ESB, Exar ran away and hid...it didn't 'take' that many Jedi to stop him and he managed to screw himself over and trap himself. Match Sidious in every way? What's he done to put him up there with a guy who can destroy fleets? Killed Luke's Academy single handedly? Is this why they joined forces into a single power of light that totally wasted Exar?
And maybe Sidious doesn't kill many Sith because of the, y'know, combo of being the strongest around and the Rule of Two
Originally posted by Lightsnake
ESB, Exar ran away and hid...it didn't 'take' that many Jedi to stop him and he managed to screw himself over and trap himself. Match Sidious in every way? What's he done to put him up there with a guy who can destroy fleets? Killed Luke's Academy single handedly? Is this why they joined forces into a single power of light that totally wasted Exar?And maybe Sidious doesn't kill many Sith because of the, y'know, combo of being the strongest around and the Rule of Two
well heres the thing, read properly and you will see hundred of jedis in ships, play kotor and here jolee say hundred jedis, the whole council to stop him.
and exar got totally wasted because he cant so sh!t as a spirit. he has to possess some1 just like sidious doing it to other people when he dies.
see? thats something similar.
and by the time after the movies sidious doesnt giv a damm about the rule of 2, he wouldnt give a damm about other sith in the galaxy as long as they dont oppose him, since he is mofo he will use them for his dirty work while he sits there cracking jokes about his mother 😮💨
Exar didn't fight a single jedi of all those, get your facts straight, it doesn't prove anything...
That is like if a Navy Seal team of 10 persons storm a house with one madman with a gun, does that mean they require all 10 Seals to take him down? No. Do they wanna be on the safe side? Yes....
So Exar as a spirit could only take other peoples power. Then your point about him defeating Luke is NOTHING, since Exar himself did nothing of the power part, only the knowledge. And Luke didn't want to hurt Kyp either, so point moot...
Originally posted by ESB Vader
well heres the thing, read properly and you will see hundred of jedis in ships, play kotor and here jolee say hundred jedis, the whole council to stop him.and exar got totally wasted because he cant so sh!t as a spirit. he has to possess some1 just like sidious doing it to other people when he dies.
see? thats something similar.and by the time after the movies sidious doesnt giv a damm about the rule of 2, he wouldnt give a damm about other sith in the galaxy as long as they dont oppose him, since he is mofo he will use them for his dirty work while he sits there cracking jokes about his mother 😮💨
to kam
proof? luke can punk exars spirit and it never said in his physical form,
ok maybe not thousands but hundreds, read the comic and see, and listen to jolees rambling about exar kun. luke at that time knew nothing of exar, so? if he was physical he would have drained luke.
and at that time DLOTS and TSW did not exist and therefore exars true powers were unkown,
and when exar got into kyp, exar was using kyps power not his, its just kyps power increased, no force drain, no amulet, no sh!t just kyps powers at great levels
Originally posted by kamikz
Exar didn't fight a single jedi of all those, get your facts straight, it doesn't prove anything...
That is like if a Navy Seal team of 10 persons storm a house with one madman with a gun, does that mean they require all 10 Seals to take him down? No. Do they wanna be on the safe side? Yes....So Exar as a spirit could only take other peoples power. Then your point about him defeating Luke is NOTHING, since Exar himself did nothing of the power part, only the knowledge. And Luke didn't want to hurt Kyp either, so point moot...
yes ur damm right about that, my point is the original exar could have been a match but well we dont know if his amulet can stop green lightning, anyways we are going off topic
darg double post, sorry
Originally posted by ESB Vader
to kam
proof? luke can punk exars spirit and it never said in his physical form,
ok maybe not thousands but hundreds, read the comic and see, and listen to jolees rambling about exar kun. luke at that time knew nothing of exar, so? if he was physical he would have drained luke.and at that time DLOTS and TSW did not exist and therefore exars true powers were unkown,
and when exar got into kyp, exar was using kyps power not his, its just kyps power increased, no force drain, no amulet, no sh!t just kyps powers at great levels
Did you not read? It was hundreds or thousands, but he DID NOT FIGHT A SINGLE ONE. Point moot....
