Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Yeah, but their power was still bellow the Living Tribunal...
I mean: Pre-crisis Darkseid was considered as slightly bellow Galactus.
To have 2 infinity's is more than haveing one infinity and trillions of Pre-crisis Superman's
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And mxy has never been defeated by force. The Spectre had to de power him. in worlds' funnest, mxy bopped the spectre over his head with earth one and then wiped out all of the multiverse. So um no. Mxy beats classic beyonder. the anti monitor would just make it that much faster.
No one's ever defeated Beyonder either.
AM would be wiped out in a blink.
Mxy is the only trouble, but would loose just aswell....imo
Mxy did away with ONE Multi-verse.
He'll have to be able to do that Millions of times over in one instant to match Beyonder's power.
He erased the Multi-verse, and booped Spectre in the head, so he's second to the Presence?
Wait, now if the Beyonder was stated by Marvel as being more powerful than a million mutiverse's combined, isn't that comparable to info that comes out of a handbook? Unless it was stated on panel that he was more powerful than everything IN MARVEL, that doesn't seem to have a lot of creditability here by forum rules. I'm really not trying to pick a fight or anything, I'm just trying to get an idea of the rules of engagement.
Also, since when is Marvel just one multiverse? I was always under the impression that it was AT LEAST a megaverse.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait, now if the Beyonder was stated by Marvel as being more powerful than a million mutiverse's combined, isn't that comparable to info that comes out of a handbook? Unless it was stated on panel that he was more powerful than everything IN MARVEL, that doesn't seem to have a lot of creditability here by forum rules.
Beyonder is Millions of Times More Powerful than ALL the Rest of the Multiverse Combined.
Not only on panel, but actually showing the Energy flow of that magnitude of power.
I follow forum rules.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I know that the beyonder on panel has never destroyed anything universal except death.
If your going to argue against the Beyonder, atleast study the character first.
Beyonder has the Living Universe begging him to not kill Multi-Death
Death is ERASED across The Entire MULTI-VERSE
Beyonder recreates the MULTI-VERSAL Concept of Death through an individual.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
SHow me on panel, the beyonder wiping all of existance out and the entire marvel multiverse, and then he'll be as powerful as mxy.
Beyonder through his entire history, by his very nature has IMPOSED limitations on himself.
AND still, was capable of this.
Beyonder gives the ENTIRE Multi-verse 24 hours before he will erase it.
Isn't that cool to be able to say I give existence 24 hours...and mean it.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Beyonder is Millions of Times More Powerful than ALL the Rest of the Multiverse Combined.Not only on panel, but actually showing the Energy flow of that magnitude of power.
I follow forum rules.
That's cool Mr. M. I never noticed that particular passage and I stand corrected. However you still haven't answered my question regarding the size of Marvel. If Marvel has mentioned other multiverse's, then aren't they still considered part of Marvel. Not only the multiverse's themselves, but the beings that come frome them? If they're copyrighted by Marvel than they're a part of Marvel, which means that Marvel is bigger than just one multiverse, it's at least an megaverse.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So um yeah, when the beyonder does that, that he can beat mxy. Until then, he's not on mxy's lvl.
Show me Mxy negating or erasing from existence the Astral Form of 30,000 Civilizations.
Where not even Death itself can enjoy their souls since they NEVER existed.
Beyonder erases from existence (from ever being) a space armada that comprised of over 30,000 advanced civilizations.
Death and Mephisto will never savor those billions of souls...because due to the Beyonder they never even existed.
Originally posted by darthgoober
That's cool Mr. M. I never noticed that particular passage and I stand corrected. However you still haven't answered my question regarding the size of Marvel. If Marvel has mentioned other multiverse's, then aren't they still considered part of Marvel. Not only the multiverse's themselves, but the beings that come frome them? If they're copyrighted by Marvel than they're a part of Marvel, which means that Marvel is bigger than just one multiverse, it's at least an megaverse.
Originally posted by darthgoober
That's cool Mr. M. I never noticed that particular passage and I stand corrected. However you still haven't answered my question regarding the size of Marvel. If Marvel has mentioned other multiverse's, then aren't they still considered part of Marvel. Not only the multiverse's themselves, but the beings that come frome them? If they're copyrighted by Marvel than they're a part of Marvel, which means that Marvel is bigger than just one multiverse, it's at least an megaverse.
Before November 1986,
there was ONLY ONE Multi-verse, and the Beyond Realm, which was outside the Multi-verse.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Megaverse is an other name for the entire Mutliverse...
A Multi-verse is at least 2 universes... But it can end up into infinity.
Beyonder: Millions of times the [B]rest of the Multiverse combinded.
That mean all Marvel Multiverses, in other words the Megaverse. [/B]
Wait you just said "rest of" that means that mainstream Marvel isn't necessarily part of that equation.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Now jsut because it wasn't mentioned, doesn't mean that it didn't exist. By that logic, TOAA hasn't been in existence all that long.
Nah dude,
This isn't real life, where because we didn't know of America, doesn't mean it wasn't always there.
In the real world that analogy works, but in comics no.
There was NO other Universe invented/created before November 1986.
Besides the ONE and Only Multi-verse and the Beyond Realm, which was ALL there was outside the Multi-verse between May 84' and Nov 86'
Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah dude,This isn't real life, where because we didn't know of America, doesn't mean it wasn't always there.
In the real world that analogy works, but in comics no.
There was NO other Universe invented/created before November 1986.
Besides the ONE and Only Multi-verse and the Beyond Realm, which was ALL there was outside the Multi-verse between May 84' and Nov 86'
Wait, so there were NO other universe/mutiverse's before 1986? What about DC? Now I'm only asking to clarify, because most people lump Marvel and DC into the same omniverse(I personally don't, I see each company as existing in their own omniverse COMPLETELY separate from one another).
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlSo you call every marvel fan, a Marvel zombie? When you just said that all of the abstracts are a joke to myx?
Ok so what does that have to do with mxy's? powers? NOthing. The marvel abstracts are a joke to mxy. They mean nothing. They are actually just metaphysical representations of the forces of the universe. these things mean nothing to mxy as he can bend every thing to his whim. so the beyonder punking the marvel abstracts does not impress mxy. Mxy wouldn't even bother punking the abstracts. he would just do what he wants to do for fun and then put it all back. The abstracts wouldn't even know he played with them if he didnt' want them to. Like I said, show me on PANEL the beyonder destroying the entire multiverse and then putting all back together again, and then he's in mxy's league, until then, it's all superlative fanboy marvelism.
Originally posted by bigbran
So you call every marvel fan, a Marvel zombie? When you just said that all of the abstracts are a joke to myx?
Can tell your not a DC fan. In another thread, you said Myx is not on a LT level, or a spectre level. I hae no idea what you are trying to get at.
Your opinion has become Biased now.
Basically, i'm saying, to say that the beyonder is more powerful than the DC megaverse is not so. The beyonder doesn't have that type of power. Especially if he is just the writer. The writer can't write anything over at DC as he does not have ANY authority at all. So if the beyonder is the writer, he instantly looses all power in the dc universe. Nothing else needs to be said.
