Who Actualy is Stronger Venom or Carnage?

Well i dont know soo much about spidey so il ask people who do know much.

Carnage when he had his old symbiote was stronger, his new symbiote....I'm not sure about

cargnage class= 50 tons
brock venom = 11tons
(thats wot the handbooks used to say i personally think
venom=25 tons )

I think it would be more than 11 tonnes

yh i beleive its closer to or equal to 25 tons as he can throw tanks , bulldozers the lot

Carnage has been known to over power both Spidey and Venom at the same time on more than one occasion. I would think that Carnage is stronger than Venom, but Venom has been known to over power Carnage by himself on Carnage's own ground on a few occasions as well. So, it's pretty close, but it has been stated that Carnage is stronger than Venom.

Originally posted by ankur29
cargnage class= 50 tons

I find that hard to believe. I will agree that Carnage is stronger, but his strength level has got to be no more than 11 or 12 tons. 50 is just pushing the limit.

well his bio stated he was class 50 he was stronger than venom and spidey combined

Yeah I read he could lift 50 tonnes as well. It was in a guide to spidey

wikipedai proper bio looks right to me

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnage_%28comics%29

There we go, 50 tonnes

Isn't Spider-Man at 15? So that would mean Brock would have to be at around 20 or so. So that means Carnage would be at about 40 if he supposedly can best both at the same time. However, throughout the Venom/Carnage fights we've seen, Venom knows how to beat C.K.'s ass lol.

Couldn't that all be down to bad writing? or maybe the fact that it would be boring to see venom gettin owned by Carnage all the time. I think it all comes down to Venom just being smarter than Cassady

It happens to often for bad writing and Venom was shown not only to beat Carnage but to overpower him with brute strength and it was before he got an upgrade.
And certanly symbiotes are far stronger than class 11-12.

conisedering a possibilty for spidey's upgrade spidey is 20tons
if brock gets suit back venom will be 25-30tons
carnage if he gets his suit back =50tons

Obviously there has been a few years of bad writing that I have missed out on.

If Carnage's strength is in the 50 ton strength class then he would near to impossible to beat by either Spider-Man and Venom. So, there's got to be some miscommunication going on here.

Carnage, plain and simple. Venom is cooler, but carnage is stronger. (and a cheap ripoff of venom)

thats becasue spider man and venom are higher than they are said to be ......when venom was said to be 11tons he went around having beef with juggeranut........liufting bulldozers and stuff easily

spidey when around supporting caollapsing building so the strength rating the handbook writers are not correct but carngae has shown consistent strength taht can represent the 50 ton class

Originally posted by ankur29
carngae has shown consistent strength taht can represent the 50 ton class

Scans?

They should just do an official update of the whole thing.

Carnage is stronger, the son is always stronger than the child. Toxin would be the strongest.