Creation vs Evolution

Started by Shakyamunison221 pages
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why do they have to urge to reproduce?

Because it feels good.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Macroevolution is not a fact. Yes, I do believe that "things" change over time (people get older). But I am not gullible or naive to believe that one species transforms into another species (that is a downright lie/fairytale).
If enough changes occur in one species over time or the environment changes and they adapt to the changes they will become another species/breed. Much like the Kodiak, Grizzly and Brown Bear which have adapted to different environment but each are different.

Is a bear going to become a duck, no but they can change over time and after enough changes become an entirely new species. No animal changes into something that already exists but to something new.

JIA: You still need to address my question.

As someone who supports SCIENCE and thus sees evolution as a valid explanation for observable phenomena I could also tell you what evidence would not fit with evolutionary theory. For instance, if a species of animal on Earth were found to be reproducing in a way that did not involve genetics, or if a creature that had completely new units other than DNA. Irreducible complexity, were it shown, would be an almost slam dunk case against evolution.

So, I am going to ask you then:

1) What evidence would show you that the space for the universe did not come from God?

2) What evidence would show you that matter does not come from God?

3) What evidence would prove to you that the laws of the universe do not come from God?

4) What evidence would show you that the organization of matter does not originate from God?

5) What evidence would show you that the energy responsible for organizing the matter did not come from God?

6) What evidence would show you that life forming from non-living matter was not the work of God?

7) What evidence would show you that reproduction does not come from God?

8) What evidence would show you that the first sexual organs did not require God?

9) What evidence would show you that the desire to reproduce is not related to God?

10) What evidence would prove to you that variation in species is not the work of God?

11) What evidence would show you that genetic similarities are the result of a common ancestor rather than the work of God?

12) What evidence would show you that the increase in complexity of the genetic code is not the work of God?

13-15) What evidence, for any one of those things you listed, would show you that they are natural rather than God?

Now, I only ask this because you claim that God is more science than evolution. Well, real scientists HAVE TO KNOW TH ANSWER TO THIS. They have to be able to explain why the observable evidence supports their claim and not any other.

Upon more thought, even just an answer for number 11. Really, you don't get to call whatever you believe a science until you do this.

I think the point is there is no evidence against God in anything, which is why real scientists don't deal with the idea.

way to be concise 🙄

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
If enough changes occur in one species over time or the environment changes and they adapt to the changes they will become another species/breed. Much like the Kodiak, Grizzly and Brown Bear which have adapted to different environment but each are different.

Is a bear going to become a duck, no but they can change over time and after enough changes become an entirely new species. No animal changes into something that already exists but to something new.

Prove it! (sorry I just got a little overly enthusiastic).

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Prove it! (sorry I just got a little overly enthusiastic).
Prove what, that a Kodiak, Grizzly and Brown Bear's exist?

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Prove what, that a Kodiak, Grizzly and Brown Bear's exist?

Whats a bear?

Originally posted by inimalist
way to be concise 🙄

Well, why give a 10,000 word dissertation on God when one sentence sums up the whole thing completely and perfectly?

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Prove what, that a Kodiak, Grizzly and Brown Bear's exist?

Prove that god didn't not make those not the way that we do not see them now or in the future? 🤪

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Prove what, that a Kodiak, Grizzly and Brown Bear's exist?

Prove macroevolution.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Prove macroevolution.

Micro or Macro evolution is not good science.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Prove macroevolution.
Well go to Alaska and view them for yourself, read a book on biology and look at their physical characteristics and you see the difference and based on their environments the adaptations that have occurred in the same species. Or do you believe that these 3 different variations of the same species have existed since the dawn of time?

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Well go to Alaska and view them for yourself, read a book on biology and look at their physical characteristics and you see the difference and based on their environments the adaptations that have occurred in the same species. Or do you believe that these 3 different variations of the same species have existed since the dawn of time?

Okay.

scooter

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Micro or Macro evolution is not good science.

Evolution is not science.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Evolution is not science.

You don't even know what evolution is.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Evolution is not science.

was it that you ignored the stuff I was posting about science?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Okay.

scooter

Again ignoring what you asked for.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You don't even know what evolution is.

Using my most articulate, eloquent speech and grammar: I know what it ain't.

Originally posted by inimalist
was it that you ignored the stuff I was posting about science?

I did see anything for me to read inimalist.