Was Hitler...EVIL?

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Originally posted by Robtard
Main Entry: [B]Evil
Pronunciation: 'E-v&l, Britain often and US also 'E-("😉vil
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): evil·er or evil·ler; evil·est or evil·lest
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English yfel; akin to Old High German ubil evil
1 a : morally reprehensible : SINFUL, WICKED <an evil impulse> b : arising from actual or imputed bad character or conduct <a person of evil reputation>
2 a archaic : INFERIOR b : causing discomfort or repulsion : OFFENSIVE <an evil odor> c : DISAGREEABLE <woke late and in an evil temper>
3 a : causing harm : PERNICIOUS <the evil institution of slavery> b : marked by misfortune : UNLUCKY
- evil adverb, archaic
- evil·ly /-(l)E/ adverb
- evil·ness /-n&s/ noun

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Hitler = Evil, by the way most people measure it. [/B]

Both those example don#t refer to People though and they are also all subjective.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Any proof of that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler

I mean there is enough proof in history books.

Originally posted by Brutacus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler

I mean there is enough proof in history books.

Hey I know what he did. I meant proof that what he did was evil.

we have already provided you with what we see as proof. he killed millions. in our opinion, he was evil.

Is he god??? no, so what gave him the right to kill millions of people only because he THOUGHT he was right or his idea's where right??

That make's him evil.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Both those example don#t refer to People though and they are also all subjective.

Well, we as people are the judge of Evil and Good. Of course a Nazi wouldn't consider what Hitler did was evil, since said Nazi would have Hitler's viewpoints. But generally speaking, most people know right from wrong in a collective form. Most people would agree that murder and rape are wrong (evil) while being charitable to those less fortunate is the right thing to do (good). Hence, we can judge what Hitler did as being evil. Is there some definitive universal definition of 'evil' somewhere out there, well no one knows; I do not think we can apply the laws of physics to 'evil'... So we judge by what we do know.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
we have already provided you with what we see as proof. he killed millions. in our opinion, he was evil.

Yeah, in your opinion he was evil good, good.

Now anyone claiming that Hitler was Evil (outside of their opinion) please provide proof. Oh look an alliteration...hehehehehe.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
People often describe Hitler as a monster, or as evil, when Der Untergang came out alot of German Reporters asked if it was right for Hitler to be portrayed so humanly.

But, Hitler was a devout supporter of the Survival of the Fittest theory, he believed that the strong had to survive and to do this it involved destroying the weak, and so, the concentration camps where set up and millions where gassed and killed...but

Is the extreme take on, what is effectively Darwinism, actually evil?

To say that Hitler was evil would suggest that he was devoid of Human emotion and soul...but, it is clear if you read the reports of those who knew him that this wasn't the case.

In fact, he did do what HE felt was best for humanity...so he wasn't acting out of malice but HE thought he was doing what was right.

Although he may have been wrong and his beliefs on what is right and wrong where extremely warped, does that actually make him evil?

Hitler certainly wasn't neccasarily a good man...but I wouldn't say he was evil. I believe that perhaps he may have had a mental problem or something like that though the darwinizm theory is possible. The whole Aryan race thing is ridiculous but it was his belief. I woudn't say he's evil...just kind of crazy.

first tell us why you think he was not evil.

Originally posted by vraya the great
Hitler certainly wasn't neccasarily a good man...but I wouldn't say he was evil. I believe that perhaps he may have had a mental problem or something like that though the darwinizm theory is possible. The whole Aryan race thing is ridiculous but it was his belief. I woudn't say he's evil...just kind of crazy.

So than it's ok to kill millions of people??
Because he believed what he did was right?
Crazy or not that make's him evil.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
first tell us why you think he was not evil.

Cause there is no evidence that would imply that there is something as absolute evil. So since there is no evidence for that I would say we can assume that there isn't any or at least that we are absolutely not sure what it is. So Hitler either wasn't evil (which is likely) or he was one of the two (good or evil) but we don't know which and to what extend.

Originally posted by Brutacus
So than it's ok to kill millions of people??
Because he believed what he did was right?
Crazy or not that make's him evil.

Why. Where does it say absolutely, unchangeable and applying to everyone that killing someone is evil? Or is that just your opinion?

Originally posted by Brutacus
So than it's ok to kill millions of people??
Because he believed what he did was right?
Crazy or not that make's him evil.
*sigh* In the crusades thousands of muslims were killed (and thousands of catholics too) because of belief. The spartans killed brutally and by the thousands because of belief. In the civil war, many lost their lives because of different beliefs, yet all of the above by most people are not considered evil so how can we make an exception for hitler just because he was fighting for his belief. I'm not saying I think the whole Aryan race thing was right by any means but no human is purely evil, we just sometimes hold too strong to our beliefs.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Why. Where does it say absolutely, unchangeable and applying to everyone that killing someone is evil? Or is that just your opinion?

Well there is a law based on killing people doing crime, and well since you will be punished for killing someone it's evil simple as that.
Not my opinion it's just the LAW.

Originally posted by Brutacus
Well there is a law based on killing people doing crime, and well since you will be punished for killing someone it's evil simple as that.
Not my opinion it's just the LAW.
Oh yeah... I see you have no catchy comeback to my post *looks smug*

but anyways, laws don't really count in wars, so therefore it is your opinion so can you just say IMO in every one of your posts unless it's something like Oh yeah... I see you have no catchy comeback to my post *looks smug*

Originally posted by Bardock42
Cause there is no evidence that would imply that there is something as absolute evil. So since there is no evidence for that I would say we can assume that there isn't any or at least that we are absolutely not sure what it is. So Hitler either wasn't evil (which is likely) or he was one of the two (good or evil) but we don't know which and to what extend.

so what was going on in his mind as he ordered millions of innocent jews to their deaths?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
so what was going on in his mind as he ordered millions of innocent jews to their deaths?
craziness and a feeling of self-rightousness for completing what he believed was right.

Originally posted by Brutacus
Well there is a law based on killing people doing crime, and well since you will be punished for killing someone it's evil simple as that.
Not my opinion it's just the LAW.

Yeah, it's the Law. But Evil and the Law have not much to do with each other.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
so what was going on in his mind as he ordered millions of innocent jews to their deaths?

I don't know maybe "Man I like to butcher them innocent people" or "I hope people will see me as evilin the future" or" I like Macaroni with Cheese" ....what does it matter though?

[QUOTE=7296555]Originally posted by Bardock42
[B]Yeah, it's the Law. But Evil and the Law have not much to do with each other.

I don't know maybe "Man I like to butcher them innocent people"

he sounds like a nazi redneck!!!!! 😂

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
he sounds like a nazi redneck!!!!! 😂

Thanks.