Top 5 Greatest Jedi and Sith

Started by Count Makashi10 pages

Is this because of Dooku?

It's not only due to the fact you have Tyranus listed at the number one spot on both accounts, but your rankings are severely flawed, and you even have Kit ****ing Fisto on your list. Plus, you're lacking essential figures like Luke, Jacen, Exar Kun, and the like. If it were only because of Tyranus, then I wouldn't have said 'pretty much everything'.

Kit Fisto is a great Jedi, who else has a smile like that, Fisto deserves to be on the list, because of his smile and because he is a great swimmer.

Advent is right; your list is unsupported and idiotic at best. Dooku being one of the greatest Jedi - and an even greater Sith Lord - is stated and supported by the novelization. However, the Emperor was the greatest Sith Lord ever, bar none. His achievements grossly outweigh those of any of his predecessors, and Dooku was nothing but a pawn in the schemes. As for Jedi, he counts even less. Yoda, Luke, Jacen Solo, and even Obi-Wan Kenobi - in terms of decisions and roles played - have had much more of a profound importance on the galaxy than Dooku has.

Isn't this a personal preference and it says no bashing, you hurt my feelings.

Sith:
1. DE Sidious (duh)
2. Darth Nihilus
3. Marka Ragnos (maybe)
4. Darth Bane
5. Freedon Nadd (but maybe Exar Kun or Tulak Hord)

Jedi:
1. Luke Skywalker (NJO and up - obviously)
2. Kyp Durron (maybe)
3. Yoda (not sure if he is above or below Kyp)
4. Revan
5. Mace Windu/Kyle Katarn/ROTS Anakin

As for Jedi, he counts even less. Yoda, Luke, Jacen Solo, and even Obi-Wan Kenobi - in terms of decisions and roles played - have had much more of a profound importance on the galaxy than Dooku has.

I don't agree on this one...
Perhaps they had more importance for the Jedi order...But in the galaxy...Without Dooku I don't think Sidious would ever got his hands on the death star plans...He opened a full assult on the republic...
If that's not important...I don't know what is...

And what obi wan did...
He killed Maul, got pulverized by Dooku two times, and got killed by Vader eventually...And then stopped by and say hello when the war was over at the end of ep.6.

First of i was joking when i made that list, especialy about Kit Fisto and i would never in million years put Sion on it, if i was serious and they meant, when he was a Jedi, he didn't do anything big for Galaxy changing events.

Even when he is a Sith, he is not super important, all those things he did for Sidious could ave been done by someone else, just allot harder, he was the perfect man for the job, but easily replaceable.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Sith:
1. DE Sidious (duh)
2. Darth Nihilus
3. Marka Ragnos (maybe)
4. Darth Bane
5. Freedon Nadd (but maybe Exar Kun or Tulak Hord)
Now why is nihilus one of the greatest sith? All he does is destroy this and destroy that. He hardly did anything impressive non force wise.

Now sidious bane and nadd fits your list for the greatest

Why is Nadd on that list, or Ragnos, or Nihilus, but the biggest question is, why Tulak Hord maybe, we don't know anything about him.

I think Sion should be on the list of Sith he was pretty bad ass

Originally posted by norrinradd43
I think Sion should be on the list of Sith he was pretty bad ass
He didnt achieve anything unlike sidious

Originally posted by Manslayer
He didnt achieve anything unlike sidious

Agreed,All he can do is stay alive when he should be dead,nothing to great about that. The ones in the top 5 sith accomplished something like Sidious,Revan,Ragnos,Kun and bane.

Agreed.

Sith

1. Exar Kun
2. Darth Revan
3. Darth Sidious
4. Naga Sadow
5. Darth Malak

Jedi

1. Luke Skywalker
2. Jacen Solo
3. Yoda
4. Obi-wan Kenobi
5. Anakin Skywalker

Sith

1. Exar Kun
2. Darth Revan
3. Darth Sidious
4. Naga Sadow
5. Darth Malak

No.

a.) Darth Sidious conquered the galaxy, dissolved the Republic, and smashed the Jedi. That puts him literally miles ahead of any other Sith in terms of achievements.

b.) Malak did nothing but try to do what Revan did, and he failed at it. Ergo, he's not among the greatest Sith.

c.) Naga Sadow? SEE: Malak.

d.) Kun, who is certainly among the strongest Sith, is trailing behind Darths Sidious and Revan.

e.) Where are Bane and Ragnos?

Jedi

1. Luke Skywalker
2. Jacen Solo
3. Yoda
4. Obi-wan Kenobi
5. Anakin Skywalker

This is a little better. Arguably, Anakin could be number one, since he killed Palpatine and "brought balance to the Force".

And why Jacen Solo, he went to the Dark Side.

I think that Revan would be on the list had he not disgraced the Sith and went with the Republic. He had an opportunity to dominate, but for some odd reason threw it away (officially).

Dunno about jedi but here a couple of sith list
For acclomplishment

1. Sidious for Conquering the galaxy
2. Krayt for conquering it again
3. Bane for the rule of 2 and defeat of the brotherhood
4. Plagueis for making anakin through the medi chlorians
5. Sion/Nihil/Karness Muur/Palpatine/andeddu and any other immortal siths for conquering death the oft forgeten of sith goals

For force ability
1.Plagueis creates life from nothing
2.Bane using the thought bomb
3.Zannah for her sorcery
4.Nihil wiping out entire planets
5.Exar kunn for draining the massassi life force
6.any sith that comes back from the dead in spirit

For saber ability
1. Maul and dooku maul for his astounding knowledge and dooku for you know
2.Vader
3.bane

for pure hotness
Zannah

Originally posted by Darth Ictharyyn
Dunno about jedi but here a couple of sith list
For acclomplishment

1. Sidious for Conquering the galaxy
2. Kryst for conquering it again
3. Bane for the rule of 2 and defeat of the brotherhood
4. Plagueis for making anakin through the medi chlorians
5. Sion/Nihil/Karness Muur/Palpatine/andeddu and any other immortal siths for conquering death the oft forgeten of sith goals

2. I think you mean Krayt.
5. Sion was only Invincible in a limited sense. Nihilus wasn't immortal, only "contained" in a mask. And Palpatine and Andeddu eventually died, so...

Originally posted by Darth Ictharyyn
For force ability
1.Plagueis creates life from nothing
2.Bane using the thought bomb
3.Zannah for her sorcery
4.Nihil wiping out entire planets
5.Exar kunn for draining the massassi life force
6.any sith that comes back from the dead in spirit
1. It's becime kinda consensual that Palaptine is #1 Sith in Force powers. There's nothing that Zannah's done to put her in the top 5. And frankly, every Sith sans Palpatine who came back as a spirit was bound to a location and item, so...