Originally posted by kgkg
no he is not................. MXy gets defeated easily......... also his powers only work in some dimentions............they have no power over higher dimentions.Pre REc Beyonder was God.
This is totally wrong. Mxy has gone up and down the dimensional ladder and his powers have worked in every single one. Please dont' claim stuff you dont' know about. And mxy has never been defeated by force. The Spectre had to de power him. in worlds' funnest, mxy bopped the spectre over his head with earth one and then wiped out all of the multiverse. So um no. Mxy beats classic beyonder. the anti monitor would just make it that much faster.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlkids don't know much these days
This is totally wrong. Mxy has gone up and down the dimensional ladder and his powers have worked in every single one. Please dont' claim stuff you dont' know about. And mxy has never been defeated by force. The Spectre had to de power him. in worlds' funnest, mxy bopped the spectre over his head with earth one and then wiped out all of the multiverse. So um no. Mxy beats classic beyonder. the anti monitor would just make it that much faster.
Originally posted by kgkg
kids don't know much these days
I know that the beyonder on panel has never destroyed anything universal except death. Mxy destroyed every thing, every dimension and every universe and else worlds ever. and then put it all back as if nothing happened. So um yeah, when the beyonder does that, that he can beat mxy. Until then, he's not on mxy's lvl. and the writer's saying the beyonder was them on page AFTER the fact means nothing to me. he's not on panel as the writer. If we argued stuff off of what was said on here instead of on panel or being said by other characters, we wouldn't even need bother with panel showings.
Originally posted by kgkg
kids don't know much these days
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in point of fact, ULTIMATOR of the 10th dimension devoured the 9th through 6th dimensions and was gonna get the 5th as well until he met myx. despite the fact that ultimator was more powerful than myx, myx still beat him through trickery in myx's one shot a few years back. myx took him through some fake comicbook worlds and got him to say his name backwards or something silly.
it's hard to tell if any of that is canon, (it was such a silly book) but references to higher dimensions have been made many times in dc, so i see no reason (or indications) to suggest otherwise.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlagain shows you didn't read...........
I know that the beyonder on panel has never destroyed anything universal except death. Mxy destroyed every thing, every dimension and every universe and else worlds ever. and then put it all back as if nothing happened. So um yeah, when the beyonder does that, that he can beat mxy. Until then, he's not on mxy's lvl. and the writer's saying the beyonder was them on page AFTER the fact means nothing to me. he's not on panel as the writer. If we argued stuff off of what was said on here instead of on panel or being said by other characters, we wouldn't even need bother with panel showings.
'Universal except death'............... hmmmmmmm in the book i read it said no one in the XXmultiverseXXX could die since death was killed 🙄
universal......
infact beyonder had energies to created multiverse and all the multiversal forces in MU at that time couldn't match his powers.
Originally posted by leonidas😄 yep imps are joke characters.
😆in point of fact, ULTIMATOR of the 10th dimension devoured the 9th through 6th dimensions and was gonna get the 5th as well until he met myx. despite the fact that ultimator was more powerful than myx, myx still beat him through trickery in myx's one shot a few years back. myx took him through some fake comicbook worlds and got him to say his name backwards or something silly.
it's hard to tell if any of that is canon, (it was such a silly book) but references to higher dimensions have been made many times in dc, so i see no reason (or indications) to suggest otherwise.
Originally posted by kgkg
again shows you didn't read...........'Universal except death'............... hmmmmmmm in the book i read it said no one in the XXmultiverseXXX could die since death was killed 🙄
universal......
infact beyonder had energies to created multiverse and all the multiversal forces in MU at that time couldn't match his powers.
Ok so what does that have to do with mxy's? powers? NOthing. The marvel abstracts are a joke to mxy. They mean nothing. They are actually just metaphysical representations of the forces of the universe. these things mean nothing to mxy as he can bend every thing to his whim. so the beyonder punking the marvel abstracts does not impress mxy. Mxy wouldn't even bother punking the abstracts. he would just do what he wants to do for fun and then put it all back. The abstracts wouldn't even know he played with them if he didnt' want them to. Like I said, show me on PANEL the beyonder destroying the entire multiverse and then putting all back together again, and then he's in mxy's league, until then, it's all superlative fanboy marvelism.
