Thor (vs) JLA

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I've been saying that too. ALl of the other members of the JLA can attain incredible speeds. And they have other powers that the flash doesn't have. Which kind of makes them just as big of a threat to Thor as the Flash. The Reason the JLA is the power house team of comics is that every one on the Team is a very real and powerful threat to evil. It's like having a team full of heralds. Even Batman's mind is herald lvl. And this new aquaman seems to be working his way up the food chain as well.

The new Aquaman has some new powers now? Does the sword do nifty stuff?

In terms of speed, the Flash is in a league of his own. Not to mention that that combined with the Speed-steal trick is one of the toughest things to counter in comics.

Thor CAN make it to 6 (not saying he necessarily will), but he sure as hell ain't beating Flash.

Originally posted by Draco69
The new Aquaman has some new powers now? Does the sword do nifty stuff?

I dont know enough about the new aquaman to conclusively say if he is ready for the JLA. I always thought he was lame until Grant Morrison made him seem cool. And marty england was doign a good job on the aquaman book. It would be cool if Lord poiseiden Killed aquaman and took his place as the new aquaman. But then he would be more powerful than Superman and you know DC ain't having that.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont know enough about the new aquaman to conclusively say if he is ready for the JLA. I always thought he was lame until Grant Morrison made him seem cool. And marty england was doign a good job on the aquaman book. It would be cool if Lord poiseiden Killed aquaman and took his place as the new aquaman. But then he would be more powerful than Superman and you know DC ain't having that.

I would redesign Aquaman as thus:

Give him Omega-Iceman like powers with his water hand.
Give him the Trident of Triton allowing him massive magical reserves
Give him the ability to summon (a la Final Fantasy) ancient monsters ( a la Godzilla) by opening dimensional portholes to do his bidding. Gives a whole new meaning of "talk to fish"....

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I find this comment interesting. You aren't the only one who's brought this up either. A majority of people seem to find Flash beats Thor more often than not due to his speed.

Here is what is interesting about this comment. Superman can pull some of the stuff Flash can due to his speed as well. At Thor's speed, Superman and Flash would appear virtually identical when comparing speed.

Flash also isn't any less vulnerable to magic that Supes is...as a matter of fact, I would wager to say Supes is much more durable to it.

It's not just Superman either, GL's can will themselves to this type of speed quickly. MM and WW can as well. While slower than Flash and Supes, it's still an issue with Thor.

Now Wally is of course less invulnerable but that healing factor of his is sick.

For those who think he can't take a hit.

http://img237.echo.cx/my.php?image=flashv2156189gx.jpg
http://img237.echo.cx/my.php?image=flashv2156191yq.jpg
http://img237.echo.cx/my.php?image=flashv2156205zz.jpg

Shit...

And they say Superman is a walking plot device.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I find this comment interesting. You aren't the only one who's brought this up either. A majority of people seem to find Flash beats Thor more often than not due to his speed.

Here is what is interesting about this comment. Superman can pull some of the stuff Flash can due to his speed as well. At Thor's speed, Superman and Flash would appear virtually identical when comparing speed.

Flash also isn't any less vulnerable to magic that Supes is...as a matter of fact, I would wager to say Supes is much more durable to it.

It's not just Superman either, GL's can will themselves to this type of speed quickly. MM and WW can as well. While slower than Flash and Supes, it's still an issue with Thor.

Flash is the only character who's able to tap into the speed force, thus he gets the win over Thor. The rest of the JLA's speed can be imo countered.

The reason being is it’s established that the speed of Thor’s hammer transcends both time and space. In addition Thor could, visually, detect objects that move at great speeds(when he saw the speedy Hermes). It has also been established that Thor can move faster than the mortal eye can follow, and in Thor-#354 Hela described Thor's speed as being"beyond comprehension". It has also been established that Thor is as swift as the lightning he commands, and the lightning Thor command travels at 100 million feet per second. Thus is the reason I believe that speed won't be much of a problem for the Thunder god.

BTW lightspeed = 186282 miles per second, and Thor moves at 100 million miles a second. Do the Math, that equals 536x the speed of light. 😉

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Flash is the only character who's able to tap into the speed force, thus he gets the win over Thor. The rest of the JLA's speed can be imo countered.

The reason being is it’s established that the speed of Thor’s hammer transcends both time and space. In addition Thor could, visually, detect objects that move at great speeds(when he saw the speedy Hermes). It has also been established that Thor can move faster than the mortal eye can follow, and in Thor-#354 Hela described Thor's speed as being"beyond comprehension". It has also been established that Thor is as swift as the lightning he commands, and the lightning Thor command travels at 100 million feet per second. Thus is the reason I believe that speed won't be much of a problem for the Thunder god.

