Originally posted by Soujaboy
Flash is the only character who's able to tap into the speed force, thus he gets the win over Thor. The rest of the JLA's speed can be imo countered.
I'm sorry, this doesn't make sense. Speed is speed and while Flash is the fastest, in comparison to Thor most of the JLA is extremely fast. Mjolnir realistically can't change that.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Doubtful, Thor's speed is on the low end of the totem pole compared to most of the JLA. Most of the JLA(classic) would at the very least be 5/5 with him if not take a slight majority.
I tend to agree that Thor would be just another addition to the JLA. He wouldn't be some battle, tide changing member that would be all important to the league. So many people make it like Thor would be a big gun to the JLA. Maybe to the old Avengers, tho these new avengers seem to be very promising. (The relaunch after civil war). Every thing thor is capable of bringing to the JLA, they already have. With that in mind, he just can't take more than 5/5 on average against the league. I'd say the leaguers who have so much speed advantage( in combat showings not just in theory), helps even the odds against his hammer. And it's not like his strength is something that would impress the league. He is a very cool character, but he's not so cool to take the majority wins against each member of the JLA.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I'm sorry, this doesn't make sense. Speed is speed and while Flash is the fastest, in comparison to Thor most of the JLA is extremely fast. Mjolnir realistically can't change that.
For the record, GL can will himself into the Speed Force. 😉
Originally posted by Validus
Yeah, that didn't make much sense. Flash being at lightspeed is greater than Superman at lightspeed because Flash is using the Speed Force?For the record, GL can will himself into the Speed Force. 😉
I said because flash has access to the speed force than he has a greater chance of beating Thor than Supes does. The same reason you think Flash can defeat Supes is the same reason I think he can defeat Thor.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
I said because flash has access to the speed force than he has a greater chance of beating Thor than Supes does. The same reason you think Flash can defeat Supes is the same reason I think he can defeat Thor.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
I said because flash has access to the speed force than he has a greater chance of beating Thor than Supes does. The same reason you think Flash can defeat Supes is the same reason I think he can defeat Thor.
The same reason you think Flash would beat Thor, is the same reason why I think Superman would beat Thor. The outcome would be the same, but Flash would simply do it faster. Once you get past a point, what's the difference between 250x the speed of light, and 50000x the speed of light?
Originally posted by Soujaboy
I said because flash has access to the speed force than he has a greater chance of beating Thor than Supes does. The same reason you think Flash can defeat Supes is the same reason I think he can defeat Thor.
It still doesn't change anything. It's his speed that gives him the advantage and he isn't less vulnerable to magic than Supes. The JLA'ers have a great advantage over him.
Let's put it this way, Zauriel is a magical being and pretty quick himself. Doesn't mean that I would give him the majority over the rest of the JLA either.
Originally posted by Soljer
I'd say that Thor does a fifty fifty split on every JLA member except for Wonder Woman, and the Flash. He beats Wonder Woman 7-8/10, and beats the Flash 0/10. 🙂.
Now exactly how is he going to beat WW so much more than Supers when she is just as strong, nearly as fast, resistant to magic, and the best fighter on the team besides batman? Ur answer doesn't quite make sense to me.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now exactly how is he going to beat WW so much more than Supers when she is just as strong, nearly as fast, resistant to magic, and the best fighter on the team besides batman? Ur answer doesn't quite make sense to me.
*rolls eyes* Thor wins about as many against Diana as Superman, though, likely one more, if only because Superman is vulnerable to the magic that empowers Diana, while Thor has insane magical resistance.
Besides that, "How is he going to beat her SO MUCH more?"??? Two more wins isn't exactly a landslide, love.
Originally posted by Draco69
Thor's magic isn't going to much against Diana but piss her off. She regularly faces Skyfather level beings like Ares, Circe and Cronos. She even faced down the Lotus Flower....It's likely a stalemate between the two because they have excellent defenses to any offenses they plan to make....
I wasn't implying that Thor would kill her with a bolt of lightning, nay! I'm not quite ignorant enough to argue that 😉.
What I'm saying is, Thor wins more often against Diana than Superman (wins against Diana) because Superman has a magical weakness, while Thor has magical resistance.
And, after all, what IS Diana except Clay and Magic?
Originally posted by Draco69
Thor's magic isn't going to much against Diana but piss her off. She regularly faces Skyfather level beings like Ares, Circe and Cronos. She even faced down the Lotus Flower....It's likely a stalemate between the two because they have excellent defenses to any offenses they plan to make....
Originally posted by K3VIL
Diana can face skyfather?Draco I usually agree with you, but I'd like proof of her being on a skyfather level, or maybe should I assume DC Skyfathers are under Marvel ones?
And I don't believe she can take all Thor can dish out.
DC Skyfathers are obscure and not attention-whores like Marvel's. Their feats usually comprise of busting a planet, remaking reality or creating a new galaxy to play in.
Thor's attacks are going to buffered by two things:
A) Her incredible resistance to magic given to her by the Divine Mother Gaea.
B) Those nifty bracelets that deflected an ultimate attack from the entire Greek Pantheon.
Thor's most powerful attack (a Godblast) won't get past her bracelets. Neither will his other attacks.
Any attacks that DO get past will be shrugged off by her high magical resistance.
Diana's lasso or tiara can end the battle instantly if she uses it right...
Originally posted by Draco69
DC Skyfathers are obscure and not attention-whores like Marvel's. Their feats usually comprise of busting a planet, remaking reality or creating a new galaxy to play in.Thor's attacks are going to buffered by two things:
A) Her incredible resistance to magic given to her by the Divine Mother Gaea.
B) Those nifty bracelets that deflected an ultimate attack from the entire Greek Pantheon.
Thor's most powerful attack (a Godblast) won't get past her bracelets. Neither will his other attacks.
Any attacks that DO get past will be shrugged off by her high magical resistance.
Diana's lasso or tiara can end the battle instantly if she uses it right...
Agreed, and Diana has Faced an angry zeus. She faces Circe all the time, who is sky Father lvl or more. Hell Circe turned all the pantheons on thier ears. Diana isn't magical clay anymore. The clay was never really magic. It was normal clay, that the God's brought to life with the living soul of the unborn child that Diana's mother lost way back in the cave man days. But any advantage Thor would have over superman in the form of magic is severly lessened against diana. It's probably a stalemate.