What has God done for you? (Christians only!)

Started by Regret32 pages

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Pedanticism.

The leaders of the anglo christian church, then. 🙄

Your lack of response to the rest of the post has been noted though.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I highly doubt it....

"Pain" by Jimmy Eat world, does not make me suicidal.

"Buttons" by Pussy Cat Dolls doesn't make me any hornier or freakier than I already am.

"Party up" by DMX doesn't make me want to go into a violent senseless rage.

"Crazy in love" by Beyonce does not make me fall in love with anyone.

"Dreams" by the Cranberries does not turn me any gayer....

Yet, I listen to those songs over and over, and the only thing they do is entertain me.

They in no way, shape, or form alter my beliefs or mentality, nor do they shape my identity.

Hence: "perhaps minimally, and maybe insignificantly"

It is a falsehood to claim that the environment and your history "in no way, shape, or form alter your beliefs or mentality, nor do they shape your identity." Everything you come into contact with has an impact. You are stating an absolute in error. It may minimally or insignificantly impact you, but it does, in some way, impact you.

Originally posted by Regret
Hence: "perhaps minimally, and maybe insignificantly"

It is a falsehood to claim that the environment and your history "in no way, shape, or form alter your beliefs or mentality, nor do they shape your identity." Everything you come into contact with has an impact. You are stating an absolute in error. It may minimally or insignificantly impact you, but it does, in some way, impact you.

Not in any way that matters. 😉

Violent and Hateful lyrics could only offend me or make me laugh. They will in no way make me hate someone for no reason, or become violent for no reason.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Not in any way that matters. 😉

Violent and Hateful lyrics could only offend me or make me laugh. They will in no way make me hate someone for no reason, or become violent for no reason.

Originally posted by Alliance
and who are you to determine what "matters?" (edited by Regret)

God has done EVERYTHIN 4 me!!! THANK U GOD!!! Oh! n I m NOT a christian n I think the whole point of askin only christians that was wrong as other ppl blieve in GOd too u kno.

Originally posted by maham
God has done EVERYTHIN 4 me!!! THANK U GOD!!! Oh! n I m NOT a christian n I think the whole point of askin only christians that was wrong as other ppl blieve in GOd too u kno.

But they don't care about you or me. 😆

Originally posted by Regret
Hence: "perhaps minimally, and maybe insignificantly"

It is a falsehood to claim that the environment and your history "in no way, shape, or form alter your beliefs or mentality, nor do they shape your identity." Everything you come into contact with has an impact. You are stating an absolute in error. It may minimally or insignificantly impact you, but it does, in some way, impact you.

Its also a gross error to overplay the significance of every small event in your life.

There is a point where something is so small it doesn't matter any more. And there is no point in trying to control it.

You exist in a world, you don't get to build your own.

Originally posted by Alliance
and who are you determine what is "wholesome?"

I would declare something wholesome if what it suggests does not contradict the Bible. I willingly admit that I don't always follow those criteria though. I do not believe that listening to unwholesome music automatically effects a person, but I know that it does affect some and this is why we must be careful.

Originally posted by Alliance
Its also a gross error to overplay the significance of every small event in your life.

There is a point where something is so small it doesn't matter any more. And there is no point in trying to control it.

You exist in a world, you don't get to build your own.

I am not meaning to overplay the significance of the impact music has on individuals. It is simply a fact that everything in the environment impacts our behavior, I dislike it when people try to claim that it doesn't. Total freedom is a fallacy, life impacts everyone, experience shapes behavior. If a person comes into contact with anything it impacts perceptions, it is unavoidable.

My point is that "You exist in a world, you don't get to build your own."

Originally posted by Regret
I am not meaning to overplay the significance of the impact music has on individuals.

I think we are both coming out that way. Oh well. Environment does affect an individual and I think music has a very minor affect compared to human interaction.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I think we are both coming out that way. Oh well. Environment does affect an individual and I think music has a very minor affect compared to human interaction.

Music with intense lyrics can only brainwash a person who already has a pre-disposition to the opinion or point of view that the lyrics promote.

If you're a racist, then hate-music is only going to strengthen your views.

If you're not any sort of bigot, then hate-music will not have any real affect on your bias.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Music with intense lyrics can only brainwash a person who already has a pre-disposition to the opinion or point of view that the lyrics promote.

If you're a racist, then hate-music is only going to strengthen your views.

If you're not any sort of bigot, then hate-music will not have any real affect on your bias.

However, if there is a flaw in the heart of a person, then enough exposure to an un-pure (remember I am not a Christian) thought will erode the foundation of that person’s view of reality. Example: A white man who grew up with many black friends would never consider himself a racist. He one day finds himself far away from home and among people who do not life blacks. Over a course of three years this man tuned into a racist. How did this happen? He didn’t realize it at first but his parents were ever so slightly prejudices. This was a flaw in the man’s heart. Then the constant influence of his new friends, who all claimed to be good people, changed the way this man thought. He now saw things in a way that fueled the hate that was once only a small ember.

We are a product of our environment, if we let any evil into our lives it will have a small effect, and a small effect over enough time can do great harm.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
However, if there is a flaw in the heart of a person, then enough exposure to an un-pure (remember I am not a Christian) thought will erode the foundation of that person’s view of reality. Example: A white man who grew up with many black friends would never consider himself a racist. He one day finds himself far away from home and among people who do not life blacks. Over a course of three years this man tuned into a racist. How did this happen? He didn’t realize it at first but his parents were ever so slightly prejudices. This was a flaw in the man’s heart. Then the constant influence of his new friends, who all claimed to be good people, changed the way this man thought. He now saw things in a way that fueled the hate that was once only a small ember.

We are a product of our environment, if we let any evil into our lives it will have a small effect, and a small effect over enough time can do great harm.

Influence from peers is much stronger than influence from musical lyrics 😉

Musical Lyrics do not have the ability to answer your logic back, while peers have the ability to argue with you and constantly counter all your previous thoughts and replace them with thier own.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Influence from peers is much stronger than influence from musical lyrics 😉

Musical Lyrics do not have the ability to answer your logic back, while peers have the ability to argue with you and constantly counter all your previous thoughts and replace them with thier own.

Agreed, but just because lyrics are a weaker influence does not discount their power over long enough time. The corruption simply takes longer.

Also, some people are more susceptible to the influence of music lyrics then someone with more independence.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But they don't care about you or me. 😆

Who don't?

Originally posted by maham
Who don't?

Christians. 😉

The question is not what God can do for you, but what you can do for God! 😆

*assassination*

Originally posted by Alliance
*assassination*

Character assassination, physical assassination, or, as one of the greatest droids ever suggested - psychological assassination?

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Character assassination, physical assassination, or, as one of the greatest droids ever suggested - psychological assassination?

Wasn't that HK who said that?

Originally posted by Deus Venèficus
Wasn't that HK who said that?

Yes, the indefatigable and highly distinguished HK-47.