See, this proves nothing of Exar. Kyp's potential was one of the highest ever witnessed, and if Exar could use that kind of potential together with his sith knowledge and his power as a spirit, it would be damn good...
Sidious knew possibly the highest aspect of drain, yet he could not do that to DE Luke....
Originally posted by kamikz
Did you not read? It was hundreds or thousands, but he DID NOT FIGHT A SINGLE ONE. Point moot....See, this proves nothing of Exar. Kyp's potential was one of the highest ever witnessed, and if Exar could use that kind of potential together with his sith knowledge and his power as a spirit, it would be damn good...
Sidious knew possibly the highest aspect of drain, yet he could not do that to DE Luke....
proves nothing? there were hundreds of them in ships and how is he gonna punk em?
and him being able to freeze the entire senate and kill his master? i doubt kyp could do that, he drawed and use kyps power not his own when he fought luke,
and him killing freedon nadd? whom is supposely far stronger than malak and revan? he who destroyed sadows sith illusion is nothing?
exar kun is only halfway into his potential.
No, it proves nothing. Did you ignore my points above? He knew he wasn't a match, so he left his spirit inside the massis temple. He did not even try to fight them. That number shows nothing about his power...
Kyp could move a black hole with the force, doubt Kun could do that...
Exactly, which proves NOTHING of Exar's power, but Kyp's..
If you get so weak by being a spirit, then Freedon Nadd shouldn't be anything either now should he?
Originally posted by kamikz
No, it proves nothing. Did you ignore my points above? He knew he wasn't a match, so he left his spirit inside the massis temple. He did not even try to fight them. That number shows nothing about his power...Kyp could move a black hole with the force, doubt Kun could do that...
Exactly, which proves NOTHING of Exar's power, but Kyp's..
If you get so weak by being a spirit, then Freedon Nadd shouldn't be anything either now should he?
andi dont see kyp draining any1 as exar can do, certeinly kyp cant fight an army of jedi. stop ur ignorant fanboyism, its u who ignore my points, as i said, exar aint even close to fufill his destiny.
and even if exar left his spirit in the temple he still lived, kyp couldnt do that, y? cuz he aint strong enough
and freedon nadd shouldnt be anything? OFCOURSE!
then why he control kyps body? had he been there he would have killed kyp.
kun is an ancient dark lord of the sith, who froze an entire senate while he takes down an experienced jedi master.
that still proves nothing? he hasnt even used the amulet to its full potential.
lamikiz, please stop your ignorant fanboyism, i seen some of it in you posts in many other forums
Originally posted by ESB Vader
do u know exars potential? it took over a hundred jedi or prehaps a thousand just to stop exar and not kill himexar got his ass kicked because he is only a spirit, like i said had he been in his body he would have killed lukes academy single handed. exar is NOT to be underestimated and he seems to be able to match sidious in every way,
No you dolt, it didn't take over a hundred Jedi to kill him. They decided to use all of the Jedi to be sure that he wouldn't survive, that is all. Exar Kun didn't kill a single of those jedi, instead choosing to release his undead soul. Obviously he ****ed up because his spirit was trapped inside the Massassi temple.
Originally posted by ESB Vader
andi dont see kyp draining any1 as exar can do, certeinly kyp cant fight an army of jedi. stop ur ignorant fanboyism, its u who ignore my points, as i said, exar aint even close to fufill his destiny.and even if exar left his spirit in the temple he still lived, kyp couldnt do that, y? cuz he aint strong enough
and freedon nadd shouldnt be anything? OFCOURSE!
then why he control kyps body? had he been there he would have killed kyp.kun is an ancient dark lord of the sith, who froze an entire senate while he takes down an experienced jedi master.
that still proves nothing? he hasnt even used the amulet to its full potential.
lamikiz, please stop your ignorant fanboyism, i seen some of it in you posts in many other forums
FANBOYISM. Yeegosh you who haven't proved a thing...
