Red Steel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5qwyoF1_oQ

This game looks fun as hell, and I don't even plan on buying a Wii.

I was really excited for this game, but I heard alot of disappoiting things at E3. I plan on getting a Wii, so I will still check it out.

Originally posted by AstroFan
I was really excited for this game, but I heard alot of disappoiting things at E3. I plan on getting a Wii, so I will still check it out.

They said it was thrown together real quickly for E3, so thats why it wasn't so good.

getting it on launch day...

It does look very impressive.

Wasnt they're a problem with the way it was controlled?

Something with the crosshair not always in the centre?

I think they decided on the crosshairs not being centered the whole time because that detracted from the way the camera moved... think about it, it's not a realistic movement. You move the gun and your eyes, but you don't move your entire torso.

But there were issues with how close to the edge of the screen you had to point to turn.

they're fixing it...they had problems at E3 because they recieved the wii kit late, so they had to work it very quickly..they also fixed the sword contols so that some moves are mapped, and some arent..they said this is because they want the player to be able to do things that's impossible to otherwise..
other features include throwing grenades with the nunchuk..

Originally posted by General Kaliero
I think they decided on the crosshairs not being centered the whole time because that detracted from the way the camera moved... think about it, it's not a realistic movement. You move the gun and your eyes, but you don't move your entire torso.

But there were issues with how close to the edge of the screen you had to point to turn.

I know why they did it, but if its like FPS with a mouse, you do the same movement.

The issue you talked about is the one i was thinking about about.

It doesn't look very appealing to me other than the novelty of using the controller as a sword and a gun. Which will probably get old quickly.

Hopefully they improve the graphics (I was suddenly reminded of the first Doom...) and implement new gameplay elements as well as a good story.

It wasnt that bad of graphics.

Why would the controller get old?

It's an FPS, and the controller is taking over for the mouse. Shooting is shooting. It doesnt matter if its an wand controlller or a mouse. I would think that the controller for the Wii would make a tad more interesting because you can interact with it more often.

Originally posted by Smasandian
It wasnt that bad of graphics.

The bad guys' faces look like blocks. Half-Life and Halo did a hell of better job.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Why would the controller get old?

It's an FPS, and the controller is taking over for the mouse. Shooting is shooting. It doesnt matter if its an wand controlller or a mouse. I would think that the controller for the Wii would make a tad more interesting because you can interact with it more often.

We already have a controller that can "interactively" shoot people. It's called the laser gun. It's been done before. And it was cool for awhile. Than it got old. Faking a swordstroke with a controller is novelty that will where off when your arm gets tired of waving.

They need to implement more than shooting to make it enjoyable. Better graphics, a storyline better than the gimmicky "oooh! Look you wave the controller, the sword cuts the bad guy", and more interactive play with the Wii controller other than shooting.

Also they need to fix the aiming and response of it as there's a reportable lag and certain amount of "offness" with the response of using the controller.

Red Steel can be a fairly good game if they get pass the gimmicky controls of the Wii.

This is precisely what I was worried about. Placing the novelty of the controller over actual depth of gameplay, graphics, storyline and everything else that makes the game.

They should take the Zelda/Mario route where they make Wii controller play innovatively as possible.

Originally posted by Draco69
The bad guys' faces look like blocks. Half-Life and Halo did a hell of better job.

Originally posted by Draco69
We already have a controller that can "interactively" shoot people. It's called the laser gun. It's been done before. And it was cool for awhile. Than it got old. Faking a swordstroke with a controller is novelty that will where off when your arm gets tired of waving.

Originally posted by Draco69
They need to implement more than shooting to make it enjoyable. Better graphics, a storyline better than the gimmicky "oooh! Look you wave the controller, the sword cuts the bad guy", and more interactive play with the Wii controller other than shooting.

Originally posted by Draco69
Also they need to fix the aiming and response of it as there's a reportable lag and certain amount of "offness" with the response of using the controller.

Originally posted by Draco69
This is precisely what I was worried about. Placing the novelty of the controller over actual depth of gameplay, graphics, storyline and everything else that makes the game.

I WANT THIS ALONG WITH ZELDA ON LAUNCH DAY!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by JToTheP
I WANT THIS ALONG WITH ZELDA ON LAUNCH DAY!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Draco69
The bad guys' faces look like blocks. Half-Life and Halo did a hell of better job.

