Originally posted by DarkCrawler
She was more powerful in that dimension. You have mention it in the feats if she is amped.
Man, what a lie! There was nothing whatsoever that indicates this. Show me where on panel where it was stated or just leave the thread and stop lying. You need to start dealing with the fact that Ororo just that darn powerful.
Originally posted by Rutog98
Man, what a lie! There was nothing whatsoever that indicates this. Show me where on panel where it was stated or just leave the thread and stop lying. You need to start dealing with the fact that Ororo just that darn powerful.
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Did you READ the comic? The one previous to that? If you really didn't get that she was amped from that, you are more blind then I thought. ALL the X-Men's powers went wonky in that dimension. Storm got more powerful.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
🤨Did you READ the comic? The one previous to that? If you really didn't get that she was amped from that, you are more blind then I thought. ALL the X-Men's powers went wonky in that dimension. Storm got more powerful.
And you based this on what??
Where was it stated??
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Wow. You really did not read the previous comic? In that dimension, Nightcrawler could summon demons, Xavier could merge with other people, Juggernaut grew to huge skyscraper size...the X-Men's powers were not the same, and Storm was no exception. Her powers were not the same, and you would have noticed it if you had read it... Not saying it's wrong to post the feat but usually it's a good thing to include possible powerups or power changes to avoid confusion. I mean, Storm could manipulate reality and all in that dimension.
And it was stated throughout the entire comic that her powers were changed, here are few examples.
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2262/stormpowers1eh5.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9076/stormpowers2so9.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7604/stormpowers3eb7.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2414/stormpowers4qs3.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8505/stormpowers5sg1.jpg
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
...😑Wow. You really did not read the previous comic? In that dimension, Nightcrawler could summon demons, Xavier could merge with other people, Juggernaut grew to huge skyscraper size...the X-Men's powers were not the same, and Storm was no exception. Her powers were not the same, and you would have noticed it if you had read it... Not saying it's wrong to post the feat but usually it's a good thing to include possible powerups or power changes to avoid confusion. I mean, Storm could manipulate reality and all in that dimension.
And it was stated throughout the entire comic that her powers were changed, here are few examples.
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2262/stormpowers1eh5.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9076/stormpowers2so9.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7604/stormpowers3eb7.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2414/stormpowers4qs3.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8505/stormpowers5sg1.jpg
Thats a GIVEN. Different dimension, different laws.
Again, how does different= amplified??
Storm's powers are still basically the same--She manipulated the laws of nature there.
Also, Storm was STILL able to overpower them even when she had ZERO control of her powers.
THEY were the laws of nature, she simply was STRONGER. Therein lies the feat.
You neglect to emphasis that The Trion, in essence, WERE the governing forces of that dimension. Ororo was simply more powerful than the sum-total of the enitre dimension.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Thats a GIVEN. Different dimension, different laws.Again, how does different= amplified??
Storm's powers are still basically the same--She manipulated the laws of nature there.
Also, Storm was STILL able to overpower them even when she had ZERO control of her powers.
THEY were the laws of nature, she simply was STRONGER. Therein lies the feat.
You neglect to emphasis that The Trion, in essence, WERE the governing forces of that dimension. Ororo was simply more powerful than the sum-total of the enitre dimension.
Err, I don't think you are grasping what "amplified" means. It means that your power is put to another level which differs vastly from 99% of your powers and normal status. When Superman goes to Sun, he is amplified. He is multiple times more powerful in the Sun then he is on the Earth, but he is still amplified. That is not his powerlevel most of the time.
And when Storm goes to another dimension where her powerlevel is raised to the status of a god and reality warper, she is amplified. Her power vastly differs from most of her showings. She is multiple times more stronger then in 99% of her showings.
They both achieve it through natural means, but it is still amplifying. Obviously Superman is stronger in Sun, his source of power, and obviously Storm is stronger in place where the elemental forces are stronger. But that is not the powerlevel they are at VAST majority of their comic book appearences, so it is amplifying.
Are you getting what I mean here?
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Err, I don't think you are grasping what "amplified" means. It means that your power is put to another level which differs vastly from 99% of your powers and normal status. When Superman goes to Sun, he is amplified. He is multiple times more powerful in the Sun then he is on the Earth, but he is still amplified. That is not his powerlevel most of the time.And when Storm goes to another dimension where her powerlevel is raised to the status of a god and reality warper, she is amplified. Her power vastly differs from most of her showings. She is multiple times more stronger then in 99% of her showings.