Thats interesting, ive never heard that before. Brings a new argument to the table

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Thats interesting, ive never heard that before. Brings a new argument to the table

That it does

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Flash is the only character who's able to tap into the speed force, thus he gets the win over Thor. The rest of the JLA's speed can be imo countered.

The reason being is it’s established that the speed of Thor’s hammer transcends both time and space. In addition Thor could, visually, detect objects that move at great speeds(when he saw the speedy Hermes). It has also been established that Thor can move faster than the mortal eye can follow, and in Thor-#354 Hela described Thor's speed as being"beyond comprehension". It has also been established that Thor is as swift as the lightning he commands, and the lightning Thor command travels at 100 million feet per second. Thus is the reason I believe that speed won't be much of a problem for the Thunder god.

BTW lightspeed = 186282 miles per second, and Thor moves at 100 million miles a second. Do the Math, that equals 536x the speed of light. 😉

Don't overhype Thor. He can travel 100 Million FEET per second. He's NEVER shown that kind of speed, so don't pull crap out of your ass. Btw, 100 Million feet a second is only 1894 miles a second, which is slower than Superman's running speed.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
no disrespect, but I cant help but feel you have a slight bias in favor of the JLA.

Noticed that too have you?

Originally posted by batdude123
Don't overhype Thor. He can travel 100 Million FEET per second. He's NEVER shown that kind of speed, so don't pull crap out of your ass. Btw, 100 Million feet a second is only 1894 miles a second, which is slower than Superman's running speed.

Not over hyping, just stating facts. It has been stated on multiple occasions that Thor is as swift as the lighting he commands. Thor's has commanded his lightning to move at 100 million feet per second, thus it's fair to speculate that he's able to move at that speed. Speed beyond comprehension isn't that bad of a description either.

Yes your right on the math, I unintentionally used miles instead of feet.

Originally posted by Tassadar
Noticed that too have you?

lol
uh huh

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Not over hyping, just stating facts. It has been stated on multiple occasions that Thor is as swift as the lighting he commands. Thor's has commanded his lightning to move at 100 million feet per second, thus it's fair to speculate that he's able to move at that speed. Speed beyond comprehension isn't that bad of a description either.

Yes your right on the math, I unintentionally used miles instead of feet.

Okay. Just making sure you realized it. 🙂

Thor is JLA caliber. The JLA are all roughly 5/10 of each other. With the Gl's,MM, and Flash being able to pull Slight Wins over each other JLAer. WIth that in mind, it is feasable that Thor can beaten by everyone on the JLA except for Batman. And if Thor lived in DCU, Batman would be able to beat him some of the time as well.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thor is JLA caliber. The JLA are all roughly 5/10 of each other. With the Gl's,MM, and Flash being able to pull Slight Wins over each other JLAer. WIth that in mind, it is feasable that Thor can beaten by everyone on the JLA except for Batman. And if Thor lived in DCU, Batman would be able to beat him some of the time as well.

😐 Okay, Batman in a well written comic would never defeat Thor. With all his powers at his disposal, Thor(Classic) could take the majority against all of the JLA except Flash.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
😐 Okay, Batman in a well written comic would never defeat Thor. With all his powers at his disposal, Thor(Classic) could take the majority against all of the JLA except Flash.

And Superman could take a majority against Thor as well. 😐

You realize that if Thor was in DC and a part of the JLA, at one point or another, he would get owned because Batman found a weakness in him. It's an unofficial contract of being a part of the JLA. 😄

Originally posted by batdude123
And Superman could take a majority against Thor as well. 😐

You realize that if Thor was in DC and a part of the JLA, at one point or another, he would get owned because Batman found a weakness in him. It's an unofficial contract of being a part of the JLA. 😄

What weakness does Thor have? I know he can be defeated, but what weakness does Thor have thats that obvious and can be exploited so easily?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
What weakness does Thor have? I know he can be defeated, but what weakness does Thor have thats that obvious and can be exploited so easily?

What weakness does the Flash or Green Lantern have that Batman can exploit? 😐

He's a genius, and he'd think of something. Hell, Ra's Al Guhl took down the entire JLA because he stole the secret files that Batman kept on the league members. 😐 😐 😐

evillaugh

Originally posted by Soujaboy
😐 Okay, Batman in a well written comic would never defeat Thor. With all his powers at his disposal, Thor(Classic) could take the majority against all of the JLA except Flash.

Doubtful, Thor's speed is on the low end of the totem pole compared to most of the JLA. Most of the JLA(classic) would at the very least be 5/5 with him if not take a slight majority.