We already have a controller that can "interactively" shoot people. It's called the laser gun. It's been done before. And it was cool for awhile. Than it got old. Faking a swordstroke with a controller is novelty that will where off when your arm gets tired of waving.

They need to implement more than shooting to make it enjoyable. Better graphics, a storyline better than the gimmicky "oooh! Look you wave the controller, the sword cuts the bad guy", and more interactive play with the Wii controller other than shooting.

Also they need to fix the aiming and response of it as there's a reportable lag and certain amount of "offness" with the response of using the controller.

Red Steel can be a fairly good game if they get pass the gimmicky controls of the Wii.

This is precisely what I was worried about. Placing the novelty of the controller over actual depth of gameplay, graphics, storyline and everything else that makes the game.

They should take the Zelda/Mario route where they make Wii controller play innovatively as possible.

How would you know that in this game, its a novelty? Or that the controller is off?

Have you played it yet?

The graphics are not compared to Half Life. That's a joke.

Heck the animations are pretty good actually.

I just think its a novelty, its not a light gun game because you control everything. How is that different than a mouse?

Originally posted by MadMel
note: that is E3 graphics..if you bothered to read my post, you would know that the developers got their wii kit late, so graphics had to be put together quickly. they are developing a new type of graphics for red steel.

Here's hoping they improve it....

Seriously it looked like a 1995 Doom.

Originally posted by MadMel
maybe you should throw out your mouse, because thats exactly what the wii-mote acts like...the mouse never gets old..its been used for as long as the computer has been created..why should wii be treated differently??

It's a glorified laser pistol. It's no different. You point the controller at the screen and press the button (i.e. trigger)

I don't know where people are getting the idea of a mouse. A mouse you glide across a smooth surface for nearly seemless control.

With the Wii TV remote, you point and you shoot moving your arm around. Like a laser pistol.

Originally posted by MadMel
*cough*grenades*cough*new AI developed*cough*

Whoop de doo. Grenades. How revolutionary. We never done have grenades in no game, yessiree!

Please. I was hoping they would think of something new with the remote. It has alot of potential to add new dimensions to a shooting game. But so far first impressions show nothing of the sort.

Originally posted by MadMel
..again, they had to make the E3 demo very quickly.

Again, first impressions aren't awe-inspiring nor promising. Apparently to you, it's quite impressive. That shows poor taste....

Originally posted by MadMel
..your too negative 😂

🙄

You're being a fanboy and acting like one. I'm apparently the only one who's not licking the boots of the Wii and is critical about how they would make their games.

Aren't you being "too negative" about the PS3 and its games? No. You're being critical about it. Which is the same with what I'm doing. Except I don't make excuses for them.

Nintendo needs this console to succeed after a decade of profit disappointment. Microsoft and Sony could lose this console and war and the next and their profit margins will barely be fazed.

But if anyone takes the time research Nintendo's financial portfolio, they would see (and analysts agree) that they REALLY need to do well this time. I mean, they have to sell millions upon millions.

Their low-cost, cheap technology strategy can only take them so far. They need to be more proactive with their technology and their games particularly in the American market. If they don't, they could very well go the way of Sega....

Originally posted by Smasandian
How would you know that in this game, its a novelty? Or that the controller is off?

IGN. Gamespot. Gametrailers. Accounts of those who have played the game. As MadMel stated, it was hash-bash job they put together at the very last minute to make E3.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Have you played it yet?

No. And from the looks of it, I don't want to. No interesting plotline. Gameplay is right out of arcade.

I'm calling it a novelty because of the "ooh you can move the remote around and shoot people!" gimmick. You have to do more than that to grab my attention.

Seriously, what's interesting about the game OTHER than the fact you can use the remote as a controller? Anyone? Yeah, I thought so. That's it. It's really no different from the laser pistol arcade game you played at Chuckie Cheese....

They need to add more innovative gameplay to make it hit launch title. If they don't, people will quickly see that's all the game is: a novelty to show off the remote's capabilities instead of the game itself. Which is sad.

Are you big fan of FPS?

Originally posted by Smasandian
Are you big fan of FPS?

Sure. As long as it involves using my brain instead of mindlessly shooting things like Black....

Half-Life, Halo, Call of Duty and other current-gen FPS are much more than just shooting people. It involves strategy, coordination and some cases teamwork.

I'm hoping Red Steel involves more than the "whack a mole" concept with the katana and "laser gun" gimmick.

Let's be HONEST: If this game were on the Xbox 360 or the PS3, 99% of you would say it would suck.