Creation vs Evolution

Started by TRH221 pages

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Thundar I hope even you can understand this concept.

I can see how evolution functions. I have seen mountains of evidence that it is true.

I have not seen evidence that says God created the world.

In my opinion I have a better reason the believe in evolution than in creation.

My point as well

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Thundar I hope even you can understand this concept.

I can see how evolution functions. I have seen mountains of evidence that it is true.

I have not seen evidence that says God created the world.

In my opinion I have a better reason the believe in evolution than in creation.

In my opinion..oh shucks forget it. I'm just glad you finally admitted TOE was just an opinion. We're finally getting somewhere. We both have opinions, and we both believe we have "evidence" supporting our opinions, but unfortunately, only one of our opinions will prove to be the correct one in the end...my friend..😉

Originally posted by Thundar
So once again, we really only have two premises.

The argument that the universe was either created by an intelligent being, or through random processes comitts the logic fallacy of False Dichotomy as there exists a myriad of other possibilities.

Originally posted by Thundar
Either the universe was created by a divine force with a purpose in mind, or it was done so by a random force without one.

I tend to think the former is a much more logical than the latter..but that's just me, and to tell you the truth, I've always been known to be a bit on the crazy side..😆

The argument that the universe was created solely through random processes comitts the logic fallacy of Straw Man as the theory in question does not propose that the universe was created through random processes alone, but through a combination of random processes and the laws of physics.

Originally posted by Thundar
In my opinion..oh shucks forget it. I'm just glad you finally admitted TOE was just an opinion. We're finally getting somewhere. We both have opinions, and we both believe we have "evidence" supporting our opinions, but unfortunately, only one of our opinions will prove to be the correct one in the end...my friend..😉

I didn't say evolution was an opinion.

I have yet to see your evidence, please present it in a simple manner.

The problem with your final statement is that it is impossible to completely prove either one.

Originally posted by Thundar
In my opinion..oh shucks forget it. I'm just glad you finally admitted TOE was just an opinion. We're finally getting somewhere. We both have opinions, and we both believe we have "evidence" supporting our opinions, but unfortunately, only one of our opinions will prove to be the correct one in the end...my friend..😉
You frequently ignore me,are you scared because I know the bible better than you?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I didn't say evolution was an opinion.

You alluded to your interpretation of it as being one.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I have yet to see your evidence, please present it in a simple manner.

Sure I have. As have many others. We just both assume the "evidence" supports different conclusions.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The problem with your final statement is that it is impossible to completely prove either one.

Prove the above statement to be true.

Originally posted by TRH
You frequently ignore me,are you scared because I know the bible better than you?

I generally provide little response, to those who have little to say...my friend..😉

Originally posted by Thundar
...I generally provide little response, to those who have little to say...my friend..😉

To say that his words are of little value and then call him friend is a lie. Last I checked, it was a sin to lie. To say one thing and then act another way is acting a lie. If it is in your heart, you have already done the sin.

Originally posted by Thundar
You alluded to your interpretation of it as being one.

Sure I have. As have many others. We just both assume the "evidence" supports different conclusions.

Prove the above statement to be true.

I generally provide little response, to those who have little to say...my friend..😉

I have a lot to say comrade,but you never respond

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
To say that his words are of little value and then call him friend is a lie. Last I checked, it was a sin to lie. To say one thing and then act another way is acting a lie. If it is in your heart, you have already done the sin.

Only if the intention of my heart was to make him really think he was my friend. That being said, TRH, I truly apologize if you misunderstood what I meant by friend, it should be taken as sarcasm when directed towards one such as yourself.

Please be informed that when I call either you, Symmetric, Shaky or others of similar minded dogmatic rationale(i.e., God does not exist, something created nothing, Jesus was a man, etc) friends, I'm generally doing so sarcastically, and mean the opposite of what I say. That being stated..I hope this has now become very clear to you, Shaky, and others. Again, I truly apologize to both you and Shaky if there was any confusion...my friends..😉

Perhaps now we can get back to the thread topic.

At least you know how to apologise........that is most different from most.

Originally posted by TRH
I have a lot to say comrade,but you never respond
You could just say it and see what happens.

Originally posted by Alliance
Majority or not, they can base thier opinoins in Chrsitian mythology and history, just like Chirstiand did with blacks and homosexuals. They are not representative of a current opinon, but they are representeative of a historical trend. There comes a point where history repeats itself so many times that causes one to wonder whether or not this aspect of Chirstianity fails.

So far, this doesn't even matter. Not one bit. What AngryManatee said was incorrect, and we can stop debating this because it's hardly relevant to the discussion at hand.
It may not be, but my point was that observational evidence is very differnt from faith. Hypothesis is very different from faith. People can let speculation run wild...thats incorrect.

Okay. And my point was, chemicals + moon + time = DNA requires a good deal of faith.

Originally posted by thunder
Only if the intention of my heart was to make him really think he was my friend. That being said, TRH, I truly apologize if you misunderstood what I meant by friend, it should be taken as sarcasm when directed towards one such as yourself.

Please be informed that when I call either you, Symmetric, Shaky or others of similar minded dogmatic rationale(i.e., God does not exist, something created nothing, Jesus was a man, etc) friends, I'm generally doing so sarcastically, and mean the opposite of what I say. That being stated..I hope this has now become very clear to you, Shaky, and others. Again, I truly apologize to both you and Shaky if there was any confusion...my friends..😉

Perhaps now we can get back to the thread topic.

Christians are meant to spread their gospel not to ridicule others,I mean WTF did you just get back from the southern Baptist convention,thunder in reality you are just a vigilante trying to force others to Christianity by being sarcastic and spiting out random bible verses which meanings you can not even comprehend....sad really

Originally posted by Thundar
Only if the intention of my heart was to make him really think he was my friend. That being said, TRH, I truly apologize if you misunderstood what I meant by friend, it should be taken as sarcasm when directed towards one such as yourself.

Please be informed that when I call either you, Symmetric, Shaky or others of similar minded dogmatic rationale(i.e., God does not exist, something created nothing, Jesus was a man, etc) friends, I'm generally doing so sarcastically, and mean the opposite of what I say. That being stated..I hope this has now become very clear to you, Shaky, and others. Again, I truly apologize to both you and Shaky if there was any confusion...my friends..😉

Perhaps now we can get back to the thread topic.

No. There is no use in talking to you. You are now on my ignore list. No offence taken, you are just a waist of my time.

Originally posted by Nellinator
You could just say it and see what happens.
I might sick jesus on me

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No. There is no use in talking to you. You are now on my ignore list. No offence taken, you are just a waist of my time.
am I on there...am I a waste of time

Originally posted by FeceMan
Okay. And my point was, chemicals + moon + time = DNA requires a good deal of faith.

not even faith, it only requires a mental absence.

Originally posted by TRH
am I on there...am I a waste of time

No, you are not a waist of time. If I said something that made you believe that, I am sorry. There just comes a time when one stops talking to a wall. That wall is thundar, not you.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No, you are not a waist of time. If I said something that made you believe that, I am sorry. There just comes a time when one stops talking to a wall. That wall is thundar, not you.
No I am just insecure

Originally posted by TRH
No I am just insecure

Don't be... 😉 I have many friends that I agree with and disagree with.