Originally posted by spiderman/venom
Carnage is way stronger then spider-man and venom combined! I never actually read any of the amazing spidermans but i heard about them and read it some where. Carnage is pretty cool but venom is WAY COOLER 😎 😎 😎 😎
If Carnage is stronger, how does he always lose to Venom and Spidey?
Originally posted by doctorstrongbad
If Carnage is stronger, how does he always lose to Venom and Spidey?
Because of poor writting, thats how. Marvel's writters now adays seem to overlook what has specifically been stated in the comics, and the Carnage being stronger is far from an isolated incident. Marvel tends to overlook alot of stuff.
Originally posted by kiekan
Because of poor writting, thats how. Marvel's writters now adays seem to overlook what has specifically been stated in the comics, and the Carnage being stronger is far from an isolated incident. Marvel tends to overlook alot of stuff.
Originally posted by Sam Zcarnage is stronger but after seeing venom fighting supes and juggernaut i dont know.
Man, Venom kicks his a$$ in 70% of their fights, you can't just blame everything on poor writing. Just because it's been stated in some directory (like 20 years ago) doesn't mean it's true. Lots of things have been stated. I even read that Namor is class 50 somewhere. They just don't uppdate their directories.
And namor is stronger than class 50.
personally i think Carnage is stronger well at least he was orginally throwing both spider-man and venom off of him with ease but take in mind that venom was still recovering from the birthing of carnage but still carnage is stronger the only way venom can beat him is too outsmart him. Speaking of bad writing did you know venom somehow miraculously bested superman in a fight yeah i've seen scans of it on the internet venom was qiite frankly whooping superman which is very bad writing imo.
oh whoops someone already mentioned the superman and venom fight. As for the juggernaught battle venom really got his butt kicked and he was just very durable in that fight. Also venom may actually be stronger then carnage because one of the issues of spiderman venom mentions that the sybiote will increase his strength the stronger he becomes phisically. But now venom is on marc gargan so his strength would be almost doubled with the scorpian super strength and that of the symbiotes strength.
Superman fight is a crossover, and crossovers are never written well. As for Juggernaut fight Venom was only beaten in the 1 fight, in 2 and 3 fights he had an upperhand. Venom had beatten Carnage before with brute strength only, and not by outsmarting him. Actually Carnage was only ONCE showed to be superior to Brock - in his first appearance. Scorpion-Venom sucks. He's weak and not durable. He got batten by a falling wall...
yah good point for the crossover thing. I can see what your saying about juggurnaught thing too but really i don't think juggernaught could have been beaten if the fight lasted longer. I've only read carnages first appearence so i wouldn't know but i plan on getting the maximum carnage series soon. As for scorpian venom I haven't read any comics with him in it but Scorpian was one of my fave villains and so is venom so i figured it would be a good blend but apparently its not. The only reason i was speculating about his strength and durablity was from my prior knowledge of symbiotes
Originally posted by carnageandvenom
yah good point for the crossover thing. I can see what your saying about juggurnaught thing too but really i don't think juggernaught could have been beaten if the fight lasted longer. I've only read carnages first appearence so i wouldn't know but i plan on getting the maximum carnage series soon. As for scorpian venom I haven't read any comics with him in it but Scorpian was one of my fave villains and so is venom so i figured it would be a good blend but apparently its not. The only reason i was speculating about his strength and durablity was from my prior knowledge of symbiotes