New fantastic 4 vs Original fantastic 4

Some think its not even a contest and that the new fantastic 4 would win but I dont think its that easy

I'm not saying new win no contest, I was saying that is the scenario they could win by. At least.. if you were referring to me.

In any case, I think New wins it 6/10

I think the new Fantastic four woud win.I dont know who is this Ghost rider But i do know about spidey wolverine and hulk.in one issue spidey beat all four of the fantastic four.Well i wasent a realy serious battle but still.the Hulk can coute eaisly beat the Thing.Wolverines is strong too and even if Reed cant be cut he can be hurted and Wolverine coud easly do that

Originally posted by Jack of Blades
I think the new Fantastic four woud win.I dont know who is this Ghost rider But i do know about spidey wolverine and hulk.in one issue spidey beat all four of the fantastic four.Well i wasent a realy serious battle but still.the Hulk can coute eaisly beat the Thing.Wolverines is strong too and even if Reed cant be cut he can be hurted and Wolverine coud easly do that

1. This is not the same Hulk that went one on one with FF with ease. This one is strong enough to fight, but is much weaker than Savage.

2. Ghost Rider is hell bound hero that was made by Mephisto. He is virtually Marvel's Spawn. His movie's coming out next year.

Originally posted by rotiart
HT vs Spidey. Likely spidey will lose.

But reed vs. hulk. that scenario has never been used in 40 years of comics by reed.

wolverine doesn't have to stab ben in the heart, he'll keep slicing away pieces of ben, you you whittle down wood. Ben seem pretty freaking pained when he caught in the face from wolverine. 😆

Sue as malice could do some damage to GR. but not as IW. GR. just has to get off a penace stare, and sue would go down.

First off, Torch kills Spidey, no contest.

Second, Ben KO's Wolverine with a thunderclap and then persists to beat him into a coma if not kill him.

Third, Malice was a 90's plot device that was as far as I know of retconed when Reed used the Ult. Nulifier

Last, Reed can most definitly kill Hulk using just his powers. Just because he hasnt done it dosent mean he cant

Yes
Maybe
You don't even know.
No.

😛

Originally posted by rotiart

Invisible woman could contain the ff4, but that would require her maintaining a shield, and she isn't the type that crushes living opponents. even if she were to try to suffocate them, hulk, wolverine and gr would not be affected due to 1 healing factors/ immunity.

HT going nova. wolverine and hulk have come back skeletons. Hulk from ash. Little has been some that could hurt GR.

First off, HT goes Nova and Wolverine and Spidey are dead. N'uff Said.

Prof. Hulk or G. Hulk wont die, however will be severly injured and will take a while to heal back up. During this time Ben goes and takes out whichever version of Hulk.

While Ben is taking out Hulk, the rest of the team takes down GR. 😐

Originally posted by rotiart
Yes
Maybe
You don't even know.
No.

😛

Ha you know im right with the first 2.

Malice was a crappy idea by Marvel to make a more "extreme" FF. Thus it is best to ignore it. Heck what does have to do with this fight anyway 🤨 😕

Last, Reed's abilites are Severly underestimated.

A Thunderclap can take reed out.

If Torch just goes 'nova' wouldnt that kill some more people than just Spidey? Can he localize it? Or would Sue have to stop what she is doing and protect the F4?

Originally posted by Brian Oswald
If Torch just goes 'nova' wouldnt that kill some more people than just Spidey? Can he localize it? Or would Sue have to stop what she is doing and protect the F4?

Sue puts the rest of the FF in a bubble along with Johnny in a seperate bubble to protect him from harm while he charges up his nova.

Then lets he go as soon as he goes Nova ✅

In fact, a Thunderclap can take them all out within the first second of the fight. Except Ben, ofcourse.

a thunder clap would not take wolverine out

Originally posted by capt it up
a thunder clap would not take wolverine out

Originally posted by Grimm22
First off, Torch kills Spidey, no contest.

Second, Ben KO's Wolverine with a thunderclap and then persists to beat him into a coma if not kill him.

Third, Malice was a 90's plot device that was as far as I know of retconed when Reed used the Ult. Nulifier

Last, Reed can most definitly kill Hulk using just his powers. Just because he hasnt done it dosent mean he cant

Yes.
Probably not.
Unknown.
No.
Wolverine has taken thunder claps before(when he was well written), from the Hulk. He wasnt unfazed, but he wasnt koed either.
Their is no evidence to support that Reed can kill the Hulk with his standard power set. He is more likely to hurt himself, or get himself stuck in the Hulks body than do any damage.

Originally posted by Tassadar
Yes.
Probably not.
Unknown.
No.
Wolverine has taken thunder claps before(when he was well written), from the Hulk. He wasnt unfazed, but he wasnt koed either.
Their is no evidence to support that Reed can kill the Hulk with his standard power set. He is more likely to hurt himself, or get himself stuck in the Hulks body than do any damage.

a fight with hulk to the death Reed would surely fall.

Originally posted by capt it up
a thunder clap would not take wolverine out

Maybe not, but it surely knock the FF out. Except for Ben.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Maybe not, but it surely knock the FF out. Except for Ben.

close enough and stong enough thunder clap frome hulk some serious damage his own teamates better watch out

Originally posted by python99
close enough and stong enough thunder clap frome hulk some serious damage his own teamates better watch out

Well, let's give them earplugs 😄

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Well, let's give them earplugs 😄

seriously or he will be fighting alone.