Wonderman vs. Colossus

Started by Batroc9 pages

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I haven't seen it being stated that the Thing lifting 85 tons as his limit but I do recall it being stated that the Thing was lifting 85 tons however that doesn't mean anything . Even back when Marvel claimed the Thing could lift 5 tons (The Skrulls even referenced that according to their scans the Thing lifted that much.) he was doing shit way beyond that class.

I haven't read enough of Samson to try and dispute that. I haven't seen the She-Hulk thing. At least I don't remember.

I read on another board about an FF comic where The Thing is wielding a couple of giant swords weighing 100 tons each. Has anyone else heard of this? There was no scan or issue number, just a description.

Originally posted by Batroc
I read on another board about an FF comic where The Thing is wielding a couple of giant swords weighing 100 tons each. Has anyone else heard of this? There was no scan or issue number, just a description.

Are you referring to the time the material used to create giant futuristic Skyscrapers was melted down and compressed into hyper dense swords that the Thing wielded? Yea that was definitely a very impressive feat.

For other impressive feats there's also the time the Thing supported a building that looked like the Louvre (Which is around 200 tons I believe.), supported an entire oil rig, was called an equal to Ultron, knocked around a living embodiment of a black hole etc.

colossus lifts 100 tons
ultimate colossus lifts well beyond that

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Are you referring to the time the material used to create giant futuristic Skyscrapers was melted down and compressed into hyper dense swords that the Thing wielded? Yea that was definitely a very impressive feat.

For other impressive feats there's also the time the Thing supported a building that looked like the Louvre (Which is around 200 tons I believe.), supported an entire oil rig, was called an equal to Ultron, knocked around a living embodiment of a black hole etc.

Thanks, that must be the one! Any idea which issue the sword feat is from, or roughly what era of the FF comic it's from? I'd like to read that one.

There's a good recent Thing battle in Black Panther issue 12. He's holding his own against an upgraded adamantium Absorbing Man. In fact he's enjoying the fight : "I've been aching for a brawl like this".

I've heard the tales of this alleged sword feat for years. But I have never seen it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Are you referring to the time the material used to create giant futuristic Skyscrapers was melted down and compressed into hyper dense swords that the Thing wielded? Yea that was definitely a very impressive feat.

For other impressive feats there's also the time the Thing supported a building that looked like the Louvre (Which is around 200 tons I believe.), supported an entire oil rig, was called an equal to Ultron, knocked around a living embodiment of a black hole etc.

so both of these guys lift above 100tons

WM

much stronger

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
so both of these guys lift above 100tons
Yes. I mean, Thing was explicitly referred to as being Class 100 on-panel in an issue of Avengers: The Initiative ironically.

Not sure that's the point the writer was trying to get acrossed.

^ Thing teaching a class on how to deal with Class-100 threats isn't meant to communicate that Thing is a Class-100 character?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Thing teaching a class on how to deal with Class-100 threats isn't meant to communicate that Thing is a Class-100 character?
there are women who teach how to defend against 300lb male criminal aggressors. 😐

^ And if the woman was acting as the 300lb male criminal aggressor, then she'd have to be approximately 300 lbs. As it stands, those women teachers actively demonstrating how they can deal with such foes.

In Thing's class, he was acting as the Class-100 threat as everyone is attacking him. Thing wasn't demonstrating how he deals with Class-100's.

Not many people know how to handle Class 100 threats better than Grimm. He's cut out for the job.

^ So he demonstrates how he would deal with class 100's by having all his class 2 (and lower) students attack him? I really don't think that's what was intended.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ So he demonstrates how he would deal with class 100's by having all his class 2 (and lower) students attack him? I really don't think that's what was intended.
I need to see the scan again. Are you implying that Grimm is Class 100?

^ I'm stating that's what the scan clearly and in no uncertain terms depicts.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ So he demonstrates how he would deal with class 100's by having all his class 2 (and lower) students attack him? I really don't think that's what was intended.
what do you define as cl100?

Blade's mentor Jamal Afari tought him how to deal with vampires....and he was a human.

WM easy.

The handbook classes aren't something anyone actually takes seriously anymore.