Grimm i agree that Torch would take out Spiderman, Yes Thing does best Wolverine 9/10, and Ill give you that IW does stand a chance against GR, though i do not know for how long, but Reed is not ever ever beating Hulk with just his powers and know prep/ plot device. The only thing he can do is come up with some way to tranquilize the Hulk to revert back to Bruce Banner.
the thing would fight with hulk, just to keep him away from the others. meanwhile, human torch is toasting spiderman, who cant do something to him. wolverine is slashing mr. fantastic to nothing. and sue cant do much to ghost rider😄 so now, mr. fantastic and invisible woman is dead, also is spiderman. 2 vs three. human torch would heat up the area and make it burn, which doesnt hurt thing very much. then, even wolverine with his healing factor would die from that heat, an hulk would SLOWLY take damage cause of his healing. ghost rider wouldnt take damage, and attack human torch, which would fly up and avoid, while thing smashes ghost rider. then its two vs hulk. the flames and punches from thing would in the end be too much... and the original wins.
thats how i think it would go
Originally posted by The-Judge
the thing would fight with hulk, just to keep him away from the others. meanwhile, human torch is toasting spiderman, who cant do something to him. wolverine is slashing mr. fantastic to nothing. and sue cant do much to ghost rider😄 so now, mr. fantastic and invisible woman is dead, also is spiderman. 2 vs three. human torch would heat up the area and make it burn, which doesnt hurt thing very much. then, even wolverine with his healing factor would die from that heat, an hulk would SLOWLY take damage cause of his healing. ghost rider wouldnt take damage, and attack human torch, which would fly up and avoid, while thing smashes ghost rider. then its two vs hulk. the flames and punches from thing would in the end be too much... and the original wins.thats how i think it would go
Mr. Fantastic is indestructible 😐
He cannot be beaten with punches or whatnot.
There is nothing Wolverine can do to hurt him
Originally posted by rotiart
Wolverine, who recently cut off the silver samurais arm.. and downed War Hulk?
When? I thought Hulk was only War for, what? 2 issues? Long enough to fight Juggernaut.
Maybe you're talking about when Wolverine was a Horseman?
Originally posted by Tassadar
Agreed on all except the last one. Sue can do nothing to GR, while GR could butcher Sue, assuming he wanted to.
Sure she can. Trap him in a bubble and throw him into his team mates.
Though first she can let Torch incinerate Wolverine and Spidey with a Nova Blast, and then make a bone tight forcefield around Wolverine's skeleton for 30 seconds. I'm sure if he can't heal immediately then death prolly becomes permanent.
I think Professor is far stronger than Ben. I've never seen anything to suggest otherwise. At least Professor can hold his own against Juggernaut.
Reed may be able to contain GR in the meantime and avoid his gaze at the same time.
Then Sue tosses GR from the field of battle.
And then she and Reed join Thing in trying to stop Hulk. Bubble around his head until he suffocates perhaps?
Ah, the value of extensive teamwork!
Are either team fighting to the death?
Originally posted by lft4ded
When? I thought Hulk was only War for, what? 2 issues? Long enough to fight Juggernaut.Maybe you're talking about when Wolverine was a Horseman?
Sure she can. Trap him in a bubble and throw him into his team mates.
Though first she can let Torch incinerate Wolverine and Spidey with a Nova Blast, and then make a bone tight forcefield around Wolverine's skeleton for 30 seconds. I'm sure if he can't heal immediately then death prolly becomes permanent.
I think Professor is far stronger than Ben. I've never seen anything to suggest otherwise. At least Professor can hold his own against Juggernaut.
Reed may be able to contain GR in the meantime and avoid his gaze at the same time.
Then Sue tosses GR from the field of battle.
And then she and Reed join Thing in trying to stop Hulk. Bubble around his head until he suffocates perhaps?
Ah, the value of extensive teamwork!
Are either team fighting to the death?
Wolverine is in no way in hell healing from a full Nova Blast 😐
Heck I wouldnt be suprised if his bones melted.
Originally posted by python99
yeah wolverine should be vaporized from a nova blast but who know now a days
Yep ✅
Not even Adamantium could withstand nova which is nearly as hot as the freakin sun.
Of course the freakin FF movie had to keep saying "Its going to destory the atmosphere" 🙄
Its a comic book dumbasses! 😠
Reed has never been shown to take down the bruiser hulk. ever. so where you keep thinking reed does it on his own ... astounds me.
human torch does not always go nova... he does it in matters of desperation.. in his fight against spidey.. he'll through out fireballs.. which spidey will dodge.. and lead ht from the remainder of the 3 on 3.
ghostriders penace stare will make fast work of invisilbe woman.. whereas iw has no real options against gr.
thing has been hurt by wolverine before... and he didn't even tag wolverine then. current wolverine has an even better healing factor than before.. meaning thing is gonna get hurt.
again, stretch has been shown that if he stretches too fast, expands too fast... does too much.. yhou'll find his limp ass body on the floor. hulk is obviously the one to do that to reed.
and mind you that reed spent time as reed/doom... gr's penance stare might have some effort taking down reed too... reminding him of the totalitarian he is.
win goes to new ff4
Originally posted by rotiart
Reed has never been shown to take down the bruiser hulk. ever. so where you keep thinking reed does it on his own ... astounds me.human torch does not always go nova... he does it in matters of desperation.. in his fight against spidey.. he'll through out fireballs.. which spidey will dodge.. and lead ht from the remainder of the 3 on 3.
ghostriders penace stare will make fast work of invisilbe woman.. whereas iw has no real options against gr.
thing has been hurt by wolverine before... and he didn't even tag wolverine then. current wolverine has an even better healing factor than before.. meaning thing is gonna get hurt.
again, stretch has been shown that if he stretches too fast, expands too fast... does too much.. yhou'll find his limp ass body on the floor. hulk is obviously the one to do that to reed.
and mind you that reed spent time as reed/doom... gr's penance stare might have some effort taking down reed too... reminding him of the totalitarian he is.
win goes to new ff4
Sure if you ignore 99% of the things the FF have done then I guess that might work 🙄
I still think this is too close too call because Original ff4 have done some extraordinary thing but the new ff4 is a rugged team. Anyways if torch goes nova everyone is in trouble. BUu he has to focus to much energy to accomplish this, he might even faint in the process and spidey would'nt give him time to concentrate. I dont see Spiderman being eliminated by the torch.
Originally posted by python99
I still think this is too close too call because Original ff4 have done some extraordinary thing but the new ff4 is a rugged team. Anyways if torch goes nova everyone is in trouble. BUu he has to focus to much energy to accomplish this, he might even faint in the process and spidey would'nt give him time to concentrate. I dont see Spiderman being eliminated by the torch.
Sue puts a bubble over the rest of the FF.
Johnny goes Nova.
Wolverine and Spidey dont are nothing but ashes.
Hulk is in agony. Ben then goes and beats the crap out of him before he can fully heal.
GR is unaffected. Reed and Sue take him down.