batman vs wolverine(no claws)

Started by Murda Ma$e5 pages
Originally posted by pr1983
He's a better fighter? 😐

and as strong.

in the last issue of batman batman was benching over 1000 pounds.

Originally posted by pr1983
No, it means marvel's rating system is flawed...

Really now? Whys this? Wolverine is always listed at the high fight skills level.

Originally posted by pr1983
and the line

doesn't help your case either...


I think it does.

Originally posted by pr1983
I've read hundreds of x-men comics (ya know, the team wolverine is part of?),

I own ever single x-men comic.

Originally posted by pr1983
and sir, you have severely overestimated yourself... its been quite a while since ANYONE (let alone myself) on this forum made me come close to looking dumb...

No you really just made your self look dumb when you said wolverine was not a top tier martial artist.

Originally posted by pr1983
if you say so...

I know so .

Originally posted by pr1983
and just to illustrate, big bran just changed it to a non-adamantium logan...

Changes nothing, Wolverine is still to durable for batman to win this match. Not to mention wolverine could fight at prime days after batman had passed out from exhaustion

Originally posted by Murda Ma$e
and as strong.

in the last issue of batman batman was benching over 1000 pounds.


really whats the issue number I have to pick it up and see for my self.

by the way 1000 pounds would not make him as strong as I man who picked up 1,600 with one arm and throw it.

i thought it was 700 pounds, or 800, somewhere around there.

Originally posted by bigbran
i thought it was 700 pounds, or 800, somewhere around there.

you tlaking to me or the other dude?

other dude, just didnt want to quote.

So... Wolverine without adamantium ehhh?... I actually feel sorry for bats. Wolverines healing factor is way faster when he doesn't have his adamantium. And just for the record: Wolverines bones is a lot more durable than ordinary bones. (read somewhere that his bone-claws was strong enough to slash through steel)

Originally posted by capt it up
Really now? Whys this? Wolverine is always listed at the high fight skills level.

High is not the same as highest... is he on par with someone like shang chi?

I own ever single x-men comic.

I own a fair share too, so one of us is wrong...

I think it does.

So he's a master of all of these? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_martial_arts

No you really just made your self look dumb when you said wolverine was not a top tier martial artist.

Top tier. as in as good or better than the best. There is more than one tier. I have no doubt that wolverine is an accomplished fighter, i just think batman is more accomplished...

I know so.

Apparently not...

Changes nothing, Wolverine is still to durable for batman to win this match. Not to mention wolverine could fight at prime days after batman had passed out from exhaustion

Not if batman kills him long before then...

Wolverine was beat by Mr. X. A low level telepath with high level martial arts skills. The comic stated that between wolverines moves and thoughts about his moves, he telegraphed everything to mr. x. who in turn made wolverine look like a 6 year old white belt in a karate school. The only way wolverine won was because he went berserker, used his high adrenaline, rage, and unstoppable claws to slash in a fury of motions that would eventually include mr. x. It was not a question of wolverines skill, as i'm sorry, having read many of his comics, not most, not all, of wolverine included comics, wolverine rarely shows martial arts skills. btw. Wolverine doesn't use judo throws, leg tosses. scissor takedowns like other marvel comic martial artists. He doesn't use jump kick, backkicks. Flip tosses. He does do ANY of that. He runs at you, and he uses if you look at the motions, traditional boxing manuevers with his claws included. now an uppercut, haymaker or short jab can hurt, but when you have 3 12' incnh long razor sharp blades included... well.. that can't be disarmed... that changes things.

even in wolverine origins, he doesn't show any of his supposed flaunted martial arts skills. hes a brick. hes a nintendo inspired, A button for left punch, B button for right punch tool. Where your only option is to hit select to extract your claws!!

He's the nes double dragon of current marvel comic books!!!! God playing streets of rage and final fight on my classic systems shows characters with more skill than wolverine!

Originally posted by capt it up
really whats the issue number I have to pick it up and see for my self.

by the way 1000 pounds would not make him as strong as I man who picked up 1,600 with one arm and throw it.

we dont know how much that trash can weighed.

And we never saw him pick this up with 1 hand.

Originally posted by capt it up
really whats the issue number I have to pick it up and see for my self.

by the way 1000 pounds would not make him as strong as I man who picked up 1,600 with one arm and throw it.

