and finally there is NOTHING to suggest Sidious can't create a force storm on Kun while Kun gets himself angry by whatever method.
Wouldn't his fight be a life or death situation? Much like his battle against the Sith Wyrm, so as you say, "it's a life or death situation". Plus, what do you mean "get himself angry"? I wasn't aware the amulet only increases your anger every now and then. As it would seem, it's a constant effect given the fact it takes effect immediately after it's equipped without Kun having to give any acknowledgment.
So instead of telling me I'm not proving my side, try and answer those questions without the irrelevant "omg hes the darkest power" quotes.
1.) You didn't ask any question, you dolt.
2.) Quit misrepresenting my side. I don't purely claim just because he's the darkest power in the galaxy, that he'll be able to use it. So, just stop that bullshit.
3.) The more attuned you become to the Darkside, it's obvious the more Darkside aspects fill your body. Such as rage, anger, and hatred, but I'm sure you already knew that. It's not like Anakin went crazy when he turned to the Darkside. It's not like Darth Maul hates the Jedi. And a point with Maul is that he was able to get himself worked in a frenzy when fighting Obi-Wan.
Oh, so the amulet increases by itself, all Kun has to do is put it on right? His rage has nothing to do with it right? Oh wait.
Quit with the "oh waits", it's rather stupid when you realize that I never said the things you're trying to interpret. How does his rage affect the simple fact that the amulet increases rage by thousands? Notice I'm not talking about the amulet multiplying the "dark rage that fills his heart", I'm just merely talking about the amulets properties of increasing.
As opposed to "omg he said he learned everything so he has", schnucumbs.
Straw man. And also, you're skirting the point. Now, answer the question: So, because there was no one on his level to even pose a threat to use the amulet on, he can't do it against Sidious?
This is conclusive? What teachings Sama? And where does this prove that Kun learned everything?
What are you talking about? I'm not talking solely about his knowledge, I'm talking about the fact the situation never arose for him to use the amulet again. Please, read what I wrote:
So, because there was no one on his level to even pose a threat, he can't do it/didn't learn everything? Wow. That's sound logic, pal.
What's your point?
Somebody's missing the original point. You said he never used it again, ergo he won't use it now, and I listed people he fought after he defeated the Sith Wyrm, and I'm saying none of them posed a threat, save for Ulic - in which the fight was interrupted. Let me explain this simply:
The. Situation. To. Use. The. Amulet. Never. Arose. Again.
So, please
Read. Your. Original. Point.
Oh, you mean what looked like a force choke on a 1,000+ year old Jedi Master who hasn't used his patented maneuver in over 1,000 years? Oh that REALLY puts Kun on a pedastal. By your definition Ulic must have been a real ***** to get curbstomped by Nomi, whether he was looking or not.
*sigh* You're hopeless. I'm not even arguing the people Kun fought are impressive. I'm talking about the fact no one posed a viable threat to Kun, so who was he going to use it on?
And again, quit trying to discredit Odan Urr. Obviously Odan didn't just say to Nomi, "I empower you with the power to strip people". She had to be taught, and considering she was proficient in it - it's logical to assume Odan still was able to use the technique. Plus, there is no "by my definition" because you're completely missing the point, and being a clown by saying shit like that when you don't even know what you're talking about.
Or it's more logical to assume that he didn't master it, because it's clear that he didn't master all of Sadow's teachings, or he wouldn't have gotten himself trapped inside the Massassi temple.
Of course. I mean it's not like the all the Jedi in the galaxy just used a "Wall of Light" technique in unison while Exar was releasing his spirit.
Big difference between him using the amulet again, and him using it to the degree he did. I can just as well say that he was so scared of his inability to control the amulet after the first blast, that he never used it again, or never used it to that extent.
He was "scared"? I don't recall him saying that he was so frightened he wouldn't use it's power ever again. Especially considering he used the amulet and stuck his fist through Nadd's spirit immediately after. And again, even if it would destroy him, he was aiming to master it so it wouldn't. And your only evidence that he didn't master the amulet is "he didn't use it again". It's a perfectly sound explanation in some alternate universe where logic doesn't exist.
So is the fact that Sidious plans on sitting there taking a dump waiting for the Amulet blast to take considerable power
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Well, since you're just so fond of not directly answering the point, and responding with some - as I said - horribly placed sarcastic comments, I'll just repost:
Oh, how could I forget! The part where the amulet takes effect immediately. Now, why would the amulet just increase every now and then? It probably wouldn't. If anything it's a constant effect (those of you familiar with the Elder Scrolls series know what I'm talking about), even if it's not - even if the amulet increases when Exar "wants" it to, or whatever (IDK), the amulet multiplied his rage with nanoseconds of clamping on to his arm, to assume it will take light years or even a minute or two to multiply is pretty insane.
Can you prove the initial blast was Instant? I didn't think so.
First, let me start off by saying if you're not going to answer my questions, or respond properly - don't ask me to do anything, so answer the question: Now, if you'd be so kind - explain, if it's not "instant", what is it? What proof can you offer to say that it won't increase within the same amount of time it took to equip it? And if you notice, I'm not talking about the blast - I'm talking about the multiplying properties. Just making this clear so you don't run off with some "etc, etc, etc" as usual.
Secondly: Yeah, I mean this isn't anything like instantaneous:
Just the next slide immediately after it clamps on, and Exar realizes what he can do - it's appears. Ta da! And anyways, you think it was anything but instant? I thought he was in a life or death situation, I doubt he'd be alive even after thirty seconds. That Sith Wyrm would've obliterated him.
You forgot being trapped inside the Massassi temple.
Yeah, perhaps because all the Jedi in the known galaxy appeared in orbit above Yavin, to use a "Wall of Light" technique at one time, in unison:
And the NEC says, on page 20: "As the Jedi forces in orbit generate a wall of light that bombarded the thick jungles, Exar Kun drained the power from his Massassi slaves". So, the wall of light when on as Exar was doing it. And from what we've seen before:
A wall of light imprisoned Ulic.
THe sad fact is that you cannot prove that he mastered all of Sadow's teachings, nobody can. So bringing up a moot point as fact, and telling me I have no argument, is quite ridiculous.
Absence of proof is not proof of absence. It would actually seem he did master Sadow's teachings given what I've listed. Why don't you address all my points next time instead of just drifting off in one sentence:
- Froze thousands upon thousands of Senators, and controlled them more than likely. Hundreds of thousands even given the size of the place, and it was filled to the top.
- Blasted Aleema with Sith magic that incapacitated here.
- Created numerous alchemical monsters.
- Built a sphere to trap the Massassi life energy.
[Query]: if he didn't master them, what reason would he have to gain more stuff if he hadn't even fully learned what he had right in front of him? We can also add in the fact he said that if he didn't master them, it'd "easily destroy" him. I highly doubt he'd know all that shit by just reading bedtime stories. And we come to the conclusion with the fact that absence of proof is not proof of absence. Understand that, and it works in this case because we have a strong premise to go on, which would be the aforementioned list.
That is what we call logical deduction. List + absence of proof is not proof of absence + misc. statements.
