batman vs wolverine(no claws)

Started by endrict5 pages

logan will win, nuff said!

Originally posted by capt it up
There is no bigger one after that. That the same plate go look at a weight set that’s not a second plate it the same one. Also in your scan I can’t see the 500 that you say is there.

I highly doubt that. I doubt those are event separate plates.

Ther eno evidence to suggest that he doing reps and also who would spot for him?

Can you re scan or some thing because there quite hard to see. Also can you just give me the issue number since have the scan is totally f-ed.

655 go read it......oh and you're blind if you can't tell there's a plate after that.

The number maybe hard to see, but its easy to see how many plates are on there.

I'm sure he just lifts it once.🙄

Originally posted by pr1983
He's a better fighter? 😐
No one can prove that Batman is a better fighter. It's also HIGHLY unlikely and nearly 100% impossible when looking at the massive training and experience advantage Wolverine has over Batman.
Originally posted by pr1983
If logan has no adamantium he's going down, bone claws or no... batman has taken down harder enemies...
Snort...Bone Wolverine has taken shots from the Hulk and remained standing. What in the name of all that's holy is the frikkin' Batman going to do to him? Wolverine could just stand there and wait for Batman to tire himself out and then after a single jab to the face Bats is done.
Originally posted by pr1983
Batman knows over one hundred martial arts, and is comparable to lady shiva...
And Wolverine knows more than Shiva does about combat, so what's your point?
Originally posted by pr1983
wolverine isn't even near the top tier of marvel fighters...
BS. Wolverine took out Cap in the last issue of Wolverine Origins. And last time I checked, Cap was the best fighter in Marvel, therefor Wolverine obviously has to be damn near the best.
Originally posted by pr1983
in honesty i don't believe its that debatable
Then you have a serious problem using common sense.
Originally posted by Tassadar
He means chars like Juggernaut, Hulk, Thing, ect. You know, people who should ko Wolverine in one hit.
Should in YOUR opinion. In reality even these people can't KO him 9 times out of 10. Which further proves how out of his league Batman is here.
Originally posted by Murda Ma$e
and as strong. in the last issue of batman batman was benching over 1000 pounds.
Which proves how stupid DC comics are in general. Batman isn't even peak human, yet he can somehow lift several hundred lbs. more than the strongest weight lifters on the planet??? That's just PIS. If Batman was that strong he would need a meta-gene or he'd be so muscular he couldn't dodge a rush from a frikkin turtle.

Even so Adamantium-less Wolverine picked up and chucked a 1600 lb dumster across an alley WITH ONE HAND. So no, Batman is obviously weaker, since Wolverine has enhanced strength...DUH.

Originally posted by pr1983
High is not the same as highest... is he on par with someone like shang chi?
Uh yeah. Wolverine (No adamantium) destroyed Shang-chi in X-Men # 60. Easily.
Originally posted by pr1983
I own a fair share too, so one of us is wrong...
Yeah, and it's you.
Originally posted by pr1983
Top tier. as in as good or better than the best. There is more than one tier.B]
Wolverine has beaten Cap and DD and a guy better than Iron Fist and Shag-chi, so yeah he is top tier.
Originally posted by pr1983
[B]Not if batman kills him long before then...
If a Hulk punch can't kill Wolverine how will Batman manage this feat???
Originally posted by rotiart
Wolverine was beat by Mr. X. A low level telepath with high level martial arts skills. The comic stated that between wolverines moves and thoughts about his moves, he telegraphed everything to mr. x.
Wrong, Wolverine wasn't telegraphing anything. Good fighters think ahead about what moves they make (which the comic states) X could find out Wolverine's moves by looking into his head, not reading telegraphed moves.
Originally posted by rotiart
The only way wolverine won was because he went berserker, used his high adrenaline, rage, and unstoppable claws to slash in a fury of motions that would eventually include mr. x.
??? He used the telepath blocking ability of the berserker rage to beat X. That's why X was much less successful against Wolverine. He couldn't steal Wolverine's moves out of his head anymore. The adrenaline and the claws had nothing to do with the win, it was the fact that X couldn't read his mind anymore.
Originally posted by rotiart
It was not a question of wolverines skill, as i'm sorry, having read many of his comics, not most, not all, of wolverine included comics, wolverine rarely shows martial arts skills. btw. Wolverine doesn't use judo throws, leg tosses. scissor takedowns like other marvel comic martial artists. He doesn't use jump kick, backkicks. Flip tosses. He does do ANY of that.
You are wrong, you obviously need to read those comics again because I have seen Wolverine use every single attack you just listed on MANY occassions.
Originally posted by rotiart
even in wolverine origins, he doesn't show any of his supposed flaunted martial arts skills. hes a brick..
Even though he beat Cap in a hand 2 hand fight in Origins? I'd say that took skill. He used a bacjflip kick in that fight, you know, one of those attacks you said he never uses.
Wolverine also isn't a BRICK in Origins. His healing factor is pretty weak.
Originally posted by Jyppe
Like I've said before, Wolverine might be very skilled, but he ofter doesn't show that infact it's quite the opposite. He hasn't been able to dodge/block by "rather" simple MA moves after he has popped out his claws. He fights better when he's not using his claws.

