the area so hulk went to plug the crater he just flew out of. however the armor was very impressive tho...

but that one like i said was and experimetal one, a bulkier than normal one at that...it was made to withstand a nuclear device at ground zero and absorb radiation...the extremis armor , with its flat panel design and ability to be folded down and packed into a freaking suit case isnt NEARLY as durable as that one...not even f ****ing close, it might be the best and coolest one to date, but not more durable than the afore mentioned one..therefore, i dont know why it was even brought up in the first place..oh yes i remember somebody said since the armor stood up to a nuke that makes tony more durable than gladiator...right 😉 it all makes sense, such a conclusion

wow, incredible post

Originally posted by manjaro
well i actually own a copy..admittedly i havent read it in a while it wasnt for construction it was for gamma absorption after a nuclear attack...well yes hulk did still own him easy. play by play...... IM was tripping off pure oxygen in the suit, he smacked hulk in the face, hulk went down..huge crater in the ground...tony stood over him and said

"its going to be alright bruce, i promise i just lost control, but im going to make it up to you, you have my word ....here" tony plops an empty bottle of pain killers on hulk's face, then flies off and sacrastically says "take two--with water"

skip ahead a few panels tony destroys a fighter jet that was in the area just for the f **** of it(obviously still stoned as hell)..saves the pilot. hulk leaps at him from outta nowhere and delivers a massive punch in the back and says "somebody gave you permssion to leave?" in the mean time some crazy ass dude is trying to detonate the other nuclear bomb back at the site(they were in the desert) hulk wont let up, squeezing the shit outta him in fact..tony's all like "let me go you idiot im ok now...ive come back to my senses"(all the while trying to beat hulk off him) the bomb explodes hulk says its a little late...end of matchup...

so yeah he did kind of own him..cuz when the fight just started hulk was trying to plug the hole in the ground with a boulder to prevent the radiation from contaminating the area. cuz once it went off and the armor soaked it up tony just got high all of a sudden and flew off... they were even telling him back at mission control that he would contaminate the area so hulk went to plug the crater he just flew out of. however the armor was very impressive tho...

So you think that a sucker punch from behind and being knocked off course constitutes as being "owned"?

If that's the case, I wonder what you would consider the Hulk laying unconscious in a crater with a bottle of aspirin laying on his chest.

As I stated in my earlier post, I still fail to see how Iron Man was, as you put it, "owned easily".

Originally posted by manjaro
well i actually own a copy..admittedly i havent read it in a while it wasnt for construction it was for gamma absorption after a nuclear attack...well yes hulk did still own him easy. play by play...... IM was tripping off pure oxygen in the suit, he smacked hulk in the face, hulk went down..huge crater in the ground...tony stood over him and said

"its going to be alright bruce, i promise i just lost control, but im going to make it up to you, you have my word ....here" tony plops an empty bottle of pain killers on hulk's face, then flies off and sacrastically says "take two--with water"

skip ahead a few panels tony destroys a fighter jet that was in the area just for the f **** of it(obviously still stoned as hell)..saves the pilot. hulk leaps at him from outta nowhere and delivers a massive punch in the back and says "somebody gave you permssion to leave?" in the mean time some crazy ass dude is trying to detonate the other nuclear bomb back at the site(they were in the desert) hulk wont let up, squeezing the shit outta him in fact..tony's all like "let me go you idiot im ok now...ive come back to my senses"(all the while trying to beat hulk off him) the bomb explodes hulk says its a little late...end of matchup...

so yeah he did kind of own him..cuz when the fight just started hulk was trying to plug the hole in the ground with a boulder to prevent the radiation from contaminating the area. cuz once it went off and the armor soaked it up tony just got high all of a sudden and flew off... they were even telling him back at mission control that he would contaminate the area so hulk went to plug the crater he just flew out of. however the armor was very impressive tho...

but that one like i said was and experimetal one, a bulkier than normal one at that...it was made to withstand a nuclear device at ground zero and absorb radiation...the extremis armor , with its flat panel design and ability to be folded down and packed into a freaking suit case isnt NEARLY as durable as that one...not even f ****ing close, it might be the best and coolest one to date, but not more durable than the afore mentioned one..therefore, i dont know why it was even brought up in the first place..oh yes i remember somebody said since the armor stood up to a nuke that makes tony more durable than gladiator...right 😉 it all makes sense, such a conclusion

With it's considerably smaller and slicker design and it's ability to shrink into a suit case, does the extremis armor's durability hold a candle the gamma armor shown in this story?

