Who Actualy is Stronger Venom or Carnage?

Originally posted by Neutro
I think for this to be resolved, we must go back and look at the old school cartoon, where clearly carnage kicked venom and spiderman's ass all over, but spiderman and venom together beat him. So.. Venom vs Carnage in a straight fight, Carnage would win because Venom too emo.

LOL I have that cartoon and even there Venom actually kicked Carnage a$$ twice. Well at first he beat Ironman, warmachine and Spider-man so i don't think you should take that cartoon as your source.

Originally posted by symbiosis
When ever Venom and Carnage fight Venom always wins, but it's not because he's stonger, It's because in any issue when they fight Venom is the hero (or anti-hero) and Carnage is the villain, and the hero always finds a way to win. So Carnage is stronger but will never stand victorious because of what he is and that is a villain!!!!

In Venom and Carnage Venom wasn't a hero...
And his way of winning is usually by brute strength so i don't think one must ignore that only because Venom was a hero.

Okay, the video game "Maximum Carnage" for Super NES. Carnage kicked my ass a lot until I bought a Game Genie. 😛

Originally posted by Neutro
Okay, the video game "Maximum Carnage" for Super NES. Carnage kicked my ass a lot until I bought a Game Genie. 😛

I give up.
He kicked my ass in that game as well 😒

Okay, so it's proven. Carnage can kick Venom's ass unless Venom is super-cheat-code-induced.

Umm... I think i still prefere to go by the cartoon...

Originally posted by Sam Z
I give up.
He kicked my ass in that game as well 😒

I played that game too, but I didnt need any cheats.
The game was not easy but I finished it without cheating.

Originally posted by Arahan
I played that game too, but I didnt need any cheats.
The game was not easy but I finished it without cheating.

I feel even worse now...

yeah but venom kicked Carnages ass in Ultimate Spiderman which is more up to date.

lol true.
But let's get back to comix Venom and Carnage, i believe scans above pretty much prove that Venom was equel to Carnage in strength before and now he became stronger so now it would be fair to assume he is stronger than Carnage.

Originally posted by Sam Z
lol true.
But let's get back to comix Venom and Carnage, i believe scans above pretty much prove that Venom was equel to Carnage in strength before and now he became stronger so now it would be fair to assume he is stronger than Carnage.

When did Venom become stronger? When was his power upgraded?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7221119
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7221121
There.

that art looks great but spiderman and the fantastic four's size look extremely bogus

spidey was never that skinny

Originally posted by ankur29
that art looks great but spiderman and the fantastic four's size look extremely bogus

spidey was never that skinny

They always draw Peter Parker skinny but Spidey much more built.

ok i have the official handbook bios here anyways

venom ...................(from 2004 handbook)

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/4272/venombiopl7.jpg

carnage....................(from 2004 handbook)

http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=carnagepowerabilitiesofficialtd5.png

spidey bio.................

http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spideybio2005fs7.jpg

Well, you see? According to this info even Spider-man is stronger than Venom. And we all know it's not true. Facts remain, Venom before was a match for Carnage and even won majority of their fights and now he got an upgrade. Venom is stronger and respect thread under my signiture pretty much proves it.

i think venom has a nice fat percentage and all, but carnage is red.

then again... carnage is a loser in the cartoon series thing, a complete fool, and venom is a wuss for most of it.

i vote electro, for the worst costume ever.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Well, you see? According to this info even Spider-man is stronger than Venom. And we all know it's not true. Facts remain, Venom before was a match for Carnage and even won majority of their fights and now he got an upgrade. Venom is stronger and respect thread under my signiture pretty much proves it.

well that the spidey that got upgraded thats why , spidey is class 10 in that book

Originally posted by ankur29
well that the spidey that got upgraded thats why , spidey is class 10 in that book

I know Spidey is class 15 now or even more with iron suit but he is still not even close to Venom in strength, not even to original Venom. That bio makes no sense.

venom is actually class70- 80 ton class and he proves to be stronger than carnage in maximum carnage because wen he hits him it blows up and carny is symbiote dies but venom is hardly hurt