Making deals with the devil...

Good, decent, noble things Liz has done:
1. Save Will when he was a child and hide the medallion to keep him out of pirate trouble.
2. Bargained with Barbosa to leave Port Royal, not to just let her go which would have been the more selfish thing.
3. Takes it upon herself to participate in fighting, etc, and as soon as Jack asks where Will is, she goes to find him.
4. Is the only one to go back for Will
5. Sacrifices herself in marriage to save Will
6. Stands with Will between Norrington and Jack
7. Takes the letters of mark to help Jack and Will
8. Takes the terrible risk of becoming a fugitive just to find Will
9. Takes Norrington under her wing to give him a purpose
10. Persuades Jack to do the right thing.
11. Chains Jack to save the others
12. Is among those who volunteer to risk their lives to find Jack
13. PS: argued for Jack to be released after he saved her.

Pretty bad things she does
1. Doesn't tell anyone right off the bat the compass "doesn't work" for her. This could have gotten them in a lot of trouble.
2. Toys with Norrington
3. Is sometimes patronizing with her father.
4. Doesn't keep the chest safe which screws everyone
5. Chains Jack to the mast because she is afraid of her own feelings
6. Cheats on Will

i cant wait to see Will do something really bad. its his turn to go over the edge.
I say he should try to kill Jack, or swordfight Lizzie, or sell someone, or sleep with Tia, or... the possibilities are endless!

well Will will prob do something aweful or ABOUT to do something aweful like try to kill jack what kate say-and yea the possibilities are endless! I think his dad is gonna be there to help him though-yea im pretty sure. I would like to see Will angry at some point u know like getting out of his systme cus i wouldnt blame him..poor thing 🙁
but hopefully at the end Will will also learn something..

LOL liz refuses to BE the heart for any of the men..at this point she is pissed off with all the men in her life fighting over it/her..so the chest gets removed from the three men..Liz runs off...

Runs into danger..she needs to protect the chest on her own/needs to protect herself from the baddies she helps out Pintel and ragetti by throwing them the sword..

Later on, on the Pearl Liz is left with no men to protect her she has to fend for herself..she's trying to help Will and at the same time save herself..she thinks she's saving Jack too by this point..

The chest gets taken by shell head and JACK is the one who saves it from shell head..he saved the heart and wins it fair and square...

Liz is in ultimate peril with the kraken..Will is caught up somewhere and JACK is the one who saves her...he wins her heart over..

Actually no..

Pintel and Ragetti are the ones she runs into who help her when she is fighting to save the chest on her own..the other 3 men are absent

Pintell and Ragetti are ALSO the ones who help Liz when she is trying to kill the kraken on her own(gets dragged by the giant squid)..the other 3 men aren't there to help her..

when she needs help the most..and is in dire need..WILL/Norrington aren't THERE to save her..JACK IS! and HE wins Liz over...

When the baddie grabs the chest JACK is the one who saves it! the other 2 are busy somewhere else Will is concerned about saving his dad whilst norrington is concerned about saving face..so THEY are not worthy Liz/chest.. Jack wins the heart FAIR AND SQUARE..he puts it close to his own heart to protect it.

What happens next with Norrington/Will/Jar of dirt is a hint of what is going to happen in movie 3 with Liz

He knocks will out when he tries to get to the heart - this means he believes he has won Liz

Jack realises he has won her once she chains him up..He thinks Wll has no chance...thats why he's smiling.

---------------- Movie 3 ----------------- "the released first pages of the script"

Jack foolishly puts the heart into the Jar of dirt - Jack foolishly hands Liz over to Sao Feng thinking that she will be safe for one night and come back the next day.

Norrington KIDNAPS the heart and puts it in the hands of the EITC (in a sack) - Norrington working for the EITC comes and attacks Sao Fengs's ship..and Liz gets taken by him..and the EITC

Jack realises that the heart is NOT in the jar once it smashes..he is TERRIFIED "where is the thump thump"..he wants it BACK! - he's probably going to go and save her..

Davy Gets the chest but inside it there is no heart - We are tricked into thinking that Liz Davy's Calypso when its probably Tia

OR this is a hint that Will is going to start mirroring Davy..he realises he has lost Liz's heart to "JACK SPARROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

this is probably why Disney released the first few pages of the draft script because there's already clear hints in movie 2 as to what is going to happen to Liz early on in movie 3...and they have mentioned that Will is mirroring Davy.

Where can you see the script?

im gonna have to search for the script of the third movie..but i think they havent even finished the script.

I have a theory...
What if for some reason Will wants to stab Jack and win Liz but just when he's about to stab him, she gets in the way and he stabs her instead. So then he gets all sad and kind of rips his heart out or something...

It might not make sense but I kind of combined lots of people's theories for this one...

actually that makes a lot of sense...if he kills her i would think that eould be the only possible explanation! good thinking! 😄

yeah

Originally posted by Bwa Ha Ha
I have a theory...
What if for some reason Will wants to stab Jack and win Liz but just when he's about to stab him, she gets in the way and he stabs her instead. So then he gets all sad and kind of rips his heart out or something...

It might not make sense but I kind of combined lots of people's theories for this one...

i like this theory a ton. it would be very disney... sort of hercules, to do that.

if i were Will, I would probably want to kill Jack. Jack has ruined his life from day one... lol... while also making it much better and more exciting, but will doesnt appreciate that.

i mean, technically, will totally saved jack's life at the end of 1, so jack owed him MAJORLY... he should have given Will the compass without asking him to help him find the key. it would be the decent thing to do.
but of course, Jack is a bit more tricksy than that. 😉

Anyways, then Jack gets Will tied up with Davy Jones, they all sword-fight and Will is encouraging Norrington to kill Jack ("be my guest"😉 instead of trying to save Jack, and THEN on top of everything Jack kisses his lady--- and with no explanation from either of them, Will is probably blowing that WAY out of proportion in his head-- he's probably thinking Jack and Liz have been fooling around on the ship for a while, ya know?

So yeah, I would imagine Will would want to kill Jack once they get the pearl back.

I can also imagine Liz isn't about to let that happen, whether she intends on pursuing Jack or not. She's seen him die once and the money's on her Never letting that happen again.

Plus that would just be super dramatic... Liz jumps in front of Jack and takes the bullet or the stab or whatever...

then tia would have to get involved, cause the leading lady can't die. 🙂

Originally posted by katelovespirate

then tia would have to get involved, cause the leading lady can't die. 🙂

Exactly.....and if the script for the POTC 3 trailor that is on the 2nd movie DVD is real.....then Will gets mad at Liz for some reason...and I think we all have a good idea of what that reason is. 😄

that POTC 3 script for the trailor was INTENSE lol... but do they really script out their trailors before they even finish filming the movie???? i doubt it...

where did the script for that trailor go? i found another one i think is fake, but i wanted to see if it matched up with that one at all...

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-415292-possible-transcript-for-the-potc3-trailer.html

^^ thats the link for it

That is slightly different from what Kate posted. I like the one she found better and hope they stick with that. The other one just seems to drawn out.

yeah, ditto

yeah me too, but she was looking for the that one

HUZZAH! People actually like my theory!!!jawdropjumpsurpriseJumpy