Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The Marvel multiverse isnt all there is within Marvel creation. Marvel creation also features megaverses, which are otherdimensional universes that while not sharing the cosmology and structure of those found within the main marvel multiverse, they are more closely connected to marvels multiverse, than they are other multiverses, hence such universes and their inhabitants being featured within a marvel comic. The New Universe is a megaverse as is the Beyond Realm. All that is within a marvel comic book is OF Marvels supreme being.
Heck, you and Juntai would make a magnificent powerteam in these debates. And yeah, that sounds very logical and I trust you, too.
Originally posted by Juntai
It wasn't a retcon, no retcon took place. Neither company agreed to this.Have you got on panel evidence to support you?
No.Cool.
again the 1st and 2nd panels on this thread clearly start that without the beyonder, the beyond realm wouldnt even be a place......so how could TOAA have created it? http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t412978.html
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
DC vs Marvel #1
They were the God's of both Multiveres, they were the sum of everything in their Multiverse, they were everything withing the multiveres.1 Multiverse + 1 Multiverse = 2 Multiverses
Beyonder = Million Multiverses (under limmitations)
The Brothers werent the supreme beings of each multiverse. In each comic creation there also exists megaverses. In marvel we have the New Universe and the Beyond Realm for example. Plus theres the little fact that the Brothers were retconned into being guardians of the two multiverses. Servants of Spectre and LT:
Originally posted by Tshern
Heck, you and Juntai would make a magnificent powerteam in these debates. And yeah, that sounds very logical and I trust you, too.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm✅
The Marvel multiverse isnt all there is within Marvel creation. Marvel creation also features megaverses, which are otherdimensional universes that while not sharing the cosmology and structure of those found within the main marvel multiverse, they are more closely connected to marvels multiverse, than they are other multiverses, hence such universes and their inhabitants being featured within a marvel comic. The New Universe is a megaverse as is the Beyond Realm. All that is within a marvel comic book is OF Marvels supreme being.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The Brothers werent the supreme beings of each multiverse. In each comic creation there also exists megaverses. In marvel we have the New Universe and the Beyond Realm for example. Plus theres the little fact that the Brothers were retconned into being guardians of the two multiverses. Servants of Spectre and LT:
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Originally posted by GalacticStormhe was much more then a universe, he offered to transform a few different characters into actual universes......who has ever had that kind of power in all of comics?
Nope. The fact that it was stated on panel and in bios that the Beyonder was a universe from beyond Marvels multiverse and hence a megaverse by Marvels definitions.
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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope. The fact that it was stated on panel and in bios that the Beyonder was a universe from beyond Marvels multiverse and hence a megaverse by Marvels definitions.
It's like saying: Eternity have the power over the entire MU: Multiverse.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
An idea that was canned before the comicbook was ever put together therefore its never been canon never been featured in a comic book and as such is an irrelevant point to bring up in this debate.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
1, Juntai know nothing of Beyonder.
2, GalacticStorm have been owned by Mr. Master so many times I lost count, and even he claims that Beyonder had that power.
Nope. Ive never been owned by Mr master. I have been in debate with Mr Master and been assaulted with a barrage of scans showing not one of the points hes debating. Providing conclusive evidence isnt as simple as posting scans and posting what you thinks going on in them. That it appears is something he and you need to learn.
Originally posted by Tshern
Haven't seen any panels stating that, but you have credibility in my eyes, you've showed your knowledge (especially on DC) many times. And since it has been stated, I say The Presence wins. Since nothing is outside creation, because everything has to be created somehow, there is no other possibility than The Presence.
And Lucifer, in several issues involving his past. Offhand I know it was stated in the final issue[75].
And thanks for the few compliments. 😄
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I posted a link which explains both Pre- and Post-retcon Amalgam Bros power.
And it say that they are the sum of everything in their Multiverse.
Which is irrelevant when
a) the brothers no longer have this status
b) the brothers by canon have never been supreme beings of their multiverses
c) a comic book creation has more to it than a multiverse.
Please take time out to read and comprehend these points and just what they mean for the status of your argument.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope. Ive never been owned by Mr master. I have been in debate with Mr Master and been assaulted with a barrage of scans showing not one of the points hes debating. Providing conclusive evidence isnt as simple as posting scans and posting what you thinks going on in them. That it appears is something he and you need to learn.