Exar didn't fight the ****ing army, he just went into the temple and released his spirit into it. He didn't even face A SINGLE JEDI at that time...
When did Kun drain anyone?
WTF. Stop posting irrelivent feats. I'm sure Exar couldn't move black holes, or destroy an army of Vong, but that doesn't really make a point for Kyp either now does it?
Oh lord. First of all, when the hell did FREEDON NADD control Kyp's body? Second, proof? Wait, I'll do the same...
"If Kyp lived at Exar's time he could have owned everyone...."
^ That is as much proof as what you provided...
Zomg, coolz. He couldn't freeze a single jedi so point moot....
And that experienced Jedi Master hasn't really got much going for him at the moment. Kyp was rated as second best jedi in Luke's academy, that includes the likes of Jacen and Kyle, which would obliderate Vodo....
Well show me what it could do. Because the amulet was used by him at a sith wyrm when he couldn't control it, does that mean it is better when he can? Not really...
He almost killed himself with it, I doubt he wanted to do the same again. It's like if you find a grenade launcher and shoot a bullet at a lion rushing at you. The thing almost blows your head off when the impact occurs. You realize it is to dangerous to use in such close distance, and instead you master the weapon, and instead uses smaller grenades, which could be deadly, but does not kill yourself as well...
Oh really, I rarley post on the SW VS forum, only if I really want something said. I've seen your posts here, and I can tell that no one here agrees with you for the majority of the times....
Originally posted by kamikz
Well show me what it could do. Because the amulet was used by him at a sith wyrm when he couldn't control it, does that mean it is better when he can? Not really...
That doesn't make very much sense, but whatever. Kun was able to direct the amulet blast when he knew absolutely jack shit about it or anything of the Darkside. To assume that after he's mastered Sadow's teachings, and became fully immersed in the Darkside ("the darkest power in the galaxy"😉 that he won't be able to control the amulet, and produce the same magnitude is ridiculous.
He almost killed himself with it, I doubt he wanted to do the same again.
Yeah! I doubt he'd want to use it again, despite immediately after he destroyed the Sith Wyrm, he uses it to destroy Freedon Nadd's spirit.
Please. It did not "almost destroy him". Exar says that it burned his hand, but right after the event - before he kills Nadd's spirit - we see a close up of the same hand with no burns. Exar had no clue what he was talking about at the moment.
It's like if you find a grenade launcher and shoot a bullet at a lion rushing at you. The thing almost blows your head off when the impact occurs. You realize it is to dangerous to use in such close distance, and instead you master the weapon, and instead uses smaller grenades, which could be deadly, but does not kill yourself as well...
However, this is Star Wars. What do you think would happen if someone fell three hundred feet to the ground? Land on their feet? WTF.
Anyways, there's nothing at all that shows us he's used the amulet blast to a lesser degree. And there's also no reason to believe he would make it of a smaller magnitude, unless you're going to tell me this isn't close:
They're two separate thumbnails btw. I always thought being no more than two yards away was pretty close.
And ESB Vader. . . just a big "WTF".
Originally posted by Advent
That doesn't make very much sense, but whatever. Kun was able to direct the amulet blast when he knew absolutely jack shit about it or anything of the Darkside. To assume that after he's mastered Sadow's teachings, and became fully immersed in the Darkside ("the darkest power in the galaxy"😉 that he won't be able to control the amulet, and produce the same magnitude is ridiculous.
Assuming that he couldn't use it again-ridiculous. Assuming he can create the same magnitude, ESPECIALLY during a fight, is also ridiculous. If he didn't use it on Vodo, or Aleema, or Ulic, what in the world makes you think he's going to whip it out and use it on Sidious? And at the same magnitude? You do know that even if he magically does get it to that magnitude, it takes time to increase. He would be dead by then.
Yeah! I doubt he'd want to use it again, despite immediately after he destroyed the Sith Wyrm, he uses it to destroy Freedon Nadd's spirit.
