Creation vs Evolution

Started by Robtard221 pages

Originally posted by Alfheim
The problem is that that story is not mean't to be taken literally. In the Bible stories are supposed to help try and explain important concepts.

If people didn't try to intepret it literally people might not give the Bible such a hard time. I still think the Bible has alot of good in it, im not Christian by the way.

I fully agree with you.

Originally posted by Alfheim
The problem is that that story is not mean't to be taken literally. In the Bible stories are supposed to help try and explain important concepts.

If people didn't try to intepret it literally people might not give the Bible such a hard time. I still think the Bible has alot of good in it, im not Christian by the way.

To start, I'm Catholic by birth, but I've lapsed into agnosticism in the past few years. And also, I didn't feel like wading through 13 pages of posts, so forgive me if I repeat anything already said.

When I was younger, I always figured that the story of creation was figurative, because if you read Genesis, it's a quagmire of illogical happenings...but sadly, fundamentalist Christians take the Bible quite literally, and that makes them very dangerous in the public atmosphere, because they compensate for the illogicity with intense vehemence.

My main reason for not believing Creation is that everything is so damn complicated. If God created everything, humans in his own image an all life on earth, why does food rot? If God intended for us to live and preach his will, wouldn't food stay good forever? Why do living things have a digestive system? Why do humans hava four-chambered heart, reptiles have two, and amphibians have three? Why are there fossil fuels? Did god intend for us to have cars and gasoline when we were intelligent enough to have them?

It's questions like these that expose the improbability of Creation. Being an agnostic, I don't deny the existence of a God, but I see it as an observer, one who never fiddled with nature and never spoke to Moses or gave birth to a son. Merely there to watch and listen.

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
yes i know an none use can help that cause we are human but i do find it foolish that one day an fish just grew legs and walked on land.

You are taking the theory of evolution and simplifying it into idiocy. Nothing happened in one day, that is Creationist thinking.

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
yes i know an none use can help that cause we are human but i do find it foolish that one day an fish just grew legs and walked on land.

That would be unbelievable; I am glad that is not how evolution works.

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
yes i know an none use can help that cause we are human but i do find it foolish that one day an fish just grew legs and walked on land.

I wish people would actually learn what evolution/Natural Selection are before they critique them...

You never learned the theory of evolution. 👆

Thats because there is no "theory" of evolution. Evolution is an observed concept. The Theory of Natural selection explains it.

EDIT double

Originally posted by Alliance
Thats because there is no "theory" of evolution. Evolution is an observed concept. The Theory of Natural selection explains it.
Yeah. You're right. Never really thought of it that way. Oh BTW that post wasn't directed at you. It was directed at shalimar_fox. I just forgot to quote it.

I didn't think it was directed at me...but thanks for clarifying.

yea i learned about all that stuff but i still find it foolish

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
yea i learned about all that stuff but i still find it foolish

Then you didn't really pay attention. No one, not even Darwin says "one day a fish just grew legs and walked on land." You are taking Creationist thinking about things just magically happening in one day and applying that logic to evolution.

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
yea i learned about all that stuff but i still find it foolish
Well then your school must suck. 👆

ok when i say one day i didn't mean 24 hours type day,but i did pay attention,all the way from trilobites to homo-sapien.i even kind remember the periods of time.

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
ok when i say one day i didn't mean 24 hours type day,but i did pay attention,all the way from trilobites to homo-sapien.i even kind remember the periods of time.
Then you didn't learn Natural Selection.

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
ok when i say one day i didn't mean 24 hours type day,but i did pay attention,all the way from trilobites to homo-sapien.i even kind remember the periods of time.

Fair enough... But all you learned as said above sounds illogical while God creating man from a mound of dirt, making woman from his rib, eating an apple, the Earth only being 6k years old, so on a so forth sounds logical to you?

Natural Selection
if i'm right
when one group of organisms with traits are more likely to survive

Originally posted by Robtard
Fair enough... But all you learned as said above sounds illogical while God creating man from a mound of dirt, making woman from his rib, eating an apple, the Earth only being 6k years old, so on a so forth sounds logical to you?
yeah i dose to me

i guess that being devoted to religion can mean you dont have to worry about learning...at all

it's a great way to cover up for being lazy and thick

religion is understandable 1000+ years ago when so much of the universe was not understood...but in an age where many of the things which were attributed to religion or the supernatural are easily explained and more and more is being discovered and understood on a daily basis...then why do people still believe

Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
yeah i dose to me

Then how do you explain that Chimpanzees and humans share 98% of the same genes? Were Chimpanzees beta versions of humans?