Originally posted by Validus
Raw power + formidability. Is someone going to tell me PC Validus isn't herald level (or above) because he has nothing but strength, durability, and mental lightning? Mangog not herald level either? The Destroyer?
I maintain that herald level doesn't exist.
Only top tier and the like.
And Validus and the Destroyer are clearly above the top tier.
Terrax is a herald, but he isn't as powerful as Surfer.
Does that mean Ironman is herald level, since i'd give him odds on Terrax?
Nope.
The Human Torch was a herald, but he wasn't top tier.
Is he still herald level?
Thats the flaw in that thinking.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Didn't create his own pantheon. He came out the sun, and had a pantheon waiting for him.
as far as herald thats not really a big deal, cuz if you go by profiles just about anybody can be a freaking herald cuz first of all firelord, nova, red shift , johnny storm and air walker were all in the same tier.... and all of these at the hieght of thier abilites would still be no match for reg. kal-el.
the destroyer didnt even get any of the PC, and he was a herald... galactus just sicced it on planets..and of course the way for years marvel has been toying with the idea of expanding on the notion via retcon that gladiator was once a herald, and we all se that while a cosmic being he doesnt have the PC either.. so reg superman would be a high level herald.
a dude like thanos is a mid level sky father, especially since he lierally created life in his thanosi through sorcery, cloning, and science...startting with the ones that thought they WERE him to the ones that called him "father" he even once referred to his brood as "godlings" further soldifying the fact that he was more powerful than they were and his thanosi tho made from his stock were individuals with individual personalities and they could actually go off and start families of thier own if they were given the oppporunity, so he could create a pantheon if he felt like it
Originally posted by manjaro
i didnt mean than literally opf course he paased on the legacy to one person and that individual was so inspired he thought to do the same thing and before you know it, a dynasty was created and then the same way you had thousands of ppl in the GL corps thier were a myriad of "supermen: and he did at times amp up thier powrr levels when he saw fit...thats the type of shit gods do when it amuses them😄as far as herald thats not really a big deal, cuz if you go by profiles just about anybody can be a freaking herald cuz first of all firelord, nova, red shift , johnny storm and air walker were all in the same tier.... and all of these at the hieght of thier abilites would still be no match for reg. kal-el.
the destroyer didnt even get any of the PC, and he was a herald... galactus just sicced it on planets..and of course the way for years marvel has been toying with the idea of expanding on the notion via retcon that gladiator was once a herald, and we all se that while a cosmic being he doesnt have the PC either.. so reg superman would be a high level herald.
a dude like thanos is a mid level sky father, especially since he lierally created life in his thanosi through sorcery, cloning, and science...startting with the ones that thought they WERE him to the ones that called him "father" he even once referred to his brood as "godlings" further soldifying the fact that he was more powerful than they were and his thanosi tho made from his stock were individuals with individual personalities and they could actually go off and start families of thier own if they were given the oppporunity, so he could create a pantheon if he felt like it
Wooh that was very interesting .... I think that Gladiator could do with a mini and a specific origin. If it was written by someone decent i think it would literally sell millions, especially with all those Marvelites who secretly wish that Superman was a marvel character.
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Wooh that was very interesting .... I think that Gladiator could do with a mini and a specific origin. If it was written by someone decent i think it would literally sell millions, especially with all those Marvelites who secretly wish that Superman was a marvel character.
DC can keep Superman.
All he'd do in Marvel is bring another unneeded jobber aura and annoy fans.
Originally posted by UniOmni
DC can keep Superman.
All he'd do in Marvel is bring another unneeded jobber aura and annoy fans.
I was refering to some of the generally less intelligent members, who like to spend copius amounts of time bashing Superman, for no real justifiable reason other than him being a D.C. character (who they wish was a Marvle one).
Originally posted by MJOILNIR
I tried reading Supes about 18 years ago. I am for another glad he's not a marvel character. My god the pre crisis stuff was awful.
I've only been reading comics for the 3 years, but i've read some of the Allan Moore Silverage stuff, and i think its pretty cool. And its my mate Whirlys favourite era.
Originally posted by Validus
Most heralds of Galactus don't even have those powers.
Just as I use the term "Skyfather" loosely, I just "Herald" the same way. That's what the whole thread is about, you don't have to be a Skyfather to have that much power and you don't even need to know who Galactus is to have Herald power.
I simply put forth a ton of powers I see fit for an uber-cosmic. Above Herald, below slightly Skyfather.
Originally posted by long pig
Indeed. Maybe my idea of a uber-cosmic is higher than Surfer. Actually, I know it is.Just as I use the term "Skyfather" loosely, I just "Herald" the same way. That's what the whole thread is about, you don't have to be a Skyfather to have that much power and you don't even need to know who Galactus is to have Herald power.
I simply put forth a ton of powers I see fit for an uber-cosmic. Above Herald, below slightly Skyfather.
That means that there are Sky-fathers that are below Herald level. Thats seems a bit inaccurate ?
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
That means that there are Sky-fathers that are below Herald level. Thats seems a bit inaccurate ?
Not so.
What else would you consider Superman and the JLA??
Superman is the skyfather according to some, while the JLA is the pantheon that he is powerful enough to demolish at will.
Yet he is still not as powerful as Surfer, so maybe there are skyfathers that are below herald level.............Surfer herald level that is.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Not so.
What else would you consider Superman and the JLA??Superman is the skyfather according to some, while the JLA is the pantheon that he is powerful enough to demolish at will.
Yet he is still not as powerful as Surfer, so maybe there are skyfathers that are below herald level.............Surfer herald level that is.
Ok, the JLA are not an official patheon of Gods .... 😕
Youre second point is a bit of an oxymoron. Its like saying Theo Walcott has only played for England once, so he doesn't deserve to be given a cap ? A cap by definition means that a player has played for his national team. If you think the name of the powerlevel is flawed, don't confuse people more by enforcing something that doesn't really make sense. Change the name of the powerlevel. Everyone wins, no one is confused.