Originally posted by Robtard
Brilliant response, I am truly speechless... sigh... Even though it took you long enough to answer it, thank you for doing so.Now my second question? I'll make it easy and rehash it for you. Why did Adam have nipples? If God created him as the first human and the flawless human (before he sinned of course) why did God put nipples on Adam? They serve no purpose on a man besides the possibility of sexual pleasure.
Evolution/Science has reasons that make sense why males have nipples, but I want to know how Creationist rationalize this.
Who cares why Adam has nipples? There are way more important questions that I prefer to answer, I do not have time to answer questions that don't have any real substance or intrinsic value. Does knowing why Adam has nipples make you a better person, father, husband, friend, citizen, neighbor, student, son, worker, and so forth? So why ask trivial questions like that? If that is what this forum has been reduced to then maybe I should move on.
Why does Adam have nipples (shakes head). If I truly had to answer that question I can only conjecture Robtard because the Bible does not reveal every single detail and nuance about life. That is not even the purpose of the Bible. The Bible was given to us to reveal to us how to get back in "right-relationship" with God through His Son Jesus Christ, instruct us how to live, and finally the consummation of all things (the end of the ages). I surmise that man has nipples for a reason regardless of whether I know what God's orginal reason is or not.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Who cares why Adam has nipples? There are way more important questions that I prefer to answer, I do not have time to answer questions that don't have any real substance or intrinsic value. Does knowing why Adam has nipples make you a better person, father, husband, friend, citizen, neighbor, student, son, worker, and so forth? So why ask trivial questions like that? If that is what this forum has been reduced to then maybe I should move on.Why does Adam have nipples (shakes head). If I truly had to answer that question I can only conjecture Robtard because the Bible does not reveal every single detail and nuance about life. That is not even the purpose of the Bible. The Bible was given to us to reveal to us how to get back in "right-relationship" with God through His Son Jesus Christ, instruct us how to live, and finally the consumation of all things (the end of the ages). I surmise that man has nipples for a reason regardless of whether I know what God's orginal reason is or not.
Actually, it and hundreds of other truths that are backed by physical proof contradict Creation... Even if the nipple question is silly.
You're willing to tear apart and dismiss Evolution because every single piece of the puzzle hasn't been found, but when your jigsaw has craters bigger than the moons you just dismiss them as trivial issues. That is being a hypocrite.
Originally posted by Robtard
Actually, it and hundreds of other truths that are backed by physical proof contradict Creation... Even if the nipple question is silly.You're willing to tear apart and dismiss Evolution because every single piece of the puzzle hasn't been found, but when your jigsaw has craters bigger than the moons you just dismiss them as trivial issues. That is being a hypocrite.
Nah, ah, ahhh, I dismiss evolution because it is an outright untruth (lie).
Originally posted by Robtard
Beat me to it Flamboyant... Saying Evolution is little more than a bunch of half-ass guesses is down right intellectually dishonest.
If you guys (and girls) would just quote my actual words we could truncate most of these semantical issues and nip them in the bud. I have never described evolution as being, a bunch of half-ass guesses. A hypothesis yes; untrue yes; a lie yes. None of those terms fit your characterization.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Nah, ah, ahhh, I dismiss evolution because it is an outright untruth (lie).
Yet the abundance of physical proof proves you wrong.
You seem the intelligent albeit closed minded person, so I will assume you are aware of Ockham's razor... Sometimes know as Occam's Razor...
What's more likely?
A) We were all spawned from one man who in turn had a rib removed to make a woman and in turn procreated the entire human race after they sinned and ate an apple, all the while living side by side with each and every single species of animal that every existed on the planet and all this happening in under 6k years. Not to mention that some people think the Devil put the dinosaur bones there as to confuse and mislead us.
or
B) The planet is billions of years old, life started, evolved and changed at slower than a snails pace and we have yet to discover every piece of the puzzle since we area dealing with billions of years.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
If you guys (and girls) would just quote my actual words we could truncate most of these semantical issues and nip them in the bud. I have never described evolution as being, a bunch of half-ass guesses. A hypothesis yes; untrue yes, a lie yes. None of those terms fit your characterizations.
Ok, I take that back if it offended you... But is 'half assed guess' really that far different from "hypothesis yes; untrue yes, a lie yes" There isn't at least a small bit of a similarity? Even a tiny bit?
