JesusIsAlive, I have a question for you. Why do you use long lists of scriptural passages to argue with people that don't share your belief that the Bible is a privileged text? It pretty much precludes the possibility of you convincing anyone other than persons who already agree with you. I'm asking you this because I'm not sure if you understand how completely off-putting this Bible tract style of argument is. The tone comes across as uncharitable and sanctimonious. If you realise this already, why are you posting? To convert people or to beat people down?
I say this as someone who treats the Bible as an inspired document.
Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
JesusIsAlive, I have a question for you. Why do you use long lists of scriptural passages to argue with people that don't share your belief that the Bible is a privileged text? It pretty much precludes the possibility of you convincing anyone other than persons who already agree with you. I'm asking you this because I'm not sure if you understand how completely off-putting this Bible tract style of argument is. The tone comes across as uncharitable and sanctimonious. If you realise this already, why are you posting? To convert people or to beat people down?I say this as someone who treats the Bible as an inspired document.
I think his last post was well done, it stated what he believed and he quoted the verses that supported his belief. Some of his posts in the past were not well done imo, but the last one was very well written imo.
edit: Oops, it was a post in another thread, let me get the quote.
Here it is
[i]Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Here are my Scriptures that I believe refute that God used the hypothesis of evolution to create life. You can continue to discount them all you want. But you have yet to provide any Scriptures yourself in support that God used evolution to create life.
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God "speaks" things into existence, this is his modus operandi, not the hypothesis of evolution.
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[B]I believe that this Scripture refutes the hypothesis of evolution. [/B]
I edited out the scriptural quotes, he was very well written and spoke with respect imo.[/i]
Originally posted by Regret
I think his last post was well done, it stated what he believed and he quoted the verses that supported his belief. Some of his posts in the past were not well done imo, but the last one was very well written imo.edit: Oops, it was a post in another thread, let me get the quote.
Here it is
I edited out the scriptural quotes, he was very well written and spoke with respect imo.
I agree. That's not bad. But there have been some really bad ones.
BTW, I didn't post what I posted to be snarky, JesusIsAlive. I just think less scripture quoting and more rational argument is your best bet in actually talking to people that don't share your beliefs.
Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
I agree. That's not bad. But there have been some really bad ones.BTW, I didn't post what I posted to be snarky, JesusIsAlive. I just think less scripture quoting and more rational argument is your best bet in actually talking to people that don't share your beliefs.
I hear you but I am what I am, and I do what I do.
Originally posted by ~Flamboyant~
Evolution is NOT a hypothesis. It is a theory that is widely accepted as a law. JIA just wondering, did you ever learn evolution in school?
Beat me to it Flamboyant... Saying Evolution is little more than a bunch of half-ass guesses is down right intellectually dishonest.
Hypothesis: Implies insufficient evidence to provide more than a tentative explanation
Theory: Implies a greater range of evidence and greater likelihood of truth
Law: Implies a statement of order and relation in nature that has been found to be invariable under the same conditions
Now considering those three principles, what would Biblical Creation fall under considering there is absolutely no way to prove God exist let alone Adam & Eve, Garden Of Eden, Great Flood etc.? (JesusIsAlive)
Originally posted by ~Flamboyant~
Evolution is NOT a hypothesis. It is a theory that is widely accepted as a law. JIA just wondering, did you ever learn evolution in school?
Got to correct you there, Evolution is NOT widely accepted as a law. It is considered a solid theory by most anyone who has done any research into it. It was past the hypothesis stage before Darwin ever published his book.
those definitions are a little broad and non-specific.
A hypothesis is an educated guess based on previous information.
A scientific Theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural phenomena.
Law is well...you get the picture. No matter what the circumstances, its always true.
Originally posted by docb77
Got to correct you there, Evolution is NOT widely accepted as a law. It is considered a solid theory by most anyone who has done any research into it. It was past the hypothesis stage before Darwin ever published his book.
Correct, but it is also perhaps the most proven Theory in science. Darwin did a very good job.
Originally posted by Alliance
those definitions are a little broad and non-specific.A hypothesis is an educated guess based on previous information.
A scientific Theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural phenomena.
Law is well...you get the picture. No matter what the circumstances, its always true.
Even though I knew what the definitions of the three were, I decided to forgo my own wording and copy/pasted from Merriam-Webster's dictionary. You may want to argue with them; but I think either of those work well for the question posed. Though I doubt I'll get an honest answer.
Originally posted by Alliance
Correct, but it is also perhaps the most proven Theory in science. Darwin did a very good job.
I'm trying to think of what other theories are out there that haven't progressed to law yet. relativity? Chaos theory? They're all in physics! Why'd I have to go into biology?
Originally posted by ~Flamboyant~
Evolution is NOT a hypothesis. It is a theory that is widely accepted as a law. JIA just wondering, did you ever learn evolution in school?
Yes but to me this evolution business is absurd, asinine, and foolish. That is why I refer to it as a hypothesis. Flam. did you learn Creationism in school?