Originally posted by kgkg
😄 yep imps are joke characters.
ANd the beyonder wasn't the biggest joke ever? he was tricked into thinking he was something he wasn't, he was never shown to be as powerful as his fanboys pretend, and now he's a cube. he's the joke. At least mxy is true to his character and hasn't been changed. And the beyonder still wasn't all that powerful if he was a writer. He got retconned. Someone made a descision over the writer's head, and destroyed his character. The beyonder was never on mxy's lvl.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
ANd the beyonder wasn't the biggest joke ever? he was tricked into thinking he was something he wasn't, he was never shown to be as powerful as his fanboys pretend, and now he's a cube. he's the joke. At least mxy is true to his character and hasn't been changed. And the beyonder still wasn't all that powerful if he was a writer. He got retconned. Someone made a descision over the writer's head, and destroyed his character. The beyonder was never on mxy's lvl.
First day: Beyonder is officialy the most powerful fictional character.
Second day: His powers are being questioned, he is consider equal to Thanos with the Heart
Third day: Now Beyonder is no longer God, Thanos with the Heart is more powerful than him, is Beyonder at least as strong as the full power Spectre?
Fourth day: Beyonder's definitely weaker than Spectre, can he stand up against Anti Monitor and Mxyztlp?
Alternate future day: Now, Beyonder was owned by Spider-man, can he stand his ground against Captain America?
You see where this is going...
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The writers left his side = retconned...First day: Beyonder is officialy the most powerful fictional character.
Second day: His powers are being questioned, he is consider equal to Thanos with the Heart
Third day: Now Beyonder is no longer God, Thanos with the Heart is more powerful than him, is Beyonder at least as strong as the full power Spectre?
Fourth day: Beyonder's definitely weaker than Spectre, can he stand up against Anti Monitor and Mxyztlp?
Alternate future day: Now, Beyonder was owned by Spider-man, can he stand his ground against Captain America?
You see where this is going...
I dont' see where it is going. Becuz I'm a DC reader, I love marvel to, but I actually read dc, and over in DC, the beyonder wasn't shown to be the most powerful fictional charcter. I do not recognize his power outside of the MU. And I most def dont see anything on panel that he did to suggest that he is as powerful as mxy. I'm saying I want to. But I haven't seen it yet. show me the error of my ways.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont' see where it is going. Becuz I'm a DC reader, I love marvel to, but I actually read dc, and over in DC, the beyonder wasn't shown to be the most powerful fictional charcter. I do not recognize his power outside of the MU. And I most def dont see anything on panel that he did to suggest that he is as powerful as mxy. I'm saying I want to. But I haven't seen it yet. show me the error of my ways.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Beyonder was more powerful than everything in the Marvel Multiverse millions of times combinded. So Beyonder was the most powerful being at that time... If there was any other being there, well than it would just be an addition to the *combinded.
Combined from marvel? obviously he wasn't more powerful than the DC universe. They didnt' have the power to make that statement. SO um no. Just no. ALl this jibber jabber as to what was stated ain't showing me nothing on panel.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Combined from marvel? obviously he wasn't more powerful than the DC universe. They didnt' have the power to make that statement. SO um no. Just no. ALl this jibber jabber as to what was stated ain't showing me nothing on panel.
Besides are you forgetting: Beyonder was not only all there in Marvel, but also all that was beyond it...
So if TOAA was somewhere beyond Marvel, it would be a part of classic Beyonder.
And even if they said this, they can't be sued because the charater is retconned.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So your saying that
DC >> Marvel? -- In terms of power?
They are equal. Nothing that is created on one side, can really outdo something from the other side. And neither company has the power or the authority to create something that would encompass the power of the other. PERIOD.
So if Beyonder = millions (prular) times more powerful than Marvel (by statement).
Let's call marvel's power X.
That would make DC's power X as well.
Beyonder was Millions times all power in Marvel, and he wasent really a part of it.
So Beyonder: >2,000,000X (It have to be at least 2 millions to be "millions"
And DC combinded with Marvel: 2X
in other words: Beyonder was at least one million times the power of DC combinded with Marvel.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Actually if you think about it, yes at the time. I mean, didn't the first Secret Wars happen BEFORE Crisis? That means that in DC you had ridiculously powered being running around all over the place.