Yes it does, it is either on equal footing or plan better durability wise.

"But it looks tougher!" One might say, but looks can be disceiving. Lets all just consider it another Modern Marvel from Stark Enterprises and move along. But keep in mind, as I said before Tony Stark never sold any element of Iron Man to the government.

I wouldn't say Iron Man's durablility is greater than Gladiator's. Gladiator is able to become as durable as he wants to as long as he sets his mind to it, he shrugged off hits from exploding stars like it was nothing before.

🙁 The thread has been semi-off topic for a few days now I think.

well....he was merely possum with IM.... 😖hifty: i swear it. come on man, when have you ever known the hulk to be knocked out by one...single...punch? and it wasnt like he was battle weary and you could say oh maybe he was tired. at the start of the bout and one pucnh knocks him out cold...only to fully recover and on IM ass by the time he flies over a ridge and destroys a plane? i dont think so..IM has some good armors but not that good...and the owning comes from the fact that hulk had his hands wrapped around him squeezing the life out and he was frantically trying to beat him off like he was a rape victim or something😄

It has been off topic for a few days now lol. but being realistic, i still cant see IM winning any more than 3 or PERHAPS 4 of these fights, perhaps with prep though. Non h2h or h2h. without prep and disregarding h2h, hes just dead 9/10

Originally posted by manjaro
come on man, when have you ever known the hulk to be knocked out by one...single...punch?

Seems that the Hulk laying in a crater is a common result whenever he faces Iron Man. 😛

black bolt has conkkired hulk not once, but fource

lol
this clearly has turned into bb/ironman vs hulk

Originally posted by Darth Vegas

Seems that the Hulk laying in a crater is a common result whenever he faces Iron Man. 😛

So Iron man cheapshotted hulk, and got koed at the same time.

You know whats funny, is that doc sampson has also koed hulk in one punch, when hulk wasn't expecting it. And guess what, he didn't wear himself out.

your scan showed nothing but a cheapshot, and both characters getting KOed.
So you count cheapshots, as Ko's?
Interesting. But we can also say hulk KOed Iron man as well.

Originally posted by bigbran
Funny how in the first scan, hulk was said to be blinded.
And Iron man wore himself out in that one punch.

So Iron man cheapshotted hulk, and got koed at the same time.

You know whats funny, is that doc sampson has also koed hulk in one punch, when hulk wasn't expecting it. And guess what, he didn't wear himself out.

your scan showed nothing but a cheapshot, and both characters getting KOed.
So you count cheapshots, as Ko's?
Interesting. But we can also say hulk KOed Iron man as well.

😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
It has been off topic for a few days now lol. but being realistic, i still cant see IM winning any more than 3 or PERHAPS 4 of these fights, perhaps with prep though. Non h2h or h2h. without prep and disregarding h2h, hes just dead 9/10

I dunno... though Black Bolt has some good showings, Iron Man has some really good ones under his belt as well. I see Iron Man winning in a h2h fight like this 6 or 7 out of 10.

With the prep time, IM takes it almost all the time however,a non h2h would be interesting if both characters come at it without a bloodlust. but even then I see a fight that could still be won by either person.

BB is on Hearlder level of power please, IM will get served all day. BB is a better fighter than IM their is no comparison, BB has defeated more powerful beings than IM. IM had problems with the Madiran and BB straight embarrasses his ass in their first only conflict making his rings useless against BB.

And in H2H BB has him beat their also, defeating Gladiator, Ikaris, Namor, Nova, Ronan, Sphinx, Magneto, putting Adam Warlock on his ass.

BB is consider the perfect being on the planet, he took out the FF and Inhumans at the same time, he so powerful he can powered his whole kingdom with his powers for eons.