I meant that you knew that it was very likely to kill them, as no one survived it before, but you wanted it to just knock them out
Also, what if you believe what you're doing is right? Revan used the Dark Side, and did a lot of terrible things, but he believed what he was doing was good, to save the Republic
Originally posted by Darth KreigerThen the user is an idiot. It's that simple.
I meant that you knew that it was very likely to kill them, as no one survived it before, but you wanted it to just knock them out
Originally posted by Darth KreigerOh noes! By killing I do the right thing! LOLOLOL. 😐 No. Just because one believes they're right does not make it so. And Revan is a damned touchy case in that matter, he had good intentions; but indeed he went about it all wrong.
Also, what if you believe what you're doing is right? Revan used the Dark Side, and did a lot of terrible things, but he believed what he was doing was good, to save the Republic
exactly my point, you can use a power that kills someoneand think that it will just hurt them thats like putting a gun against someones head and tell them "it will only hurt for a second and dont worry you will live" and also there is no such thing as a light side force power that kills people, just incase you didnt know yawnyawnyawn
Originally posted by Blank force
exactly my point, you can use a power that kills someoneand think that it will just hurt them thats like putting a gun against someones head and tell them "it will only hurt for a second and dont worry you will live" and also there is no such thing as a light side force power that kills people, just incase you didnt know yawnyawnyawn
What about Luke's Green Lightning or whatever it's called?
Why would it be Dark Side to use the Force to throw a Sabre at them and kill them but not to use your hands to hack someone in half with a Sabre and kill them?
The Force just changes the means of delivery, the fundamental act is identical- death by sabre blade.
Jedi are Guardians, not pacifists. At times they have to fight and even kill.
i dunno, ive never heard of it. it EU, so i consider it half-cannon (if you get what i mean), and didn't luke turn to the darkside in DE? im talking about what someone says about violence not being the jedi way, or some morale highground, patronising crap. its possible that after the fall of the OJO (old jedi order) the NJO (new jedi order) isn't as strickt and, faced with many new threats, luke and others have developed new powers...
or the creators got lazy and decided to have a "good side lighning power"
i think the latter.
this is from the link http://www.starwars.com/qa/?cat=388&question=13242
Is using Force lightning inherently evil? Didn't Yoda use that power in Episode II?
Yoda reflected back Dooku's Sith lightning and did not generate any of his own. As Yoda says in The Empire Strikes Back, a Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack. There's no way to rationalize Force lightning as a defensive power. It's using the Force in an extremely aggressive fashion, so yes, it is inherently a power of the dark side, and using it could have terrible consequences.
Players of Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter will note that Force lightning is an ability available in the game, but that's a game-play convention. While the core story of Jedi Starfighter does fit into overall Star Wars continuity, the actual mechanics take a number of liberties for the sake of making the game more exciting.
Originally posted by Captain REX
Powers themselves are not of any nature unless they require the Dark Side or Light Side for usage.For example, throwing your lightsabers with telekinesis could go either way. If you're using the Dark Side, it's a Dark Side power. If not, it's a Light Side power.
Dark Side = using your emotions for power and letting them use you.
Light Side = controlling your emotions and not using them for power and gaining power by understanding and training.
I just answered everything in this thread. It has nothing to do with intent or what you're purpose is for using the power. It has to do with emotions.
Anakin let his emotions control him (fear, anger, hubris).
Obi-Wan had emotions, but did not use them for power.
Same with Yoda and Windu. They're Jedi. Palpatine used extreme hatred. Maul used extreme hatred. Dooku used anger and hubris. They're evil.
Darkies use emotions for power. Jedi do not use emotions.
Pretty simple.
Originally posted by Sith Lord Windu
When? 😕
Against Palpatine.
The fact is, the Jedi use the Force aggressively all the time, even if they do not use Lightning. Right from the start in TPM they were force pushing droids into tiny pieces, they do it in the Arena in AOTC, and Yoda does it in ROTS! Trying to claim the Force is never used offensively, when every single Jedi does so, is useless.
When Yoda says the Jedi use the Force for defence, never for attack, he is talking about their general philosophy, not the literal way it is used in a fight.
The only way you could use a dark side power in self-defence is too USE THE DARK SIDE. i.e. giving into emotions and passions.
Throwing your lightsaber at a hanging wire in order to cut the power so you can open a door isn't "Dark Side."
Throwing your lightsaber with the intent on killing someone is only dark side if they're A.) Defenceless or B.) Unprepared and/or unware.
Killing with a Saberthrow is exactly the same as killing while it's still in your hands. It IS your intentions that make it Light or Dark.
Does noone listen to REX?
Originally posted by Tangible God
The only way you could use a dark side power in self-defence is too USE THE DARK SIDE. i.e. giving into emotions and passions.Throwing your lightsaber at a hanging wire in order to cut the power so you can open a door isn't "Dark Side."
Throwing your lightsaber with the intent on killing someone is only dark side if they're A.) Defenceless or B.) Unprepared and/or unware.
Killing with a Saberthrow is exactly the same as killing while it's still in your hands. It IS your intentions that make it Light or Dark.
Does noone listen to REX?
Exactly.
And if I hear any NJO bullshit again, I will kill whoever says.
Originally posted by Himo
Exactly.And if I hear any NJO bullshit again, I will kill whoever says.
I have been asking about the NJO(It ruined Star Wars) and how Lukes Green Lightning IS NOT considered Dark Side, it's an insta-kill, there's no chance of survival from it, it's Darker than the Dark Side