Originally posted by EPIIIBITESYeah and I love movies like that (except not even the VFX in Day After Tomorrow could save that movie - Twister had more realistic FX), but Star Wars movies shouldn't be those kinds of movies... the Original Trilogy films weren't. And even (to a lesser extent) the other Prequel films weren't. AOTC just has NOTHING going for it in the story department. I wish I could just see the movie as mindless entertainment, but every time I watch it I'm reminded of how redundant it is and how it should have been so much better...
Personally though, I know when I check out The Day After Tomorrow, or Alien vs. Predator, or the Final Fantasy movies, or Eight Legged Creeps, I'm not expecting good characters/story... because the filmakers aren't expecting people to come see that in their films, and they don't put a lot of work into it. The price of admission is so that you can turn your brain off and just see cool stuff.
Originally posted by EPIIIBITESWell, if you're talking about the PT, then yeah I'd totally agree with you... it is a joke. But the OT is not. The movies are respected as classics even by non-geeks... at least in my experience. This is just speaking about the movies, however... if we're talking about the Star Wars fandom, expanded universe, and the geeks arguing on internet forums, then yeah... it's a joke.
...and dude, Star Wars IS the butt of all jokes, and if you or any others here don't realizse that then you better surround yourself with new friends, make new contacts, whatever...
Originally posted by EPIIIBITESOh hell no. You can thank the good old fanboys for that...
...I hope nobody here for a second mistakes the PTs immense popularity as being a result of it's accomplishments as films!
-Find a hotter actress than Natalie
-Find a less gayer actor than Hayden
-Prolong the arrest scene in ROTS (ie: make Agen and Saesee look better)
-Anakin did NOT make Threepio
-Eliminate all of Lucas' bs retcon such as what I mentioned above as well as Boba being a clone as and the rest of the army coming from his dna.
Originally posted by Darth Callous
-Find a hotter actress than Natalie
Yeah, Natalie's a beast!
DUDE! In terms of finding quality of acting combined w/ hotness, Natalie Portman is BY FAR at the top of the Hollywood A list...What planet...no, what galaxy are you from???
(ps...too bad she didn't use those acting chops in SW).
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Good points DeVi| D0do...I just pounced on Queeq simply 'cause he said that explosion was lame...i've seen lame explosions in movies...that one ain't one!
Oh yeah, sorry. Didn't mean to say the explosion was badly made. I just feel that this unexpected explosion didn't feel as a shocker. Takes more to create a shocker than a big flashy CGI explsoion that looks great. That is why I felt it was a lame opening, not because of its visual quality. But I hold dearly to the approach that great visuals alone don't make a good movie.
I agree with most of what's been posted.
Alliance is dead on about Anakin being a competent, strong boy in Episode I.
We should see right away that the kid is prodigy, a genius, and something special.
Replace Jake Lloyd with Haley Joel Osment.
Make Anakin around 12 too, so that he's only 2 or 3 years behind Padme.
Intorduce Dooku as a Jedi in the film, have him talk with Qui-gon on Coruscant about Anakin, and have him leave the order at the end of the film when Qui-gon dies.
Trim 2 or 3 min. off the podrace.
The rest of Episode I is pretty good.
Trim the beginning of ATOC by keeping the assasination but cutting down the speeder chase, and all the Jedi/Anakin & Padme/chancellor talking scenes.
In 20 min. we get:
Assasination attempt
Reunion of Padme/Anakin/obi
Speeder chase
Club scene
Anakin talks to palps (first time we see him)
Leave for naboo
Next, cut out Dexter Jexter, have the temple droids tell Obi that the dart is from Kamino, he looks in the Archives but can't find it, and Yoda tells him to "go the center of gravity's pull" just like he already does.
Trim Naboo, all we need are the scens on the balcony, the waterfall picnic, and his dream/the morning after.
The big, sloppy scene where they decide not to fall in love is gone, the point is understood when she pulls away on the balcony and says " I shouldn't have done that."
Trim Kamino.
Obi meets the PM, sees the clones, reports to Yoda, and goes to fight Jango, no "talking in the apartment".
Boba fett is 16-18, played by the kid who was Rufio in Hook.
All the Tatooine stuff is perfect.
Obi follows Jango to Geonosis, sees federation ships, and contacts the Jedi then.
He is captured immediately upon arrival, and tempted by Dooku.
Most of the movie continues as it was, with a few touch-ups to the fighting scenes.
Episode III is the same as it is, with all the bullshit goofy droids taken out, and all the Rebellion scenes intact.
Obviously the arest of Palps is handled better.
We get another scene of Anakin contemplating/thinking after he's helped palps kill mace, before the temple massacre.
We SEE the temple massacre.
Each clone wars battle, on each planet is given 30 sec-1 min of extra combat footage.
We see the Wookie's turn on the Clones, and fight them while Chewie and Tarfull take Yoda to the ship.
The rest of the film is the same, except that either qui-gon's ghost appears to Yoda on Polis Massa, or we hear his voice and he talks to Yoda.
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
...I hope nobody here for a second mistakes the PTs immense popularity as being a result of it's accomplishments as films!
I don't think anyone does... anyone with any sense anyway...
Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
And I'm pretty sure I could prove beyond any doubt that finding a hotter actress is physically impossible.
Then go ahead... 😛
Originally posted by sithsaber408
Thank you, thank you. 😛 True, but isn't the entire PT one big montage with little discussions thrown in?
pretty much...