Creation vs Evolution

Originally posted by Nellinator
I agree.

I'm glad you've changed your opinons.

On the presence of a big picture, people are uncomfortable with not having all the answers, thats the religion. Society needs to learn that its ok NOT to know things. There is no "why'". "Why" is not important.

The "big picture" of science is put together by men. It transcends fact. It is not trustworthy. And from this we have seen the birth of this abomination of anti-evolution.

Originally posted by BigRed
I don't see anything remotely contradictory. Nonetheless, present your other opinions.

"the "God" ideal makes more sense"

"I believe in evolution."

remotely contradictory?

And as far as superiority complexes, if you quote a qross misunderstanding of evolution that would be easily negated by any knowledge of the Theory, you bet I will think I have a superior knowledge of evolution than you do.

Originally posted by Alliance
I'm glad you've changed your opinons.

On the presence of a big picture, people are uncomfortable with not having all the answers, thats the religion. Society needs to learn that its ok NOT to know things. There is no "why'". "Why" is not important.

The "big picture" of science is put together by men. It transcends fact. It is not trustworthy. And from this we have seen the birth of this abomination of anti-evolution.

"the "God" ideal makes more sense"

"I believe in evolution."

remotely contradictory?

And as far as superiority complexes, if you quote a qross misunderstanding of evolution that would be easily negated by any knowledge of the Theory, you bet I will think I have a superior knowledge of evolution than you do.

They are not necessarily contradictory as many believe in both. He/she could be considering abiogenesis less likely than God as many do and believing that evolution was the method of creation.

"I have been trying to explain how they are related."
" So no, one cannot connect them [evolution and abiogenesis], period." - Adam PoE
"I agree."

"the complete picture is of importance."
"I don't think we do need it [the complete picture]."

Thats seems like two changed opinions. And you brought up macroevolution.

Evolution is a discrete packet. Its a Theory, but it doens't try to be anyhting more than fact allows it two, which is in stark contrast to your synthesis of evolution and abiogenesis.

Originally posted by Alliance
I'm glad you've changed your opinons.

On the presence of a big picture, people are uncomfortable with not having all the answers, thats the religion. Society needs to learn that its ok NOT to know things. There is no "why'". "Why" is not important.

The "big picture" of science is put together by men. It transcends fact. It is not trustworthy. And from this we have seen the birth of this abomination of anti-evolution.

"the "God" ideal makes more sense"

"I believe in evolution."

remotely contradictory?

And as far as superiority complexes, if you quote a qross misunderstanding of evolution that would be easily negated by any knowledge of the Theory, you bet I will think I have a superior knowledge of evolution than you do.

Firstly as I said, I do not believe I need to conform to any religion to just believe in a "God".

I also do not believe that JUST because I believe that evolution is indeed possible, doesn't mean that I then have to discount God and vise versa (IE: Just because I believe in God, doesn't mean I just discount evolution).

I take both into account and feel one makes more sense then the other.

I was agreeing to Lord Urizen's post 😮
Adam got his post in between without me seeing. I still believe they can be related and Adam's assumption of how is not the way I intended it as it can be related from either side of the argument.
I think I already explained that I was discussing one side of an argument which was not my own. Something being of importance (I should have specified that there are definite limitations to its importance) does not mean that we need it.
Theories do have implications which is what I am discussing, so yes they are more than fact.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
What assumption would that be?

"What I've found troublesome about radiocarbon dating is that, unless I am mistaken (as I am prone to be, considering that my love of dinosaurs is in anatomy and physiology rather than history), it is based on the assumptions of scientists of the level of carbon-14 in the organism's system."

Switch out "carbon-14" for the appropriate element.

For whomever mentioned it earlier:

"Proving" young-Earth creationism relies on demonstrating that the Earth is only around 6,000 years old (as well as proving that the Earth isn't billions of years old), pointing out the flaws with the current model of evolution, showing evidence for events outlined in the Bible (especially the Flood), etc.

Just to clear things up more.

Obviously, evolution can't be disputed, it is evident in life.

I don't dispute it. I do however, dispute the Big Bang theory.

I do in fact dispute things associated with God.

But as I said, I feel more things point to a "creator" than science being the end all be all.

is there anything you don't dispute?

is there anythign Red has a concrete opinon on?

edit.

Originally posted by Alliance
is there anythign Red has a concrete opinon on?

Let me rephrase...is there anything you don't make contradictory statements about?

Originally posted by BigRed
To me, life is too complex to have a concrete opinion on it.

are you sure about that?

lolz...over-reaching statements.

Nice catch.

Too many factors to take into consider on both sides of it if you ask me.

And either way, God, no God, it's still an astonishing thought to me.

Life is full of contradictions and I'm sure I've said some.

Originally posted by BigRed
Life is full of contradictions and I'm sure I've said some.

you've said many

please try to choose a side for the length of one post

Post more porn

edit.

Somebody point out my contraditions for me...

I don't really think I've said any.

Granted, I don't have a concrete opinon on LIFE, it's origin, meaning, death, etc doesn't mean I've been contradictory. And I apologize for not having an opinion that is concrete on something to me that is so complex.

Nonetheless, please point out the contradictions so we can clear this up.