I did not quote you though, no quatation marks anywhere in what I wrote. So please take back that accusation, I do not "quote" people and use my own wording.
Originally posted by Robtard
Yet the abundance of physical proof proves you wrong.You seem the intelligent albeit closed minded person, so I will assume you are aware of Ockham's razor... Sometimes know as Occam's Razor...
What's more likely?
A) We were all spawned from one man who in turn had a rib removed to make a woman and in turn procreated the entire human race after they sinned and ate an apple, all the while living side by side with each and every single species of animal that every existed on the planet and all this happening in under 6k years. Not to mention that some people think the Devil put the dinosaur bones there as to confuse and mislead us.
or
B) The planet is billions of years old, life started, evolved and changed at slower than a snails pace and we have yet to discover every piece of the puzzle since we area dealing with billions of years.
Bro, I am just plain biased to believe that God is responsible for life and the origin of the universe including everything therein. I will not even lend my ear to any theories about how we got here. That is all there is to it. I will go to my grave satisfied that I made the right choice. But can you? Do you have peace in your heart that if you die right now that you are right and the Bible (not me, don't confuse the Bible with me) is wrong? I do. I have absolute peace that if I die "right" after writing this post that my eternal destiny and future is more secure than Fort Knox, the Pentagon, and Osam Bin Laden's secret hideout. But...can you say that?
I got all my eggs in Jesus' basket. I have bet the farm, the beemer, and everything else I own that Jesus is the ONE. Not the Matrix one, but the True God and eternal life. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no one (excluding nobody) comes to the Father (God in Heaven) EXCEPT through Jesus Christ. Woohoo! Go ahead Jesus, preach!
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
If you guys (and girls) would just quote my actual words we could truncate most of these semantical issues and nip them in the bud. I have never described evolution as being, a bunch of half-ass guesses. A hypothesis yes; untrue yes; a lie yes. None of those terms fit your characterization.
i guess we can forgive your complete ignorance of science because you utterly dismiss it without even listening to its arguments
but there is a vast difference between hypothesis, theory and law in the scientific sense
Originally posted by RobtardA) We were all spawned from one man who in turn had a rib removed to make a woman and in turn procreated the entire human race after they sinned and ate an apple
The problem is that that story is not mean't to be taken literally. In the Bible stories are supposed to help try and explain important concepts.
If people didn't try to intepret it literally people might not give the Bible such a hard time. I still think the Bible has alot of good in it, im not Christian by the way.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Bro, I am just plain biased to believe that God is responsible for life and the origin of the universe including everything therein. I will not even lend my ear to any theories about how we got here. That is all there is to it. I will go to my grave satisfied that I made the right choice. But can you? Do you have peace in your heart that if you die right now that you are right and the Bible (not me, don't confuse the Bible with me) is wrong? I do. I have absolute peace that if I die "right" after writing this post that my eternal destiny and future is more secure than Fort Knox, the Pentagon, and Osam Bin Laden's secret hideout. But...can you say that?I got all my eggs in Jesus' basket. I have bet the farm, the beemer, and everything else I own that Jesus is the ONE. Not the Matrix one, but the True God and eternal life. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no one (excluding nobody) comes to the Father (God in Heaven) EXCEPT through Jesus Christ. Woohoo! Go ahead Jesus, preach!
If you are completely unwilling to listen to the opposing view, then you are not here to debate, you are here to preach and preaching is using the Bible as a bludgeon tool. But to answer your question, because that would be the right thing to do in a debating board.
I'm not even sure a heaven/hell exist let alone if God is keeping tabs on all of us. So I can't say if I believe my 'soul' (if we have a soul) is secure with Jesus. One thing I can rationalize though and this is just my opinion, if there is an Omnipresent being, I doubt we humans who would be less than a speck of dust in comparison to God, could even being to comprehend God, let alone put God in a book.
Now to the Bible, Torah, Qur'an etc.... I'm not denying that they are very well written books and they certainly have a ton of profound knowledge in them, but they were written long ago, in a far less civilized and knowledgeable time, in a time when lightning (which we can scientifically explain now) was seen as an omen from God; so my advice, read the Bible, take what works for you from it but be open to listening to new ideas.