What has God done for you? (Christians only!)

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Well he would, because he can do absolutely everything that can be done- he can't do things that cannot be done though...

What? Are you saying that there are things that god cannot do? That would mean that god is not Omnipotent.

om·nip·o·tent (m-np-tnt)
adj.
Having unlimited or universal power, authority, or force; all-powerful.
n.
1. One having unlimited power or authority: the bureaucratic omnipotents.
2. Omnipotent God. Used with the.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Well he would, because he can do absolutely everything that can be done- he can't do things that cannot be done though...

All powerful doesn't mean you can do things that can't be done...

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Well he would, because he can do absolutely everything that can be done- he can't do things that cannot be done though...

How the hell would that make sense?

It is basically like using your mind: If you imagine a rock, you can move it. Not matter the size, it is of your mind. If you can think it, it is done.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
All powerful doesn't mean you can do things that can't be done...

It's a difference in definition. As I said. The common one, though, is the one where nothing can limit what you can do.

Originally posted by Bardock42
It's a difference in definition. As I said. The common one, though, is the one where nothing can limit what you can do.

I don't see how one can confuse the definition. Just because it hasn't been done does not mean it can be if one is all-powerful.

Originally posted by chithappens
How the hell would that make sense?

It is basically like using your mind: If you imagine a rock, you can move it. Not matter the size, it is of your mind. If you can think it, it is done.

I think that's just about exactly the definition he's using.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I think that's just about exactly the definition he's using.

So I guess he means if it is not ALREADY there (or imagined/created/whatever) then it can't be done?

Originally posted by chithappens
So I guess he means if it is not ALREADY there (or imagined/created/whatever) then it can't be done?

I think it's more like "If God can imagine how to do it, he can do it."

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I think it's more like "If God can imagine how to do it, he can do it."

So, god has a limit on his imagination? 😂

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, god has a limit on his imagination? 😂

Much like anyone/anything else.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Much like anyone/anything else.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Then he's not omnipotent in the common definition of the word.

Yes, and I don't think GMG was arguing that he's omnipotent in the common definition.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yes, and I don't think GMG was arguing that he's omnipotent in the common definition.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Much like anyone/anything else.

Then this god is not a real god because there could be something greater.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Then this god is not a real god because there could be something greater.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Then this god is not a real god because there could be something greater.

Not if God declared that no greater being existed (an imaginable world) which he did.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Seemed to me that he was.

I was trying to introduce an alternative interpretation of Omnipotence, as put forward by Plato.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnipotence#Meanings_of_omnipotence

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not if God declared that no greater being existed (an imaginable world) which he did.

But because he is limited he would not have the authority to make that claim.

😆 It's just all so silly. 😉

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
I was trying to introduce an alternative interpretation of Omnipotence, as put forward by Plato.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnipotence#Meanings_of_omnipotence