They both achieve it through natural means, but it is still amplifying. Obviously Superman is stronger in Sun, his source of power, and obviously Storm is stronger in place where the elemental forces are stronger. But that is not the powerlevel they are at VAST majority of their comic book appearences, so it is amplifying.
Are you getting what I mean here?
False analogy.😐
The Sun is not a conscious entity that Supes contest for supremecy, and defeats using it's OWN power.
Storm and the Trion are a different Story.
Insert coin and try again😐
and DC's bringing up a valid point about how you represent the character who is up for "respect." without acknowledging that the dimension she was in significantly altered her powers, the blurb you gave above the feat implies that regular ol' storm beat up the gods of a dimension. but storm's powers were significantly altered, as was confirmed throughout, and you didn't mention that. that could be seen as intentionally misleading.
the feat is no less worthy of respect, but it should be represented fully in context.
Originally posted by Disappear
and DC's bringing up a valid point about how you represent the character who is up for "respect." without acknowledging that the dimension she was in significantly altered her powers, the blurb you gave above the feat implies that regular ol' storm beat up the gods of a dimension. but storm's powers were significantly altered, as was confirmed throughout, and you didn't mention that. that could be seen as intentionally misleading.the feat is no less worthy of respect, but it should be represented fully in context.
What you fail to realize is that the Trion WERE the dimension.
She tapped into them, over-powered them, and healed the dimension.
She in essence faught the dimension(The Trion) and won.
Therein lies the feat.
and she wouldn't have been able to do so if her powers weren't enhanced BY the dimension. therein lies the context.
i actually understand the feat. i've read through the scans, i've seen what happened. you made the point that the trion were the dimension clear. but you didn't make the point that storm wasn't operating at her regular power levels, or even seeming to use her regular powers. without doing that, it seems like a deceptive attempt to garner respect; especially considering she'd get the same amount of respect for beating up a dimension's primary forces even if you DID explain it.
Originally posted by Disappear
and she wouldn't have been able to do so if her powers weren't enhanced BY the dimension. therein lies the context.i actually understand the feat. i've read through the scans, i've seen what happened. you made the point that the trion were the dimension clear. but you didn't make the point that storm wasn't operating at her regular power levels, or even seeming to use her regular powers. without doing that, it seems like a deceptive attempt to garner respect; especially considering she'd get the same amount of respect for beating up a dimension's primary forces even if you DID explain it.
She essentially took the Trion to a higher level and beat them with themselves. She beat the dimension and healed it.
Why keep seperating the dimension from the Trion??
Storm is atmokenetic.
She simply manipulated the forces of nature in that reality, and inturn, was more powerful than the forces of nature in that reality.
The forces of nature were conscious, living beings, not merely inanimate sources of power sperate and apart from the Trion.
To say she was enhanced, means the Trion, whom she was contesting, enhanced her. Why would your enemy ENHANCE you?? It makes no sense.
It makes more sense that she was simply MORE powerful with respect to the power to manipulate the forces of nature in that dimension than The living, conscious forces of nature in said dimension.
that rationale explains only why storm's powers would have been affected by the new dimension, not why every other member was seemingly enhanced and altered at the same time. you're pussyfooting around the fact that storm's powers were enhanced beyond her ability to even comprehend or properly control, as she admitted herself, in some vain attempt to gather glory for the character. it's self-defeating, because by doing so you're projecting an image of shadiness and mistrust around yourself, and the feats you describe are being stained by it.
Originally posted by Disappear
that rationale explains only why storm's powers would have been affected by the new dimension, not why every other member was seemingly enhanced and altered at the same time. you're pussyfooting around the fact that storm's powers were enhanced beyond her ability to even comprehend or properly control, as she admitted herself, in some vain attempt to gather glory for the character. it's self-defeating, because by doing so you're projecting an image of shadiness and mistrust around yourself, and the feats you describe are being stained by it.
Read my post again.
Your logic is she was enhanced by the Gods she was fighting which eventualy enabled her to beat them???
Or, by my logic, she simply was more powerful in Manipulating the natural forces that comprised the Trion.
Either way you look at it, she essentially BEAT them WITH themselves.
You're pussy footing around the FACT that the Trion were the living incarnation of the entire Dimension, and thus the natural forces as well.
Storm beat them with her control over the natural forces that they themselves comprised.
The others may have been enhanced as well, but they didn't use their respective powers to best the sum-total of the entire dimension who fostered their enhancements to begin with. Storm did.
Therin lies the feat.