Why bother blocking when the blows cant hurt you? This in no way proves he isn't skilled. It proves most every Martial Artist will be helpless against him.

And in Origins Wolverine is able to block, deflect, and evade multiple optic blasts from Cyclops.

Optic Blast>>>>>>any Martial Arts attack.

Originally posted by riceroost

Which proves how stupid DC comics are in general. Batman isn't even peak human

WTF? Now I can ignor you're info regarding Batman.

That was just chicked scratch on the plate Batman was benching... Even if the does say 500 (which I'm not sure it does) the other three characters aren't lbs. Not to mention if that was a 500lbs plate it would be massive, alot bigger then it was.

Well I gave the issue number, go look at it, buy it, DL it or whatever. Reguardless if it said LBS or not it still said 500.

wolvie slices bats head off. and he has a healing factor of course

WTF?

Wolverine has a significant advantage in every conceivable physical category. With no prep, Batman's intelligence is going to do little but give him a chance to escape the mess he'd be getting himself into.

This fight comes down to pure fighting skill, and the only way for Bats to win would be if he had more than twice the skill of wolverine, which is not true. This is debatable, as wolverine is probably Marvel's greatest fighter and Batman is probably DC's best, but I think wolverine has an edge here as well.

Wolverine wins 75%
Wolverine (with claws) 90+%

With claws, what the hell?

If Wolverine where to fight Batman with claws then Bats would have his gadgets.......and there's know way Wolverine would win 90% against that.

who was this tron_sucks? what an idiot!

Originally posted by bigbran
who was this tron_sucks? what an idiot!

LOL - I think it was diabloman 🙂

He had a pretty long thread going on about tron's penis or something.

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damnit! i always like to be there when people flip out.

Originally posted by riceroost
YOUR opinion. In reality even these people can't KO him 9 times out of 10. Which further proves how out of his league Batman is here.

All you just proved is that your a Wolverine fanboy. 🙁

Seriously, Wolverine can heal any part of his body, and the Adamantium on his skeleton makes his bones unbreakable, but his organs are just as soft as anyone elses. Being hit with 80+ tons of pressure would liquify Logans brains, the momentum would transfer through the adamantium. Logans brain tissue takes time to regenerate, hes said it himself before in fact. He wouldnt die, even though having his brain destroyed should result in his cells not knowing what to multiply into, but would be knocked out.

And you said "in reality" in regards to a fictional character. In reality, all Logans healing factor would do is make the cancer he would eventually develop unkillable, as it multiplys infinitely and has the same regerative ability as his immune system, only the cancer would have multiplied too fast for his immune system to stop. This would, in effect, turn Wolverine into a cancer that eventually consumes the planet, with no way of being stopped. ✅

I doubt that batman can handle this guy

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
I doubt that batman can handle this guy
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Originally posted by Murda Ma$e
WTF? Now I can ignor you're info regarding Batman.
No, you can go find some common sense. Going by Batman's physical build and his high agility and maneuverability his bench press can't be 1000 lbs. or higher. It's not possible. The bench press record right now is only like 965 lbs. and it's held by a guy who weighs 400 pounds. Batman weighs about half that and looks like a toothpick compared to the record holder. You are being rediculous.
Originally posted by Murda Ma$e
With claws, what the hell?

If Wolverine where to fight Batman with claws then Bats would have his gadgets.......and there's know way Wolverine would win 90% against that.

Batman's gadgets dont help him much against guys with Enhanced physical attributes. Deathstroke tore Bats a new one and Batman had all his gimmicks then too. Azrael also has enhanced physical stats and he's beaten Batman and his gadgets too. And neither of those guys can take the kind of punishment that Wolverine can.
Originally posted by Tassadar
All you just proved is that your a Wolverine fanboy.
Bite Me. I'm still right.
Originally posted by Tassadar
Seriously, Wolverine can heal any part of his body, and the Adamantium on his skeleton makes his bones unbreakable, but his organs are just as soft as anyone elses.
Wrong. Thanks to Weapon X Wolverine's organic tissue is more durable than normal. Which includes muscle fibers, normal bone tissue, and organs.
Originally posted by Tassadar
Being hit with 80+ tons of pressure would liquify Logans brains, Logans brain tissue takes time to regenerate.
Obviously not, and even if it did he's got a healing factor for that kind of thing. A lot of super strong types also lack the speed to liquify Wolverine's brain. Punching power comes from more then just strength you know. If Sabretooth can repair massive brain damage in 1 issue, Wolverine can do it faster. Wolverine has shown that he can heal very quickly from even brain damage. I've seen him get shot straight through the brain from ear to ear with an arrow and then just pull it back out in the next panel and start fighting again. And his healing factor is even stronger now then it was then.

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Originally posted by Janitor Joe
Wait, my bad it wasn't 1000 it was way over that.

Look here the second to last plate says 500lbs there's a bigger one after that and 2 more in front of that. I'm guessing they're about 100 to 150 each maybe more maybe a little less and thats just one side.

Plus it looks like he's doing reps with it and there's no spotter or weight belt there.

Here's the issue its from.....Yup thats Andy Kuberts sig there.😉

Why would he need a weight belt when doing the bench press?

Not too familiar with the gym I see....

Batkick FTW