Please. It did not "almost destroy him". Exar says that it burned his hand, but right after the event - before he kills Nadd's spirit - we see a close up of the same hand with no burns. Exar had no clue what he was talking about at the moment.
Then I suppose there's no reason to assume that just because Exar Kun stated he would master all of Sadow's teachings, that he did.
Didn't Exar say that it almost killed him, by the time he said "so I'm gonna master it". That line??? That pretty much describes that it was very dangerous to use, especially since he said that was why he needed to master it, cause he didn't want to risk dying. And he could only do that, by decreasing the beam he used. (As shown when he uses it against... what's her name... Nomi????).
If I got the line wrong, then I agree with you....
And DS, I never said that he couldn't do it, I said I doubted he would....
Originally posted by kamikz
Didn't Exar say that it almost killed him, by the time he said "so I'm gonna master it". That line??? That pretty much describes that it was very dangerous to use, especially since he said that was why he needed to master it, cause he didn't want to risk dying. And he could only do that, by decreasing the beam he used. (As shown when he uses it against... what's her name... Nomi????).
If I got the line wrong, then I agree with you....And DS, I never said that he couldn't do it, I said I doubted he would....
proof that he said it almost killed him? he used it 3 times, 1 on the wyrm, 1 on nadd and he tried to blast ulic, and it didnt "almost" kill him.
u rarely post because u cant debate
Originally posted by Advent
And ESB Vader. . . just a big "[b]WTF". [/B]
huh? what?
to kamikz
FANBOYISM. Yeegosh you who haven't proved a thing...
Exar didn't fight the ****ing army, he just went into the temple and released his spirit into it. He didn't even face A SINGLE JEDI at that time...
When did Kun drain anyone?
WTF. Stop posting irrelivent feats. I'm sure Exar couldn't move black holes, or destroy an army of Vong, but that doesn't really make a point for Kyp either now does it?
Oh lord. First of all, when the hell did FREEDON NADD control Kyp's body? Second, proof? Wait, I'll do the same...
"If Kyp lived at Exar's time he could have owned everyone...."
^ That is as much proof as what you provided...
Zomg, coolz. He couldn't freeze a single jedi so point moot....
And that experienced Jedi Master hasn't really got much going for him at the moment. Kyp was rated as second best jedi in Luke's academy, that includes the likes of Jacen and Kyle, which would obliderate Vodo....
Well show me what it could do. Because the amulet was used by him at a sith wyrm when he couldn't control it, does that mean it is better when he can? Not really...
He almost killed himself with it, I doubt he wanted to do the same again. It's like if you find a grenade launcher and shoot a bullet at a lion rushing at you. The thing almost blows your head off when the impact occurs. You realize it is to dangerous to use in such close distance, and instead you master the weapon, and instead uses smaller grenades, which could be deadly, but does not kill yourself as well...
Oh really, I rarley post on the SW VS forum, only if I really want something said. I've seen your posts here, and I can tell that no one here agrees with you for the majority of the times....
those r ur words.
number 1, idc if people agree with me or not because no1 agrees with any1 in this forums
and prove lukes student can own kuns master? u dont have any,
and exar kun being an apprentice able to wield a sith amulet is something.
and in dark apprentice,
didnt exar kun HIMSELF as a spirit was going to destroy luke until the whole academy sent his soul to oblivion?
o yes and luke was out flat.
obviously exar wasnt strong enough to fight the entire jedi council on yavin 4, even kyp couldnt do that, and since when kyp manipulated black holes, wasnt it luke who did?
and where exar kun force drain? i got th info from many many sources.
no and not freeze a jedi but thousands of people in the senate, paralysing them with fear.
and he hadnt fought? didnt he fight that jedi master on ossus? the alien with the green saber?
didnt he fought vodo siok baas? his master? in the senate?
and vodo is somewhat like yoda always being so called wise, patient this and that. even at exars final moments before he is vanquished, his master was there to aid to destroy him.
and that pic advent posted proved that exar uses it instantly at great magnitude against the sith illusion with "tremendous power"