Wait, my bad it wasn't 1000 it was way over that.

Look here the second to last plate says 500lbs there's a bigger one after that and 2 more in front of that. I'm guessing they're about 100 to 150 each maybe more maybe a little less and thats just one side.

Plus it looks like he's doing reps with it and there's no spotter or weight belt there.

Here's the issue its from.....Yup thats Andy Kuberts sig there.😉

Originally posted by capt it up
that extremely debatable. me and bat dude have ahd endless debates about that very topic.

This is Wolverine's usual battle plan: Run in there and stab everyone and heal from whatever damage I take

This is Batman's usual battle plan: Analyze the enemy, determine their attack paterns, find their weakness.

Yeah do the math 😉

Originally posted by pr1983
High is not the same as highest... is he on par with someone like shang chi?

Saying that Wolverine has more skills that Shang-Chi or Iron Fist is completely ubsurd

Originally posted by Grimm22
Saying that Wolverine has more skills that Shang-Chi or Iron Fist is completely ubsurd

That was my point... 😛

wolvie hands down, hes older faster stonger sees in the dark,

During his time in Japan, Wolverine becomes a master of martial arts, both armed and unarmed; he is especially skilled in the use of the katana. He can use most weapons, traditional or modern, long or close range. He is also an accomplished pilot and is well trained in espionage and covert operations.

Though seemingly brutish, Wolverine is actually highly intelligent. Due to his increased lifespan, he travels the world and amasses an intimate knowledge of foreign languages, customs and cultures. Wolverine speaks fluent English, Japanese, Russian, Chinese, Cheyenne, Spanish, and Lakota; he also has some knowledge of French, Thai, Vietnamese and German.[citation needed]

In the mid-1990s, when Forge monitors Wolverine's vitals during a Danger Room training session, he says Logan's physical and mental state is "equivalent to an Olympic-level gymnast performing a gold-medal-winning routine whilst simultaneously beating four chess computers in his head."

Wolverine possesses superhumanly acute vision, hearing, and smell, allowing him to track and identify individuals by scent alone and see clearly in near total darkness. Wolverine possesses some degree of superhuman strength, and his healing factor heightens his stamina to the point that he can exert himself at peak levels for several days. [issue # needed] Wolverine's agility and reflexes are also enhanced to levels that are beyond the human body's natural limits.

from wikipedia

Originally posted by endrict
wolvie hands down, hes older faster stonger sees in the dark,

During his time in Japan, Wolverine becomes a master of martial arts, both armed and unarmed; he is especially skilled in the use of the katana. He can use most weapons, traditional or modern, long or close range. He is also an accomplished pilot and is well trained in espionage and covert operations.

Though seemingly brutish, Wolverine is actually highly intelligent. Due to his increased lifespan, he travels the world and amasses an intimate knowledge of foreign languages, customs and cultures. Wolverine speaks fluent English, Japanese, Russian, Chinese, Cheyenne, Spanish, and Lakota; he also has some knowledge of French, Thai, Vietnamese and German.[citation needed]

In the mid-1990s, when Forge monitors Wolverine's vitals during a Danger Room training session, he says Logan's physical and mental state is "equivalent to an Olympic-level gymnast performing a gold-medal-winning routine whilst simultaneously beating four chess computers in his head."

Wolverine possesses superhumanly acute vision, hearing, and smell, allowing him to track and identify individuals by scent alone and see clearly in near total darkness. Wolverine possesses some degree of superhuman strength, and his healing factor heightens his stamina to the point that he can exert himself at peak levels for several days. [issue # needed] Wolverine's agility and reflexes are also enhanced to levels that are beyond the human body's natural limits.

from wikipedia

what does wolverine smart have to do with anything, when bats is way smarter.
what does seeing in the dark have to do with anything?

logan cant be out smarted that much and batman cant hide in the shadows from him.

Originally posted by endrict
logan cant be out smarted that much and batman cant hide in the shadows from him.
wolverine cant be outsmarted by batman?? 😕

Originally posted by endrict
logan cant be out smarted that much and batman cant hide in the shadows from him.

I think we should let Batdude educate him.

Originally posted by badabing
I think we should let Batdude educate him.
yes but that might take hours, days even!!!